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"we've done jack squat for ten years, why change anything"
-Mariners FO
the only reason La Russa isn't being hired is he isn't a yes man for howard lincoln
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    Hiring La Russa would actually increase expectations. If Seattleites are currently willing to attend AAA games at MLB prices, why make them care about winning?
  • It's ridiculous they are going to hire from within when this franchise needs some serious changes.

    LaRussa would demand change and run this team like a baseball organization. Something we haven't seen since Lou/Gillick were in charge.
  • uw2010
    uw2010 Member Posts: 940
    "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    The front office knew damn well when they signed Cano to an ARod deal, that it wouldn't do a fucking thing in improving their chance for the playoffs. However, the fanbase will give a "we suck, but at least the front office is trying" response. That is all the front office cares about in the end. They want a dumb fucking fanbase that will overpay to attend games and not demand anything of substance in return. In fact, the Mariner front office is probably the smartest group in baseball, because they got exactly what they wanted.

    I used to be a fan of the Mariners, but after the Beltre and Sexson deals I was done being a fan. I did however follow them, thinking that maybe I could start liking them again, but after this last deal with Cano, I'm gone from that group. I now despise the Mariners, because of their lack of competitiveness at the front office level. I now realize that management is actually trying to miss the playoffs, while being just good enough to not be the worst. I hope they lose every fucking game next season. Seattleites deserve 0-162.

    you hit the nail on the fucking head. Signing cano and no one else is not going to lead to 90+ wins. It's simply a ticket and jersey selling ploy, they're toying with this idiotic fanbase.
    I will say this at least mariner fans are better than doogs, they stopped going after a while. Expect crowds of under 10K a lot unless they magically start winning
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    dhdawg said:

    The front office knew damn well when they signed Cano to an ARod deal, that it wouldn't do a fucking thing in improving their chance for the playoffs. However, the fanbase will give a "we suck, but at least the front office is trying" response. That is all the front office cares about in the end. They want a dumb fucking fanbase that will overpay to attend games and not demand anything of substance in return. In fact, the Mariner front office is probably the smartest group in baseball, because they got exactly what they wanted.

    I used to be a fan of the Mariners, but after the Beltre and Sexson deals I was done being a fan. I did however follow them, thinking that maybe I could start liking them again, but after this last deal with Cano, I'm gone from that group. I now despise the Mariners, because of their lack of competitiveness at the front office level. I now realize that management is actually trying to miss the playoffs, while being just good enough to not be the worst. I hope they lose every fucking game next season. Seattleites deserve 0-162.

    you hit the nail on the fucking head. Signing cano and no one else is not going to lead to 90+ wins. It's simply a ticket and jersey selling ploy, they're toying with this idiotic fanbase.
    I will say this at least mariner fans are better than doogs, they stopped going after a while. Expect crowds of under 10K a lot unless they magically start winning
    Didn't they average something like 22k last year without Cano? You give Seattleites too much credit. You will see 30k+ fans until about month 2, when Seattle is 10 games out, then you'll still get the 30k+ when Felix pitches. All cumulating to about a 25k average next year. Ownership will be very pleased, even after they go 62-100.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    dhdawg said:

    The front office knew damn well when they signed Cano to an ARod deal, that it wouldn't do a fucking thing in improving their chance for the playoffs. However, the fanbase will give a "we suck, but at least the front office is trying" response. That is all the front office cares about in the end. They want a dumb fucking fanbase that will overpay to attend games and not demand anything of substance in return. In fact, the Mariner front office is probably the smartest group in baseball, because they got exactly what they wanted.

    I used to be a fan of the Mariners, but after the Beltre and Sexson deals I was done being a fan. I did however follow them, thinking that maybe I could start liking them again, but after this last deal with Cano, I'm gone from that group. I now despise the Mariners, because of their lack of competitiveness at the front office level. I now realize that management is actually trying to miss the playoffs, while being just good enough to not be the worst. I hope they lose every fucking game next season. Seattleites deserve 0-162.

    you hit the nail on the fucking head. Signing cano and no one else is not going to lead to 90+ wins. It's simply a ticket and jersey selling ploy, they're toying with this idiotic fanbase.
    I will say this at least mariner fans are better than doogs, they stopped going after a while. Expect crowds of under 10K a lot unless they magically start winning
    Didn't they average something like 22k last year without Cano? You give Seattleites too much credit. You will see 30k+ fans until about month 2, when Seattle is 10 games out, then you'll still get the 30k+ when Felix pitches. All cumulating to about a 25k average next year. Ownership will be very pleased, even after they go 62-100.
    Disagree. No way Robinson Cano is worth 8k per game for a month.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,128 Founders Club
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    dnc said:

    dhdawg said:

    The front office knew damn well when they signed Cano to an ARod deal, that it wouldn't do a fucking thing in improving their chance for the playoffs. However, the fanbase will give a "we suck, but at least the front office is trying" response. That is all the front office cares about in the end. They want a dumb fucking fanbase that will overpay to attend games and not demand anything of substance in return. In fact, the Mariner front office is probably the smartest group in baseball, because they got exactly what they wanted.

    I used to be a fan of the Mariners, but after the Beltre and Sexson deals I was done being a fan. I did however follow them, thinking that maybe I could start liking them again, but after this last deal with Cano, I'm gone from that group. I now despise the Mariners, because of their lack of competitiveness at the front office level. I now realize that management is actually trying to miss the playoffs, while being just good enough to not be the worst. I hope they lose every fucking game next season. Seattleites deserve 0-162.

    you hit the nail on the fucking head. Signing cano and no one else is not going to lead to 90+ wins. It's simply a ticket and jersey selling ploy, they're toying with this idiotic fanbase.
    I will say this at least mariner fans are better than doogs, they stopped going after a while. Expect crowds of under 10K a lot unless they magically start winning
    Didn't they average something like 22k last year without Cano? You give Seattleites too much credit. You will see 30k+ fans until about month 2, when Seattle is 10 games out, then you'll still get the 30k+ when Felix pitches. All cumulating to about a 25k average next year. Ownership will be very pleased, even after they go 62-100.
    Disagree. No way Robinson Cano is worth 8k per game for a month.

    Remember that season ticket sales still make the team money even if the idiots who bought them don't show.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Unless LaRussa is bringing steroids and HGH in the door with him, he wouldn't be helping the Mariners at all.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    dhdawg said:

    The front office knew damn well when they signed Cano to an ARod deal, that it wouldn't do a fucking thing in improving their chance for the playoffs. However, the fanbase will give a "we suck, but at least the front office is trying" response. That is all the front office cares about in the end. They want a dumb fucking fanbase that will overpay to attend games and not demand anything of substance in return. In fact, the Mariner front office is probably the smartest group in baseball, because they got exactly what they wanted.

    I used to be a fan of the Mariners, but after the Beltre and Sexson deals I was done being a fan. I did however follow them, thinking that maybe I could start liking them again, but after this last deal with Cano, I'm gone from that group. I now despise the Mariners, because of their lack of competitiveness at the front office level. I now realize that management is actually trying to miss the playoffs, while being just good enough to not be the worst. I hope they lose every fucking game next season. Seattleites deserve 0-162.

    you hit the nail on the fucking head. Signing cano and no one else is not going to lead to 90+ wins. It's simply a ticket and jersey selling ploy, they're toying with this idiotic fanbase.
    I will say this at least mariner fans are better than doogs, they stopped going after a while. Expect crowds of under 10K a lot unless they magically start winning
    Didn't they average something like 22k last year without Cano? You give Seattleites too much credit. You will see 30k+ fans until about month 2, when Seattle is 10 games out, then you'll still get the 30k+ when Felix pitches. All cumulating to about a 25k average next year. Ownership will be very pleased, even after they go 62-100.
    I watched a lot last year, trust me there were some awful crowds especially in April and towards the end. They obviously won't average anything less than 20 but there will be some bad crowds
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    I thought the Mariners might have gained some balls after the Cano signing and go out and pay out the ass for a couple other players to really get serious.... then of course they show you why they are the Mariners. Now Cano will come and be way overpayed and they will win the exact same amount of games they have been.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    I thought the Mariners might have gained some balls after the Cano signing and go out and pay out the ass for a couple other players to really get serious.... then of course they show you why they are the Mariners. Now Cano will come and be way overpayed and they will win the exact same amount of games they have been.

    It cracks me up that the Mariners will pay Cano the same they could have paid Jacoby Ellsbury's and Carlos Beltran. FS
  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    edited January 2014
    I love how when Jack Z (I like to call him that) was first hired, he was supposed to be the next "Tampa Bay" style GM who will build the team through superior scouting and getting cheap, undervalued talent. After completely failing at that he's now just a fat, bald, lazy piece of shit throwing out the entire budget on whichever big name wants to come and finish their career in Seattle.

    Off the top of my head: failed acquisitions through the draft and trade -
    Dustin Ackley
    Justin Smoak
    Danny Hultzen (ironically he was the "safe" pick in the draft with the lowest upside, and now he has elbow issues)
    Jesus Montero

    The latest top draft pick, Zunino, is another low upside guy but he was the closest to being major league ready! Because screw talent, we want more average players on our MLB roster as soon as possible.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,539 Founders Club
    they knew that Seattle Times hit piece was coming and signed Cano to counter that bad PR.
  • SandyHooker
    SandyHooker Member Posts: 343
    So Lloyd McClendon will still not have enough bullets?
  • they knew that Seattle Times hit piece was coming and signed Cano to counter that bad PR.

    I don't think they'd commit $240 million as a smoke screen to a hit piece from the Times. They're just desperate for offense and losing patience.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    they knew that Seattle Times hit piece was coming and signed Cano to counter that bad PR.

    no they just don't have a fucking clue what they're doing
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    So Lloyd McClendon will still not have enough bullets?

    I am just glad we have a black coach again. Shows you how multi-cultural Seattle really is. Best city on earth!!1
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    BREAKING NEWS: They hired another yes man, oh wait, everyone with half a brain knew that would happen all along
  • SteveInShelton
    SteveInShelton Member Posts: 1,611
    edited January 2014
    Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.

    I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    dhdawg said:

    Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.

    I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
    Matches the expectations of the Seattle scarve-wearing hipsters who watch that cesspool of a team.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    MisterEm said:

    dhdawg said:

    Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.

    I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
    Matches the expectations of the Seattle scarve-wearing hipsters who watch that cesspool of a team.

    huh?

  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited January 2014
    it doesn't look like they're going to make any more moves. So the lineup is probably going to be
    1. Miller SS
    2. Seager 3B
    3. Cano 2B
    4. Hart DH
    decent 1-2-3-4
    then the fucking dreckfest begins
    5. Morrison LF
    6. Smoak 1B (this loser should've been gone 2 years ago)
    7. Zunino C
    8. Ackley CF
    9. Romero RF

    SP:
    Hernandez
    Iwakuma
    Walker
    Paxton
    #5 will be the only move they make
    Rotation isn't horrible

    Bullpen is awful, not one player in the pen isn't making limited salary, could've easily signed a Downs, or a Boone Logan, or a Balfour for barely over 5 million.

    the best I can see is 78-86
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,679 Standard Supporter
    dhdawg said:

    Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.

    I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
    Exactly. They've hyped rally fries and kiddie nonsense for a long time, probably getting back to the late 90s, but back then they were actually winning and making the playoffs. At this pt. even some of the Marineroogs? can see they only care about profit. I fell for the b******* in the 2009-2010 offseason. They were coming off of a winning year and the FA acquisitions were supposed to make them a 90 won team. Then they bombed in April. Anyone who falls for their smokescreen deserves to pay for 10 dollar beers and listen to Fleenor for the rest of their life
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited January 2014

    dhdawg said:

    Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.

    I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
    Exactly. They've hyped rally fries and kiddie nonsense for a long time, probably getting back to the late 90s, but back then they were actually winning and making the playoffs. At this pt. even some of the Marineroogs? can see they only care about profit. I fell for the b******* in the 2009-2010 offseason. They were coming off of a winning year and the FA acquisitions were supposed to make them a 90 won team. Then they bombed in April. Anyone who falls for their smokescreen deserves to pay for 10 dollar beers and listen to Fleenor for the rest of their life
    I thought they had reached an alltime low but I saw the other day they're doing Macklemore bobble head night. I'm a baseball fan, it was my first passion as a kid when it came to sports. I try to support them but they make it really tough
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    edited January 2014
    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    Mariners ownership doesn't want a winning team because it breeds classless, thuggish fans that will just cause problems at games. A good family atmosphere is much better than winning.

    I know that's sarcasm but they legitimately care more about the ballpark experience than winning ball games
    Exactly. They've hyped rally fries and kiddie nonsense for a long time, probably getting back to the late 90s, but back then they were actually winning and making the playoffs. At this pt. even some of the Marineroogs? can see they only care about profit. I fell for the b******* in the 2009-2010 offseason. They were coming off of a winning year and the FA acquisitions were supposed to make them a 90 won team. Then they bombed in April. Anyone who falls for their smokescreen deserves to pay for 10 dollar beers and listen to Fleenor for the rest of their life
    I thought they had reached an alltime low but I saw the other day they're doing Macklemore bobble head night. I'm a baseball fan, it was my first passion as a kid when it came to sports. I try to support them but they make it really tough
    This is a joke right? Macklemore bobblehead?

    tell me this is a joke?
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    I had to see it to believe it. A macklemore bobble head night

    thats worse than desperation. Im embarrassed to be a fan
  • dhdawg said:

    it doesn't look like they're going to make any more moves. So the lineup is probably going to be
    1. Miller SS
    2. Seager 3B
    3. Cano 2B
    4. Hart DH
    decent 1-2-3-4
    then the fucking dreckfest begins
    5. Morrison LF
    6. Smoak 1B (this loser should've been gone 2 years ago)
    7. Zunino C
    8. Ackley CF
    9. Romero RF

    SP:
    Hernandez
    Iwakuma
    Walker
    Paxton
    #5 will be the only move they make
    Rotation isn't horrible

    Bullpen is awful, not one player in the pen isn't making limited salary, could've easily signed a Downs, or a Boone Logan, or a Balfour for barely over 5 million.

    the best I can see is 78-86

    Great 164 game season as always.