Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.
Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.
I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.
I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
Matches the expectations of the Seattle scarve-wearing hipsters who watch that cesspool of a team.
Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.
I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
Matches the expectations of the Seattle scarve-wearing hipsters who watch that cesspool of a team.
it doesn't look like they're going to make any more moves. So the lineup is probably going to be 1. Miller SS 2. Seager 3B 3. Cano 2B 4. Hart DH decent 1-2-3-4 then the fucking dreckfest begins 5. Morrison LF 6. Smoak 1B (this loser should've been gone 2 years ago) 7. Zunino C 8. Ackley CF 9. Romero RF
SP: Hernandez Iwakuma Walker Paxton #5 will be the only move they make Rotation isn't horrible
Bullpen is awful, not one player in the pen isn't making limited salary, could've easily signed a Downs, or a Boone Logan, or a Balfour for barely over 5 million.
Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.
I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
Exactly. They've hyped rally fries and kiddie nonsense for a long time, probably getting back to the late 90s, but back then they were actually winning and making the playoffs. At this pt. even some of the Marineroogs? can see they only care about profit. I fell for the b******* in the 2009-2010 offseason. They were coming off of a winning year and the FA acquisitions were supposed to make them a 90 won team. Then they bombed in April. Anyone who falls for their smokescreen deserves to pay for 10 dollar beers and listen to Fleenor for the rest of their life
Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.
I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
Exactly. They've hyped rally fries and kiddie nonsense for a long time, probably getting back to the late 90s, but back then they were actually winning and making the playoffs. At this pt. even some of the Marineroogs? can see they only care about profit. I fell for the b******* in the 2009-2010 offseason. They were coming off of a winning year and the FA acquisitions were supposed to make them a 90 won team. Then they bombed in April. Anyone who falls for their smokescreen deserves to pay for 10 dollar beers and listen to Fleenor for the rest of their life
I thought they had reached an alltime low but I saw the other day they're doing Macklemore bobble head night. I'm a baseball fan, it was my first passion as a kid when it came to sports. I try to support them but they make it really tough
Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.
I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
Exactly. They've hyped rally fries and kiddie nonsense for a long time, probably getting back to the late 90s, but back then they were actually winning and making the playoffs. At this pt. even some of the Marineroogs? can see they only care about profit. I fell for the b******* in the 2009-2010 offseason. They were coming off of a winning year and the FA acquisitions were supposed to make them a 90 won team. Then they bombed in April. Anyone who falls for their smokescreen deserves to pay for 10 dollar beers and listen to Fleenor for the rest of their life
I thought they had reached an alltime low but I saw the other day they're doing Macklemore bobble head night. I'm a baseball fan, it was my first passion as a kid when it came to sports. I try to support them but they make it really tough
it doesn't look like they're going to make any more moves. So the lineup is probably going to be 1. Miller SS 2. Seager 3B 3. Cano 2B 4. Hart DH decent 1-2-3-4 then the fucking dreckfest begins 5. Morrison LF 6. Smoak 1B (this loser should've been gone 2 years ago) 7. Zunino C 8. Ackley CF 9. Romero RF
SP: Hernandez Iwakuma Walker Paxton #5 will be the only move they make Rotation isn't horrible
Bullpen is awful, not one player in the pen isn't making limited salary, could've easily signed a Downs, or a Boone Logan, or a Balfour for barely over 5 million.
it doesn't look like they're going to make any more moves. So the lineup is probably going to be 1. Miller SS 2. Seager 3B 3. Cano 2B 4. Hart DH decent 1-2-3-4 then the fucking dreckfest begins 5. Morrison LF 6. Smoak 1B (this loser should've been gone 2 years ago) 7. Zunino C 8. Ackley CF 9. Romero RF
SP: Hernandez Iwakuma Walker Paxton #5 will be the only move they make Rotation isn't horrible
Bullpen is awful, not one player in the pen isn't making limited salary, could've easily signed a Downs, or a Boone Logan, or a Balfour for barely over 5 million.
1) It's popular to rip on Bavasi's signings of Sexson and Beltre. Sexson was fine for his first 2 years. Beltre is a potential future HOFer depending on how the rest of his career plays out. Many made Beltre the poster child for Mariner failures instead of realizing that there wasn't anything around him and as a result he pressed trying to do too much. We asked him to hit 3rd and 4th when he's a 5th or 6th hitter.
2) I like the moves to get Hart and Morrison this offseason. Problem is that you are foolish to have expectations for them without solid backup plans given their injury histories. We don't have backup plans. Smoak isn't part of the solution.
3) I have a feeling that Ackley will have a breakout year this year.
4) They really need to move Nick Franklin into something useful.
5) Other than the fact that with Walker and Paxton in the rotation you are going to watch their innings, the rotation is looking to be a solid strength that should keep you in games (particularly if they would invest in going after a solid #3 that takes the pressure off of Walker and Paxton ... but that would be fucking smart and not FS
6) In today's game of baseball, you are a fucking idiot as a GM if you don't invest in a solid bullpen ... it's often the difference between good teams and bad teams.
franklin will probably be moved before the season begins, I just can't see a stop for him. Ackley could break out, but he just isn't an OFer.
There is not one OF out of Gutierrez, Saunders, Morrison, Hart, Ackley, and Almonte that can start on a playoff caliber team, not one.
The bullpen is garbage, I repeat they are paying minimum salary to every single member, look at what having a good bullpen did for the pirates last year.
Jack Z has been advertised as some scouting genius, but the only draft pick that has actually proved he can produce at a ML level is Seager, so his drafting is probably average.
He can't make a trade to save his life, and his FA signings have been a disaster
In today's game, a good rotation + a strong bullpen makes up for a mediocre offense ... particularly if you are pitching in a pitchers park like Safeco.
You'd think that what Tampa and Oakland do is fucking rocket science.
In today's game, a good rotation + a strong bullpen makes up for a mediocre offense ... particularly if you are pitching in a pitchers park like Safeco.
You'd think that what Tampa and Oakland do is fucking rocket science.
You need at least a mediocre offense, not a historically bad one. Not to mention, the Mariners rotation isn't as good as either of those teams, and their bullpen is a disaster compared to theirs.
1) It's popular to rip on Bavasi's signings of Sexson and Beltre. Sexson was fine for his first 2 years. Beltre is a potential future HOFer depending on how the rest of his career plays out.
1) It's popular to rip on Bavasi's signings of Sexson and Beltre. Sexson was fine for his first 2 years. Beltre is a potential future HOFer depending on how the rest of his career plays out.
I stopped reading here.
TequillaFS
I almost did too but I went and looked at Beltre's stats again. He had a pretty good average WAR in his 5 years with the M's and has 376 HR's at age 34. He could be a HOF based on stats but I don't think the BBWAA would elect him because of steroid rumors.
Beltre's case is dependent on his being one of the best defensive third basemen in the history of the game. It's unlikely that he'd be elected, but not unbelievable.
Beltre's case is dependent on his being one of the best defensive third basemen in the history of the game. It's unlikely that he'd be elected, but not unbelievable.
You would also have to ignore the significant statistical evidence that suggests that he's a juicer.
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1. Miller SS
2. Seager 3B
3. Cano 2B
4. Hart DH
decent 1-2-3-4
then the fucking dreckfest begins
5. Morrison LF
6. Smoak 1B (this loser should've been gone 2 years ago)
7. Zunino C
8. Ackley CF
9. Romero RF
SP:
Hernandez
Iwakuma
Walker
Paxton
#5 will be the only move they make
Rotation isn't horrible
Bullpen is awful, not one player in the pen isn't making limited salary, could've easily signed a Downs, or a Boone Logan, or a Balfour for barely over 5 million.
the best I can see is 78-86
tell me this is a joke?
thats worse than desperation. Im embarrassed to be a fan
2) I like the moves to get Hart and Morrison this offseason. Problem is that you are foolish to have expectations for them without solid backup plans given their injury histories. We don't have backup plans. Smoak isn't part of the solution.
3) I have a feeling that Ackley will have a breakout year this year.
4) They really need to move Nick Franklin into something useful.
5) Other than the fact that with Walker and Paxton in the rotation you are going to watch their innings, the rotation is looking to be a solid strength that should keep you in games (particularly if they would invest in going after a solid #3 that takes the pressure off of Walker and Paxton ... but that would be fucking smart and not FS
6) In today's game of baseball, you are a fucking idiot as a GM if you don't invest in a solid bullpen ... it's often the difference between good teams and bad teams.
Ackley could break out, but he just isn't an OFer.
There is not one OF out of Gutierrez, Saunders, Morrison, Hart, Ackley, and Almonte that can start on a playoff caliber team, not one.
The bullpen is garbage, I repeat they are paying minimum salary to every single member, look at what having a good bullpen did for the pirates last year.
Jack Z has been advertised as some scouting genius, but the only draft pick that has actually proved he can produce at a ML level is Seager, so his drafting is probably average.
He can't make a trade to save his life, and his FA signings have been a disaster
You'd think that what Tampa and Oakland do is fucking rocket science.
TequillaFS
Sexson....uhhhh. No. Not good at all.
His sudden resurgence with a known doping team speaks volumes.