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Here it is ... Pac-12 Football Unity Demands

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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,347 Founders Club

    The basic story on college football is that the NFL and Players Union have agreed to maximize the revenue for the league owners and largely black players. That agreement includes rookie salary caps, three year wait after high school to join the union, a 53 man active squad plus a 12 member practice squad and revenue sharing and a hard salary cap. The NFL has tried a minor league team. It failed. So, assuming the end of the three year post high school rule, for the really small number of 18-20 year olds that could make the league, for every player that makes the league, a veteran player is cut. On an overall basis, nothing changes. No more money to players and potentially less as college football is negatively impacted and less fans will follow their favorite college players to the NFL. The NFL draft makes millions with a lot of attention from college fans following the draft. The NFL draft is incredibly impactful because the players drafted are ready to play. Drafting 18 year olds who nobody has seen play isn't exciting.

    The myth is that the NFL is taking money out of the hands of potential black players. That's true, but then veteran players (who are largely black) have money taken away from them. This isn't the man keeping blacks down.

    Fucking spot on Quook.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,347 Founders Club

    The basic story on college football is that the NFL and Players Union have agreed to maximize the revenue for the league owners and largely black players. That agreement includes rookie salary caps, three year wait after high school to join the union, a 53 man active squad plus a 12 member practice squad and revenue sharing and a hard salary cap. The NFL has tried a minor league team. It failed. So, assuming the end of the three year post high school rule, for the really small number of 18-20 year olds that could make the league, for every player that makes the league, a veteran player is cut. On an overall basis, nothing changes. No more money to players and potentially less as college football is negatively impacted and less fans will follow their favorite college players to the NFL. The NFL draft makes millions with a lot of attention from college fans following the draft. The NFL draft is incredibly impactful because the players drafted are ready to play. Drafting 18 year olds who nobody has seen play isn't exciting.

    The myth is that the NFL is taking money out of the hands of potential black players. That's true, but then veteran players (who are largely black) have money taken away from them. This isn't the man keeping blacks down.

    It's almost like the current works pretty well for "social justice"- i.e., NFL maximizes earnings potential for athletes with pro caliber talent, and the other 98% get a free college education with greatly enhances earning for non pro sports guys. Or we could just tell the latter to fuck off and do the NFL farm system.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    The players need a minor league separate from college. Part of transforming America. Time for a change

    I'm with them. Divorce football and universities.

    Enter the workforce for the NFL minor league

    You mean like the XFL? Or the AAF? Or NFL Europe?

    No one cares about JV football unless it has a college name attached to it. Buckeye alums and their money won't care if some kid in Ohio goes to play for the Columbus JV team.
    The fact that no one will care about minor league football doesn't mean minor league football shouldn't replace college football. It needs to happen. We've lost our way.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    jecornel said:

    I’m reading in the news that economy is going to collapse. Who can afford two tickets, a beer and a shitty hot dog?

    All these demands won’t matter because we will all be in bread lines.

    I can actually afford it.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,430 Founders Club
    Houhusky said:

    Entertainers not understanding that they are beholden to the irrational expenditure of dollars while living well above their respective peers and often their paying fans is so fucking irritating...

    If you are a college athlete you have exponentially more resources thrown at you, before, during and after graduation than some nobody GRINDING through school that got in because they got good grades in high school... The disparity is even more pronounced at large 45K student schools like UW.

    Playing football is voluntary, the practical value created is minimal, the compensation already places you far above your peers...

    STFU and be happy that humans are irrational enough to give you resources rather than appropriating funds from a voluntary sporting event that gives you free housing, healthcare, food, personal training, tutoring, tuition, and give it to the Biomedical Engineering student studying Cell-Free Protein Synthesis that will create anti viral nanomachines someday instead.

    Its hard to imagine a NFL minor league program that doesnt end up looking a lot like some Last Chance U dystopia shit... but instead its for everyone rather than for the 1% that couldnt get their shit together.


    This motherfucker smaht.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,889
    Swaye said:

    Houhusky said:

    Entertainers not understanding that they are beholden to the irrational expenditure of dollars while living well above their respective peers and often their paying fans is so fucking irritating...

    If you are a college athlete you have exponentially more resources thrown at you, before, during and after graduation than some nobody GRINDING through school that got in because they got good grades in high school... The disparity is even more pronounced at large 45K student schools like UW.

    Playing football is voluntary, the practical value created is minimal, the compensation already places you far above your peers...

    STFU and be happy that humans are irrational enough to give you resources rather than appropriating funds from a voluntary sporting event that gives you free housing, healthcare, food, personal training, tutoring, tuition, and give it to the Biomedical Engineering student studying Cell-Free Protein Synthesis that will create anti viral nanomachines someday instead.

    Its hard to imagine a NFL minor league program that doesnt end up looking a lot like some Last Chance U dystopia shit... but instead its for everyone rather than for the 1% that couldnt get their shit together.


    This motherfucker a racist pig.
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