Ginsberg Sells the Couch
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No one fucking cares about keeping Obamacare
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I want ObamaCare destroyed.
Go to a two tier system and protect PECs. That’s all we need.
It’s not hard.
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You want it destroyed.thechatch said:I want ObamaCare destroyed.
Go to a two tier system and protect PECs. That’s all we need.
It’s not hard.
More than 65% of the electorate does not.
Also Lindsay basically crying and begging Fox News viewers for help shows where things are headed.
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If you think Lindsey is scared or crying, you and your fellow Soyboys best stock up on undies.
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The ACA is a clumsy, poorly conceived partnership between the federal government and private insurance to provide substandard healthcare. Get the fucking fed out of private care.incremetal_progress said:
You want it destroyed.thechatch said:I want ObamaCare destroyed.
Go to a two tier system and protect PECs. That’s all we need.
It’s not hard.
More than 65% of the electorate does not.
Also Lindsay basically crying and begging Fox News viewers for help shows where things are headed.
Expand MC and MediCaid. Run it through the states at the university level with matching federal dollars. I’m ok with tax money going to this. I’m not ok with co-mingling the two systems, and introducing waste and elevated costs in both apparatuses.
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He isn't scared, just trying to fundraise
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It needs to stay at nine. And Harry Reid is a feckless pile of shit of a human being. Just terrible. Power at all costs.thechatch said:
Fuck Harry Reid for taking us down this road of using the Supreme court as a political campaign battleground.NorthwestFresh said:He’s got a point, you know.
Make SCOTUS 11 members after Trump wins and the GOP keeps the Senate and wins the House. -
They say everything will be on the table. Well, everything has been on the table since day one! The FBI conspired to create lies to drive Trump from office. How much worse than that does it get?Goduckies said:Except the impeachment was politics and there was no crime
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BOOM! Fucking this!thechatch said:
The ACA is a clumsy, poorly conceived partnership between the federal government and private insurance to provide substandard healthcare. Get the fucking fed out of private care.incremetal_progress said:
You want it destroyed.thechatch said:I want ObamaCare destroyed.
Go to a two tier system and protect PECs. That’s all we need.
It’s not hard.
More than 65% of the electorate does not.
Also Lindsay basically crying and begging Fox News viewers for help shows where things are headed.
Expand MC and MediCaid. Run it through the states at the university level with matching federal dollars. I’m ok with tax money going to this. I’m not ok with co-mingling the two systems, and introducing waste and elevated costs in both apparatuses. -
That's the only small worry I had. Fuck off Susan, fuck off Murkowski, fuck off Mitt the loser. Appears we have the votes. Let's do this. Don't give a fuck if Biden wins. SCOTUS for 20 years is worth any cost. Dem tears taste sweet.LoneStarDawg said:
edit: How does Murkowski keep getting elected? Bitch. -
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
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Was just looking at some polling suggesting there is a good chance the Senate flips to blue. Jesus Christ it's going to be interesting if Dems get the White House and the Senate.
Anybody in this shithole have any kind of a read on what is likely to happen in the Senate? I don't trust poles much. -
Since idiots procreate at higher rates, I imagine the country continuing to turn blue.Swaye said:Was just looking at some polling suggesting there is a good chance the Senate flips to blue. Jesus Christ it's going to be interesting if Dems get the White House and the Senate.
Anybody in this shithole have any kind of a read on what is likely to happen in the Senate? I don't trust poles much. -
greenblood said:
Since idiots procreate at higher rates, I imagine the country continuing to turn blue.Swaye said:Was just looking at some polling suggesting there is a good chance the Senate flips to blue. Jesus Christ it's going to be interesting if Dems get the White House and the Senate.
Anybody in this shithole have any kind of a read on what is likely to happen in the Senate? I don't trust poles much.
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The GOP isn't losing the senate for doing their job. When the democrats warn you against doing something you do it
If the GOP loses the senate it will be for the same reason they lost the house, not doing what they were elected to do -
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.
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I find it very strange that Dems are out fund raising the GOP by multiples if recent reporting is to be believed.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this. -
"Good chance" is spin. IF you believe the polls they have a slightly favored chance of doing it but that's essentially negated by the fact that they have to win all their flips and not have any incumbents lose. A 50/50 split is a real possibility too.Swaye said:Was just looking at some polling suggesting there is a good chance the Senate flips to blue. Jesus Christ it's going to be interesting if Dems get the White House and the Senate.
Anybody in this shithole have any kind of a read on what is likely to happen in the Senate? I don't trust poles much.
Get out and vote...in person. -
It’s not to be believedSwaye said:
I find it very strange that Dems are out fund raising the GOP by multiples if recent reporting is to be believed.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.
Key RNC figures of note from the party this morning:
It raised $67.6 million in August, including money transferred from supporting organizations.
- The RNC has $114.9 million on hand.
- Total RNC, Trump campaign, and its committees raised $212 million.
- Receipts for the 2019-2020 cycle across all entities was $1.3 billion.
- RNC debt: $0.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/record-breaking-gop-fundraising-haul-just-in-time-for-final-trump-push -
You're right. In 2016 the GOP held the Senate and had the power to not grant Obama's nominee a vote. And now in 2020 the GOP holds the Senate and has the power to grant Trump's nominee a vote. Completely different.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet. -
Wow, what a meltdown. I'm a Conservative and I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I will this election. Conservatives weren't "rabidly" for Trump. And I love how giving a President's SC nominee a vote is now "jamming through a justice."incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that. -
I wonder how "fund raising" is counted...Swaye said:
I find it very strange that Dems are out fund raising the GOP by multiples if recent reporting is to be believed.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.
Im sure BLM and antifa donations are through the fucking roof...
All the BLM donations on their website are funneled through the democrat superpac ActBlue -
Looked to me like a Politician asked for donations. Didn't see any crying or begging.incremetal_progress said:
You want it destroyed.thechatch said:I want ObamaCare destroyed.
Go to a two tier system and protect PECs. That’s all we need.
It’s not hard.
More than 65% of the electorate does not.
Also Lindsay basically crying and begging Fox News viewers for help shows where things are headed. -
They aren't going to attack the individual, they are actually for once being smart and talking about what the court is going to do.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPKJMHkjcI&t=29s
70% don't want to overturn Roe, about the same don't want the ACA's protections repealed.
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SFGbob said:
You're right. In 2016 the GOP held the Senate and had the power to not grant Obama's nominee a vote. And now in 2020 the GOP holds the Senate and has the power to grant Trump's nominee a vote. Completely different.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
2013 is more like it! -
Great fear mongering as always. Like how she said "steal the seat." How can you steal the seat that the Constitution allows you to fill? This is just groveling because you lost. Fuck off cuntbag.incremetal_progress said:
They aren't going to attack the individual, they are actually for once being smart and talking about what the court is going to do.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPKJMHkjcI&t=29s
70% don't want to overturn Roe, about the same don't want the ACA's protections repealed. -
Is this the same Bitch promising to break over 200 years of Supreme Court precedent?incremetal_progress said:
They aren't going to attack the individual, they are actually for once being smart and talking about what the court is going to do.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPKJMHkjcI&t=29s
70% don't want to overturn Roe, about the same don't want the ACA's protections repealed.
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You can attack her personally and quibble with some of her remarks but the message on healthcare is direct and devastating.
Yes the republicans got the SCOTUS supermajority liberals feared greatly, congratulations it's devastating. But it's also not going to play well in November, both things are true. -
I don’t give a shit about Roe, it’s overrated completely to fool people on the Left and Right,but if it’s repealed, all it does is transfer abortion law to the states. If some states want to ban it and you want abortions nearby, move if it’s so important.incremetal_progress said:
They aren't going to attack the individual, they are actually for once being smart and talking about what the court is going to do.Houhusky said:
Im not really sure pushing through a supreme court nominee even moves the voting needle at all at this point. The people who pay attention at all have already decided, the people who are mouth breathing morons wont even see this through the miasma of other shit unless they pull some Kavanaugh assassination shit. They wont be able to as cleanly attack a woman, Catholic or Cuban or whatever.greenblood said:
It’s over...incremetal_progress said:
Right holding the senate is the only difference. Under those circumstances yes it helped Trump because because Evangelical Christians were otherwise a weakness for him.thechatch said:doogie said:Or?
Right. Trump is not an outgoing POTUS, and he holds the Senate.incremetal_progress said:
The circumstances could not be less similar to 2016. But I get it, 2016, 2016, 2016.NorthwestFresh said:
Not confirming Merrick Garland sure cost the GOP greatly in 2016.incremetal_progress said:The GOP is gonna seat the justice no matter what and I don't see how it doesn't lose them the election spectacularly. Biden is just gonna keep talking about the Obamacare case until November and how Trump is gonna take away healthcare during a pandemic, elect me to save the healthcare law I literally helped pass.
Court packing won't happen, Biden/Harris are going to have to grow some balls and actively go against the court on certain things. The precedent Trump has set is if the senate isn't going to convict you then you can really do whatever you want.
As usual, you Leftists are overplaying your hand by talking about impeaching Barr and Trump and packing SCOTUS with extra judges. Ginsburg should have retired in 2013 with Obama as President and Dem control of the Senate. She gambled on Hillary winning
In 2016 and we’ve had 4 years of her falling asleep and being in and out of the hospital because she lost the bet.
Under 2020 circumstances where evangelicals and conservatives are already rabidly for him and it's still not enough to win, this does not help him.
Good luck winning an election while jamming through a justice who will completely throw out the ACA in just months, completely upending healthcare for millions during a pandemic that he is doing nothing about. Seriously, good luck with that.
The purpose for Trumps second term was to transform the Supreme Court. He’s going to do it in term 1. I think he still wins, but even if he doesn’t, it’s fodder at this point. The war is over, as the Supreme Court is conservative for the next 20 years. Losers lose, and winners win.
The other factor is enthusiasm; A successful court nominee would certainly galvanize the right with Trump and I would imagine be pretty demoralizing to the left, it removes one of the "benefits" of voting for Biden and the outrage meter has already been cranked up to 11 for years, I highly doubt they are motivating new people to be outraged over this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPKJMHkjcI&t=29s
70% don't want to overturn Roe, about the same don't want the ACA's protections repealed.