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The democrats had a big chance on healthcare and gave us Obamacare and starting losing seats the next election because Obama was such a lying piece of shit
Yeah we need healthcare. We need to scrap the remnant of Obamacare and get prices down and lower than they were before Obama ruined it
If the public loves Obamacare so much Hillary would have beat Trump. They don't. They hate both parties for doing nothing to fix it
Get the government out of it. Make sure everyone gets heatlhCARE. Fuck insurance by the government -
I thought Biden had it all locked up anyways? Seems to be a no lose situation for them if they are already on their way out. Perfect situation to get a conservative court before the Marxists attempt government take over.incremetal_progress said:You can attack her personally and quibble with some of her remarks but the message on healthcare is direct and devastating.
Yes the republicans got the SCOTUS supermajority liberals feared greatly, congratulations it's devastating. But it's also not going to play well in November, both things are true. -
You're right healthcare is a real winning issue for Trump right now. I wonder why he isn't leaning into it more.
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page 2 issue. Obamacare isn’t on the ballot.
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Because he is smarter than you areincremetal_progress said:You're right healthcare is a real winning issue for Trump right now. I wonder why he isn't leaning into it more.
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THIS.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.
She's already dead. Empty seat automatically means higher stakes if left on the table. There's literally no reason to leave your opposition additional leverage if they win. You remove the additional incentive for opposition voters if you have the chance.
Those that will "punish vote" against you that weren't already going to are probably statistically meaningless. -
After reflecting on this I am in this camp now as well. My initial hot take was it was push lots of Voters to Biden. My initial hot takes are usually stupid.UW_Doog_Bot said:
THIS.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.
She's already dead. Empty seat automatically means higher stakes if left on the table. There's literally no reason to leave your opposition additional leverage if they win. You remove the additional incentive for opposition voters if you have the chance.
Those that will "punish vote" against you that weren't already going to are probably statistically meaningless. -
It really is some nice guys finish last shit not to and we have entered thunderdome where 2 parties enter 1 party leaves.Swaye said:
After reflecting on this I am in this camp now as well. My initial hot take was it was push lots of Voters to Biden. My initial hot takes are usually stupid.UW_Doog_Bot said:
THIS.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.
She's already dead. Empty seat automatically means higher stakes if left on the table. There's literally no reason to leave your opposition additional leverage if they win. You remove the additional incentive for opposition voters if you have the chance.
Those that will "punish vote" against you that weren't already going to are probably statistically meaningless.
The Dems and their erstwhile marxist/statist allies are playing to win the game en full and eliminate future competition. Spying on opposing parties, attempting a litigation coup, and attempting to leverage and instigate insurrectionists isn't "civil democracy". It's naked power real politik. I'm glad to see Trump's winners win attitude has rubbed off ever so slightly on the GOP. -
At worst it's a short term trade off for a long term gain. SCOTUS supermajority trumps (lolol11o1!0o) a presidential term even with a house and senate majority.incremetal_progress said:You can attack her personally and quibble with some of her remarks but the message on healthcare is direct and devastating.
Yes the republicans got the SCOTUS supermajority liberals feared greatly, congratulations it's devastating. But it's also not going to play well in November, both things are true. -
All the BLM money is funneling right to the DNCSwaye said:
I find it very strange that Dems are out fund raising the GOP by multiples if recent reporting is to be believed.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this. -
Yup and Lincoln project, why would the be against Lindsey? He is the opposite of Trump, I thought they hated Trump because of how he treats people etc. Well Lindsey is all class, so no they are a bunch of democrats.SFGbob said:
Looked to me like a Politician asked for donations. Didn't see any crying or begging.incremetal_progress said:
You want it destroyed.thechatch said:I want ObamaCare destroyed.
Go to a two tier system and protect PECs. That’s all we need.
It’s not hard.
More than 65% of the electorate does not.
Also Lindsay basically crying and begging Fox News viewers for help shows where things are headed. -
I remember her attacks on Kavanaugh... she can pound sandincremetal_progress said:
They aren't going to attack the individual, they are actually for once being smart and talking about what the court is going to do.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPKJMHkjcI&t=29s
70% don't want to overturn Roe, about the same don't want the ACA's protections repealed. -
I really hate that this will go down as my most active thread in HH history.
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Hirono is such a Uniter. @incremetal_progress’s America.Goduckies said:
I remember her attacks on Kavanaugh... she can pound sandincremetal_progress said:
They aren't going to attack the individual, they are actually for once being smart and talking about what the court is going to do.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPKJMHkjcI&t=29s
70% don't want to overturn Roe, about the same don't want the ACA's protections repealed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/07/13/hirono-draws-heat-calling-president-trumps-supporters-white-supremacists/?outputType=amp
Hirono draws heat for calling President Trump’s supporters ‘white supremacists‘
By HNN Staff | July 13, 2020 at 5:59 PM HST - Updated July 14 at 4:26 PM
HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - Congressional Republicans expressed outrage Monday after US Sen. Mazie Hirono called President Trump’s supporters “white supremacists.”
Hirono, D-Hawaii, made the comments during an interview on MSNBC in which she called for a more coordinated federal response to the pandemic and its economic fallout along with systemic racism.
“We should be dealing with economic crisis. And we should be dealing with the racism that is in our country, to which the president speaks to, because he has a base of supporters who are very anti-immigrant and white supremacist,” Hirono said. -
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no, no, no, lol, no, no, no, no, lolNorthwestFresh said:It’s a mental disorder.
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12 liberal woman and not even 1 is remotely fuckable without a paper bagNorthwestFresh said:It’s a mental disorder.
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It forces women to get their medical care in the back alley you fucking liar!!!NorthwestFresh said:
I don’t give a shit about Roe, it’s overrated completely to fool people on the Left and Right,but if it’s repealed, all it does is transfer abortion law to the states. If some states want to ban it and you want abortions nearby, move if it’s so important.incremetal_progress said:
They aren't going to attack the individual, they are actually for once being smart and talking about what the court is going to do.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPKJMHkjcI&t=29s
70% don't want to overturn Roe, about the same don't want the ACA's protections repealed. -
It forces women to get their medical care in the back alley you fucking liar!!!NorthwestFresh said:
I don’t give a shit about Roe, it’s overrated completely to fool people on the Left and Right,but if it’s repealed, all it does is transfer abortion law to the states. If some states want to ban it and you want abortions nearby, move if it’s so important.incremetal_progress said:
They aren't going to attack the individual, they are actually for once being smart and talking about what the court is going to do.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPKJMHkjcI&t=29s
70% don't want to overturn Roe, about the same don't want the ACA's protections repealed. -
@CoatHangerDawg, true?SFGbob said:
It forces women to get their medical care in the back alley you fucking liar!!!NorthwestFresh said:
I don’t give a shit about Roe, it’s overrated completely to fool people on the Left and Right,but if it’s repealed, all it does is transfer abortion law to the states. If some states want to ban it and you want abortions nearby, move if it’s so important.incremetal_progress said:
They aren't going to attack the individual, they are actually for once being smart and talking about what the court is going to do.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPKJMHkjcI&t=29s
70% don't want to overturn Roe, about the same don't want the ACA's protections repealed.
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The Libs still haven't figured out how deep in the sack the Clintons, Obamas, Bidens and Pelosis are with the Insurance Industry and Wall Street. It's ironic, hilarious at times, but mostly sad that the Libs are so fucking stupid when it comes to money matters.RaceBannon said:The democrats had a big chance on healthcare and gave us Obamacare and starting losing seats the next election because Obama was such a lying piece of shit
Yeah we need healthcare. We need to scrap the remnant of Obamacare and get prices down and lower than they were before Obama ruined it
If the public loves Obamacare so much Hillary would have beat Trump. They don't. They hate both parties for doing nothing to fix it
Get the government out of it. Make sure everyone gets heatlhCARE. Fuck insurance by the government
The great achievement of Obamacare was to mandate that everyone get insurance then have the middle class and working classes subsidize the poor and uninsured's premiums. There was no relief at all for 80% of the people who've been getting screwed by Health Insurers for the past 50 years.
I knew Obama was a POS when he punted the Public Option to saggy-sack Harry Reid, who in turn refused to bring the matter to a vote. Without the public option, there's no competitive check on the privates, whom continued to do as they pleased with Obamacare.
Fuck the Libs when it comes to Healthcare. At least the Cons openly admit they are fucking us and don't care if the uninsured die. I can work with that better than the duplicitous Obama bullshit. -
Health insurance carriers aren’t the ones making the money. I believe their profit margin is in the 4%-5% range, while drug manufacturers and care providers are making money hand over fist.TurdBomber said:
The Libs still haven't figured out how deep in the sack the Clintons, Obamas, Bidens and Pelosis are with the Insurance Industry and Wall Street. It's ironic, hilarious at times, but mostly sad that the Libs are so fucking stupid when it comes to money matters.RaceBannon said:The democrats had a big chance on healthcare and gave us Obamacare and starting losing seats the next election because Obama was such a lying piece of shit
Yeah we need healthcare. We need to scrap the remnant of Obamacare and get prices down and lower than they were before Obama ruined it
If the public loves Obamacare so much Hillary would have beat Trump. They don't. They hate both parties for doing nothing to fix it
Get the government out of it. Make sure everyone gets heatlhCARE. Fuck insurance by the government
The great achievement of Obamacare was to mandate that everyone get insurance then have the middle class and working classes subsidize the poor and uninsured's premiums. There was no relief at all for 80% of the people who've been getting screwed by Health Insurers for the past 50 years.
I knew Obama was a POS when he punted the Public Option to saggy-sack Harry Reid, who in turn refused to bring the matter to a vote. Without the public option, there's no competitive check on the privates, whom continued to do as they pleased with Obamacare.
Fuck the Libs when it comes to Healthcare. At least the Cons openly admit they are fucking us and don't care if the uninsured die. I can work with that better than the duplicitous Obama bullshit. -
And Schumer does it too.
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No do the Democrats and Obama in 2016 whining about Garland. But but it’s only the GOP who play politics. Does anyone with a brain believe this horseshit?Emoterman said: -
A racist in black robes? Hmmm...... -
More context to the fact that in all her years on the Court she only hired one black law clerk.Sledog said:
A racist in black robes? Hmmm...... -
Rest in white power RBG
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Certain care providers, sure. Large Hospital Groups yes. Private practice physicians are getting bent over.greenblood said:
Health insurance carriers aren’t the ones making the money. I believe their profit margin is in the 4%-5% range, while drug manufacturers and care providers are making money hand over fist.TurdBomber said:
The Libs still haven't figured out how deep in the sack the Clintons, Obamas, Bidens and Pelosis are with the Insurance Industry and Wall Street. It's ironic, hilarious at times, but mostly sad that the Libs are so fucking stupid when it comes to money matters.RaceBannon said:The democrats had a big chance on healthcare and gave us Obamacare and starting losing seats the next election because Obama was such a lying piece of shit
Yeah we need healthcare. We need to scrap the remnant of Obamacare and get prices down and lower than they were before Obama ruined it
If the public loves Obamacare so much Hillary would have beat Trump. They don't. They hate both parties for doing nothing to fix it
Get the government out of it. Make sure everyone gets heatlhCARE. Fuck insurance by the government
The great achievement of Obamacare was to mandate that everyone get insurance then have the middle class and working classes subsidize the poor and uninsured's premiums. There was no relief at all for 80% of the people who've been getting screwed by Health Insurers for the past 50 years.
I knew Obama was a POS when he punted the Public Option to saggy-sack Harry Reid, who in turn refused to bring the matter to a vote. Without the public option, there's no competitive check on the privates, whom continued to do as they pleased with Obamacare.
Fuck the Libs when it comes to Healthcare. At least the Cons openly admit they are fucking us and don't care if the uninsured die. I can work with that better than the duplicitous Obama bullshit. -
Jesus. That’s not telling at all...Sledog said:
A racist in black robes? Hmmm......
