Rittenhouse- you decide
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The military thing is a false comparison. The 17yos in Marines or whatever have been trained and supervised by a chain of command. Completely different from Rittenburg aside from the age.Sledog said:
Probably shouldn't have been. Audie Murphy was 17 when he enlisted and fought Germans and was the most highly decorated soldier of WWII and probably ever. Many enlisted by lying about their age. He felt compelled to do something just like they did.GrundleStiltzkin said:Nothing I've read or seen in this story, which is a lot, has changed my mind that the kid shouldn't have been there. For that matter, no one should have been there. Protests are dumb. I don't care what your cause is, get out of the fucking road.
What my mind has been changed on, with @Swaye being the first making the argument, is how he handled himself once in the situation. He didn't fire indiscriminately and fired only when directly attacked.
People died in the street, not in someone's house. There must be a legal process. However, I hope that he is acquitted.
Big picture, I feel the country got lightly that there were relatively few of these incidents. -
Same reason. I was only comparing the reasoning.GrundleStiltzkin said:
The military thing is a false comparison. The 17yos in Marines or whatever have been trained and supervised by a chain of command. Completely different from Rittenburg aside from the age.Sledog said:
Probably shouldn't have been. Audie Murphy was 17 when he enlisted and fought Germans and was the most highly decorated soldier of WWII and probably ever. Many enlisted by lying about their age. He felt compelled to do something just like they did.GrundleStiltzkin said:Nothing I've read or seen in this story, which is a lot, has changed my mind that the kid shouldn't have been there. For that matter, no one should have been there. Protests are dumb. I don't care what your cause is, get out of the fucking road.
What my mind has been changed on, with @Swaye being the first making the argument, is how he handled himself once in the situation. He didn't fire indiscriminately and fired only when directly attacked.
People died in the street, not in someone's house. There must be a legal process. However, I hope that he is acquitted.
Big picture, I feel the country got lightly that there were relatively few of these incidents.
Kyle just made 2 million in bail. -
Audie Murphy was trained in the US Army and led by officers into battle. There's no analogy here to Rittenhouse.Sledog said:
Probably shouldn't have been. Audie Murphy was 17 when he enlisted and fought Germans and was the most highly decorated soldier of WWII and probably ever. Many enlisted by lying about their age. He felt compelled to do something just like they did.GrundleStiltzkin said:Nothing I've read or seen in this story, which is a lot, has changed my mind that the kid shouldn't have been there. For that matter, no one should have been there. Protests are dumb. I don't care what your cause is, get out of the fucking road.
What my mind has been changed on, with @Swaye being the first making the argument, is how he handled himself once in the situation. He didn't fire indiscriminately and fired only when directly attacked.
People died in the street, not in someone's house. There must be a legal process. However, I hope that he is acquitted.
Big picture, I feel the country got lightly that there were relatively few of these incidents. -
Audie was only 17 he shouldn't have been there.YellowSnow said:
Audie Murphy was trained in the US Army and led by officers into battle. There's no analogy here to Rittenhouse.Sledog said:
Probably shouldn't have been. Audie Murphy was 17 when he enlisted and fought Germans and was the most highly decorated soldier of WWII and probably ever. Many enlisted by lying about their age. He felt compelled to do something just like they did.GrundleStiltzkin said:Nothing I've read or seen in this story, which is a lot, has changed my mind that the kid shouldn't have been there. For that matter, no one should have been there. Protests are dumb. I don't care what your cause is, get out of the fucking road.
What my mind has been changed on, with @Swaye being the first making the argument, is how he handled himself once in the situation. He didn't fire indiscriminately and fired only when directly attacked.
People died in the street, not in someone's house. There must be a legal process. However, I hope that he is acquitted.
Big picture, I feel the country got lightly that there were relatively few of these incidents. -
Christ, this reminds me of your position on Nick Sandmann. You immediately took the mob's position in slandering the kid because he wore a hat you don't like, so he was begging for it, right? How's that played out?YellowSnow said:
How can you conclude he was "objectively prepared"? He was running for his damn life from an angry mob and is lucky to be alive. I can appreciate and respeck the kid's desire to DO SOMETHING, but he was way in over his head from the get go.Southerndawg said:
He's far from a retard. You might not like his published support for law enforcement, or his involvement in this incident, or the way he looks, or whatever, but objectively he's a very prepared young man who showed an incredible amount of discipline and skill in an incredibly bad situation.RoadDawg55 said:He’s a retard but he should walk.
He was asked to be there to help out, and he willingly stepped up to do so. He showed up prepared to provide first aid as well as protect himself and others from life threatening attacks. He did NOT spray bullets randomly into a crowd or simply walk up to Antifa/BLM asshats and shoot them, but rather attempted to escape while under life threatening attacks, resorting to fire only as a last option and only firing upon and hitting his attackers. Along the way he was in contact with emergency services and attempted to turn himself in to the police when it was finally "safe" for him to do so. Definitely not a retard.
Shooting someone dead - even when it's justified - is a huge pain in the ass. The kid proactively got into a life or death situation he had no business being in. Contrast Rittenhouse's choices with, say, the images of the well armed black store owners in MN protecting their property and livelihood. Those grown ass men were prepared and had enough firepower to dissuade the mob.
Rittenhouse had every right to be there, was asked to do so and was extremely prepared. His actions bear this out. He was not in over his head, he not only survived but did so in a highly disciplined display of self defense. The kid was more than a grown ass man, he was fucking nails. -
Kyle is a good shot. Get him down to the USMC 'crooting office.Sledog said:
Audie was only 17 he shouldn't have been there.YellowSnow said:
Audie Murphy was trained in the US Army and led by officers into battle. There's no analogy here to Rittenhouse.Sledog said:
Probably shouldn't have been. Audie Murphy was 17 when he enlisted and fought Germans and was the most highly decorated soldier of WWII and probably ever. Many enlisted by lying about their age. He felt compelled to do something just like they did.GrundleStiltzkin said:Nothing I've read or seen in this story, which is a lot, has changed my mind that the kid shouldn't have been there. For that matter, no one should have been there. Protests are dumb. I don't care what your cause is, get out of the fucking road.
What my mind has been changed on, with @Swaye being the first making the argument, is how he handled himself once in the situation. He didn't fire indiscriminately and fired only when directly attacked.
People died in the street, not in someone's house. There must be a legal process. However, I hope that he is acquitted.
Big picture, I feel the country got lightly that there were relatively few of these incidents. -
Yeah he did better than 99% of the anyone else in that situation would have doneSoutherndawg said:
He's far from a retard. You might not like his published support for law enforcement, or his involvement in this incident, or the way he looks, or whatever, but objectively he's a very prepared young man who showed an incredible amount of discipline and skill in an incredibly bad situation.RoadDawg55 said:He’s a retard but he should walk.
He was asked to be there to help out, and he willingly stepped up to do so. He showed up prepared to provide first aid as well as protect himself and others from life threatening attacks. He did NOT spray bullets randomly into a crowd or simply walk up to Antifa/BLM asshats and shoot them, but rather attempted to escape while under life threatening attacks, resorting to fire only as a last option and only firing upon and hitting his attackers. Along the way he was in contact with emergency services and attempted to turn himself in to the police when it was finally "safe" for him to do so. Definitely not a retard. -
This is prepared? Give me a fucking break. Like I said, things came really god damned close ending up very badly for the kid.Southerndawg said:
Christ, this reminds me of your position on Nick Sandmann. You immediately took the mob's position in slandering the kid because he wore a hat you don't like, so he was begging for it, right? How's that played out?YellowSnow said:
How can you conclude he was "objectively prepared"? He was running for his damn life from an angry mob and is lucky to be alive. I can appreciate and respeck the kid's desire to DO SOMETHING, but he was way in over his head from the get go.Southerndawg said:
He's far from a retard. You might not like his published support for law enforcement, or his involvement in this incident, or the way he looks, or whatever, but objectively he's a very prepared young man who showed an incredible amount of discipline and skill in an incredibly bad situation.RoadDawg55 said:He’s a retard but he should walk.
He was asked to be there to help out, and he willingly stepped up to do so. He showed up prepared to provide first aid as well as protect himself and others from life threatening attacks. He did NOT spray bullets randomly into a crowd or simply walk up to Antifa/BLM asshats and shoot them, but rather attempted to escape while under life threatening attacks, resorting to fire only as a last option and only firing upon and hitting his attackers. Along the way he was in contact with emergency services and attempted to turn himself in to the police when it was finally "safe" for him to do so. Definitely not a retard.
Shooting someone dead - even when it's justified - is a huge pain in the ass. The kid proactively got into a life or death situation he had no business being in. Contrast Rittenhouse's choices with, say, the images of the well armed black store owners in MN protecting their property and livelihood. Those grown ass men were prepared and had enough firepower to dissuade the mob.
Rittenhouse had every right to be there, was asked to do so and was extremely prepared. His actions bear this out. He was not in over his head, he not only survived but did so in a highly disciplined display of self defense. The kid was more than a grown ass man, he was fucking nails.
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Im going to need to wait for the supreme court to tell me my opinion on this.Southerndawg said:
Christ, this reminds me of your position on Nick Sandmann. You immediately took the mob's position in slandering the kid because he wore a hat you don't like, so he was begging for it, right? How's that played out?YellowSnow said:
How can you conclude he was "objectively prepared"? He was running for his damn life from an angry mob and is lucky to be alive. I can appreciate and respeck the kid's desire to DO SOMETHING, but he was way in over his head from the get go.Southerndawg said:
He's far from a retard. You might not like his published support for law enforcement, or his involvement in this incident, or the way he looks, or whatever, but objectively he's a very prepared young man who showed an incredible amount of discipline and skill in an incredibly bad situation.RoadDawg55 said:He’s a retard but he should walk.
He was asked to be there to help out, and he willingly stepped up to do so. He showed up prepared to provide first aid as well as protect himself and others from life threatening attacks. He did NOT spray bullets randomly into a crowd or simply walk up to Antifa/BLM asshats and shoot them, but rather attempted to escape while under life threatening attacks, resorting to fire only as a last option and only firing upon and hitting his attackers. Along the way he was in contact with emergency services and attempted to turn himself in to the police when it was finally "safe" for him to do so. Definitely not a retard.
Shooting someone dead - even when it's justified - is a huge pain in the ass. The kid proactively got into a life or death situation he had no business being in. Contrast Rittenhouse's choices with, say, the images of the well armed black store owners in MN protecting their property and livelihood. Those grown ass men were prepared and had enough firepower to dissuade the mob.
Rittenhouse had every right to be there, was asked to do so and was extremely prepared. His actions bear this out. He was not in over his head, he not only survived but did so in a highly disciplined display of self defense. The kid was more than a grown ass man, he was fucking nails. -
Fuck off. What happened during that exchange? Kyle survives by capably shooting his attackers, and only his attackers. The first attacker was trying to kill him by bashing his head in with a skateboard. Kyle drops him dead with a shot to the chest. The second attacker attempts to shoot Kyle, and Kyle takes out the guy's "shooting" arm. Was Kyle at risk? Absofuckinglootely. But he was beyond prepared, and performed impeccably.YellowSnow said:
This is prepared? Give me a fucking break. Like I said, things came really god damned close ending up very badly for the kid.Southerndawg said:
Christ, this reminds me of your position on Nick Sandmann. You immediately took the mob's position in slandering the kid because he wore a hat you don't like, so he was begging for it, right? How's that played out?YellowSnow said:
How can you conclude he was "objectively prepared"? He was running for his damn life from an angry mob and is lucky to be alive. I can appreciate and respeck the kid's desire to DO SOMETHING, but he was way in over his head from the get go.Southerndawg said:
He's far from a retard. You might not like his published support for law enforcement, or his involvement in this incident, or the way he looks, or whatever, but objectively he's a very prepared young man who showed an incredible amount of discipline and skill in an incredibly bad situation.RoadDawg55 said:He’s a retard but he should walk.
He was asked to be there to help out, and he willingly stepped up to do so. He showed up prepared to provide first aid as well as protect himself and others from life threatening attacks. He did NOT spray bullets randomly into a crowd or simply walk up to Antifa/BLM asshats and shoot them, but rather attempted to escape while under life threatening attacks, resorting to fire only as a last option and only firing upon and hitting his attackers. Along the way he was in contact with emergency services and attempted to turn himself in to the police when it was finally "safe" for him to do so. Definitely not a retard.
Shooting someone dead - even when it's justified - is a huge pain in the ass. The kid proactively got into a life or death situation he had no business being in. Contrast Rittenhouse's choices with, say, the images of the well armed black store owners in MN protecting their property and livelihood. Those grown ass men were prepared and had enough firepower to dissuade the mob.
Rittenhouse had every right to be there, was asked to do so and was extremely prepared. His actions bear this out. He was not in over his head, he not only survived but did so in a highly disciplined display of self defense. The kid was more than a grown ass man, he was fucking nails.
