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Has an ostensibly major football program ever been cucked as hard as UW is right now?

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  • CaptainPJ
    CaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986

    Part of the problem

    Cool. Thanks for letting me know.
    Unfortunate reality
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    pawz said:

    Canadawg said:

    Canadawg said:

    Hey @YellowSnow I generally respect you but you are being a pansy about this situation.

    The health organization recommendation was to lower the quarantine time to 7 days and UW decided to stay at 14. You guys think Ohio state is going to keep guys out for 21 days if it affects their playoffs? Nah it'll get changed

    I’m shocked that Ohio State football has more clout than UW. I mean absolutely shocked.
    Come watch Yella willfully disregard the poont in every thread.

    The University of Washington is one of the top 20 universities in the world.

    openyofuckineyes.gif

    Even Preston knows that means they can do what they want when they want it.

    The University of Washington doesn't want it.

    Sadly the only poont that matters. Bill Gerberdink has won the war.

    #RIPUWFOOTBALL

    TPIO


    Football doesn’t drive the ship at the University of Washington. We've known this since 1993. Gerberding did win the war.

    You guysm keep making the claim - without evidence - the Jenn and Jimmy willfully gave away an opportunity to play in the CCG. Jimmy has said they we had no OL based on cases and contact tracing rules.

    A large reason for the University being considered a Top 20 University in the world is the medical school, which for better or worse has been front page news during Covid. What was the role of the University President and our University's Docs in this outcome with the CCG? I don't see this being discussed much here. But it seems plausible to me that Cohen and Lake truly were powerless to change things.

    No matter how much we all love Husky football we are never going to be in a position like Alabama, Ohio State, etc, whereby football gets to dictate terms to the University. And this especially true in an extraordinary set of circumstances like Covid where the regional politics are so unfavorable towards pandemic football.



    That's my operating assumption. Noted Duck Honk.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    Canadawg said:

    Canadawg said:

    Hey @YellowSnow I generally respect you but you are being a pansy about this situation.

    The health organization recommendation was to lower the quarantine time to 7 days and UW decided to stay at 14. You guys think Ohio state is going to keep guys out for 21 days if it affects their playoffs? Nah it'll get changed

    I’m shocked that Ohio State football has more clout than UW. I mean absolutely shocked.
    Come watch Yella willfully disregard the poont in every thread.

    The University of Washington is one of the top 20 universities in the world.

    openyofuckineyes.gif

    Even Preston knows that means they can do what they want when they want it.

    The University of Washington doesn't want it.

    Sadly the only poont that matters. Bill Gerberdink has won the war.

    #RIPUWFOOTBALL

    TPIO


    But, in fairness to the point Yella's making, it's not a top end world research institution because of the athletic department. In terms of the clout that Washington has in the west, much less nationally, in sports, is a different matter. We? saw that in the 90s when it was our? conference that fucked the program harder than anybody.

    The things that make UW well known are mostly in its medical/health sciences and computer science fields, with a smattering of top programs in the school of arts and sciences. Those people don't give a fuck about football and sports. Those are the people who hold the school's credentials to which you refer.

    Like he says, it's not Alabama, it's not Buck, it's not LSU, it's not Clemson. At those schools you can expect the AD to lay the lumber when he needs to. At Bama and Clemson the fucking coach can do it on his own.

    Not only does Washington's program not have that, I would dare say not a single school in the conference, not even Oregon, has an AD that can slap its dick in the face of the university brass. It's not like that out west.
    Don James in 1993 doesn’t happen at Buck, Bammer, LSU, etc. Nothing has changed with us. The University (and the conference for that matter) still tells our? football team what to do. I wish it were different, but it’s not.

    In spite of all these handicaps, the bar for success remains winning the Pac 1/3 years and winning some NY6 bowls.
  • CaptainPJ
    CaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986

    Part of the problem

    Cool. Thanks for letting me know.
    Unfortunate reality

    pawz said:

    Canadawg said:

    Canadawg said:

    Hey @YellowSnow I generally respect you but you are being a pansy about this situation.

    The health organization recommendation was to lower the quarantine time to 7 days and UW decided to stay at 14. You guys think Ohio state is going to keep guys out for 21 days if it affects their playoffs? Nah it'll get changed

    I’m shocked that Ohio State football has more clout than UW. I mean absolutely shocked.
    Come watch Yella willfully disregard the poont in every thread.

    The University of Washington is one of the top 20 universities in the world.

    openyofuckineyes.gif

    Even Preston knows that means they can do what they want when they want it.

    The University of Washington doesn't want it.

    Sadly the only poont that matters. Bill Gerberdink has won the war.

    #RIPUWFOOTBALL

    TPIO


    But, in fairness to the point Yella's making, it's not a top end world research institution because of the athletic department. In terms of the clout that Washington has in the west, much less nationally, in sports, is a different matter. We? saw that in the 90s when it was our? conference that fucked the program harder than anybody.

    The things that make UW well known are mostly in its medical/health sciences and computer science fields, with a smattering of top programs in the school of arts and sciences. Those people don't give a fuck about football and sports. Those are the people who hold the school's credentials to which you refer.

    Like he says, it's not Alabama, it's not Buck, it's not LSU, it's not Clemson. At those schools you can expect the AD to lay the lumber when he needs to. At Bama and Clemson the fucking coach can do it on his own.

    Not only does Washington's program not have that, I would dare say not a single school in the conference, not even Oregon, has an AD that can slap its dick in the face of the university brass. It's not like that out west.
    As a former athlete that had to deal with the Science Prof’s intolerance of trying to achieve a balanced schedule, I can attest this is 100% true.

    Ask Brock Huard
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    Why would UW change when you throw money at them for being losers

    Jenn loves this thread

    Look they make all my excuses for me and don't expect shit

    Send them the fundraising letter bud

    When you say "bud", do you mean that in an endearing way, like you me and @dflea are Black Hills League buds?

    Or do you mean it sarcastically?
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,299
    Canadawg said:

    Canadawg said:

    Hey @YellowSnow I generally respect you but you are being a pansy about this situation.

    The health organization recommendation was to lower the quarantine time to 7 days and UW decided to stay at 14. You guys think Ohio state is going to keep guys out for 21 days if it affects their playoffs? Nah it'll get changed

  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Honestly though....since I think we can all agree that sportsmanship and the fight against injustice are the real wins, UW had a great season. I for one, am proud.
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,299
    Yella its time for a perspective walk

    We were in the playoff FOUR YEARS AGO

    We don't even need to talk about the 90s anymore because it was JUST proven what UW can be on the field and no matter how much you want to whine it doesn't take that away. They did it 2016 regardless of any "upper campus issues"

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    Canadawg said:

    Yella its time for a perspective walk

    We were in the playoff FOUR YEARS AGO

    We don't even need to talk about the 90s anymore because it was JUST proven what UW can be on the field and no matter how much you want to whine it doesn't take that away. They did it 2016 regardless of any "upper campus issues"

    Ok hockey mom, thanks for the advice. Where have I ever said that UW shouldn’t annually be in the hunt for the CFP? That should be the goal every year. Judge Jenn and Jimmy based on the results on the field in 2021.

    All I’m saying is the UW’s administration doesn’t care about doing what ever it takes to win at football, which is a handicap Bammer or Buckeye doesn’t face.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    edited December 2020
    dnc said:

    Lots of reasonable perspective in this thread.

    Somehow I don’t think mi amigo creep wood be so forgiving and understanding if Miami pulled this shit.

    Feels like I’m at Dawgman.

    Fuck expectations.

    20 years ago, you'd have a point.

    Today? I just want to play Virginia and North Carolina and not worry about the outcome.

    Expectations have been markedly adjusted. It's been 18 years. At some point, I can't worry about it anymore.

    PS: I did re-watch the 1989 Miami Notre Dame tilt the other day. I needed a fix. When I get real desperate, I'll look for 1985 Notre Dame, where the humiliation was next level. Or 1990 Texas, one of my all-tim favorites. So I guess I still care a little.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter

    Gave up reading this thread after the first 50 posts saying the same stuff over and over.

    Here's the deal. Anyone expecting UW to push back hard, go against the conference publicly, or try any other means of getting to play in the CCG or keep Oregon out has either been away from Seattle too long, is in denial about what Seattle has become and who the people are who inhabit the city, or never lived here in the first place.

    If your expectations and demands are tied in to any kind of thought that mirrors the SEC you should quit following UW now and save the remaining years of your life for some other kind of misery. It's over and not changing back.

    Someone rightly pointed out that one year after winning a National Championship the school went out of its way to toss Don James under the bus. The AD does not have to live up to a championship standard because the regents and school president don't give a shit about football, and there is no well-heeled alumn out there who will put pressure on the school ala Uncle Phil - sorry @sonics1993, your $500k isn't big dick money. As long as the AD is making a profit that's good enough for them. UW are the Mariners of CFB.

    This poast deserves mor chins. Well done.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    edited December 2020
    dnc said:

    Lots of reasonable perspective in this thread.

    Somehow I don’t think mi amigo creep wood be so forgiving and understanding if Miami pulled this shit.

    Feels like I’m at Dawgman.

    Fuck expectations.

    Look sermon seeker, we have the same exact expectations for the on the field product. Jimmy has to beat Oregon next year AND win the Pac in 2021 or 22 or he should be shit canned. The talent is already here.

    But where I disagree with you is how FUBAR things were for Jenn / Jimmy once the OL got vid. We should have known better and told the kids no fornicating until TSIO.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,226 Standard Supporter
    Jimmy ain’t beating Oregon next year and he certainly ain’t winning the conference. Maybe year 3 or 4.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    thechatch said:

    Jimmy ain’t beating Oregon next year and he certainly ain’t winning the conference. Maybe year 3 or 4.

    Well see. But he’s gotta win the Pac by year 3. Any decent to great coach we’ve had has won big by year 3. The sucky ones did not.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,226 Standard Supporter
    Correct. A good coach at a major program wins the league by the end of his third year.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,387
    Seems like people just want to punch their own nuts for the fun of it.

    YOUR Pac-12 North Champions are going to very good next year and UW will be one of the top 2 or 3 teams in the conference with a bleached anus full of starters coming back on both sides of the ball.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,214 Standard Supporter
    edited December 2020

    Gave up reading this thread after the first 50 posts saying the same stuff over and over.

    Here's the deal. Anyone expecting UW to push back hard, go against the conference publicly, or try any other means of getting to play in the CCG or keep Oregon out has either been away from Seattle too long, is in denial about what Seattle has become and who the people are who inhabit the city, or never lived here in the first place.

    If your expectations and demands are tied in to any kind of thought that mirrors the SEC you should quit following UW now and save the remaining years of your life for some other kind of misery. It's over and not changing back.

    Someone rightly pointed out that one year after winning a National Championship the school went out of its way to toss Don James under the bus. The AD does not have to live up to a championship standard because the regents and school president don't give a shit about football, and there is no well-heeled alumn out there who will put pressure on the school ala Uncle Phil - sorry @sonics1993, your $500k isn't big dick money. As long as the AD is making a profit that's good enough for them. UW are the Mariners of CFB.

    UW football: can’t live with em. Can’t live with out em.

    Why would UW change when you throw money at them for being losers

    Jenn loves this thread

    Look they make all my excuses for me and don't expect shit

    Send them the fundraising letter bud

    Anybody still following this team and spending money on them, that's their problem. My point is there is no reason to watch the team anymore and anyone clinging to hope is wasting their time. Go take an online class at an SEC school so you can root for a new squad.

    Edit: Also, I think the playoff model has added to this because it's not even fun to watch a 9 - 3 team anymore. One loss in the PAC, or two if you're in another conference, and TSIO. Some people are happy to with the Northwest Championship. Bless them and their retardation.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    HFNY said:

    Seems like people just want to punch their own nuts for the fun of it.

    YOUR Pac-12 North Champions are going to very good next year and UW will be one of the top 2 or 3 teams in the conference with a bleached anus full of starters coming back on both sides of the ball.

    2020 is a real nut cracker.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,214 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Lots of reasonable perspective in this thread.

    Somehow I don’t think mi amigo creep wood be so forgiving and understanding if Miami pulled this shit.

    Feels like I’m at Dawgman.

    Fuck expectations.

    Sadly, I think your expectations of UW are misplaced at this point. I mean, you can have them and I think it's reasonable to say UW has the resources, etc that they should compete on a national level. Many, if not all, of the pieces are there for UW to be a national player except for the people running the show. Unfortunately, that's the most important part and they aren't going to willingly put themselves out of jobs.
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,275 Standard Supporter
    HFNY said:

    Seems like people just want to punch their own nuts for the fun of it.

    YOUR Pac-12 North Champions are going to very good next year and UW will be one of the top 2 or 3 teams in the conference with a bleached anus full of starters coming back on both sides of the ball.

    Word. The real Pac-12 norf champs played zero road games and won a grand total of exactly 1 division game.