The players need a minor league separate from college. Part of transforming America. Time for a change
I'm with them. Divorce football and universities.
Enter the workforce for the NFL minor league
You mean like the XFL? Or the AAF? Or NFL Europe?
No one cares about JV football unless it has a college name attached to it. Buckeye alums and their money won't care if some kid in Ohio goes to play for the Columbus JV team.
@Tequila, thanks for an honest attempt at breaking down the demands instead of automatically dismissing reasonable requests. Obviously, not all scholarship sports will stay viable under a revenue share split. The college model is broken the players bring in significantly more than their scholarships at Power 5 school. That’s a fact it can’t be argued. There is a problem when everyone accepts mostly white coaches making 9.1 million per season while exploiting primarily African American/ Brown players is disturbing and follows American History. They are not spoiled they are part of a multi billion dollar industry where they are the product responsible for the billions.
Appreciate it
The NCAA model has a lot of broken elements to it ... but for all the oppression that I hear about I don't often hear about those situations where you see people that attend a school like UW solely because of their athletic ability and are able to take advantage of the opportunities given to them. So it cuts both ways in my mind.
As long as Title IX is in place, we're going to always have an issue of revenue generating sports subsidizing non-revenue sports. Not sure what the solution for that is within the context of Title IX.
There's a study that was shared with me on Twitter that talked primarily about football and men's basketball where the numbers were somewhere around the range of 47% of D1 football players and 55% of D1 men's hoops players are African American. I don't want to downplay exploitation of athletes (there's a lot to unpack in that), but how much of that exploitation is tied to skin color I struggle with. From a numbers standpoint I can understand it in terms of population of athletes vs population in general. On the other hand, I do think that we're quick right now to call out all the ills and wrongs to something without also acknowledging the things that are good about something. Goes to what I was talking about above. I can easily rattle off a number of people that I know that fall into those categories. It's one of the reasons that I'm really interested in seeing players being able to leverage their image and likeness. The risk to that though is that what you're going to find is that only those that are essentially starters/stars are going to generate a ton of $$$ and the rank/file of a team likely won't generate much in the way of income.
Your comment on coaches is definitely something that is true to a certain degree at both the college and professional level. However, when it comes to salaries of coaches there's a question to me of how much of it is market rate driven and it's important to keep in mind what market rate is. It's not an area that I'd really recommend the players spend a ton of time going after because there is a benefit to them to have high caliber coaches in place to help develop them both on and off the field.
There are slippery slopes on both sides of things ... they are good conversations to have. But there are also hard conversations that will result and may require hearing things that people don't want to hear on both sides of things.
The players need a minor league separate from college. Part of transforming America. Time for a change
I'm with them. Divorce football and universities.
Enter the workforce for the NFL minor league
You mean like the XFL? Or the AAF? Or NFL Europe?
No one cares about JV football unless it has a college name attached to it. Buckeye alums and their money won't care if some kid in Ohio goes to play for the Columbus JV team.
Not my problem. Its what the players want. It will save most schools a lot of money
Pac-12 Football Unity Demands To Protect and Benefit Both Scholarship and Walk-On Athletes
I. Health & Safety Protections COVID-19 Protections
Allow option not to play during the pandemic without losing athletics eligibility or spot on our team’s roster. Prohibit/void COVID-19 agreements that waive liability.
Mandatory Safety Standards, Including COVID-19 Measures
Player-approved health and safety standards enforced by a third party selected by players to address COVID-19, as well as serious injury, abuse and death.
II. Protect All Sports Preserve All Existing Sports by Eliminating Excessive Expenditures
Larry Scott, administrators, and coaches to voluntarily and drastically reduce excessive pay. End performance/academic bonuses. End lavish facility expenditures and use some endowment funds to preserve all sports.*
*As an example, Stanford University should reinstate all sports discontinued by tapping into their $27.7 billion endowment. III. End Racial Injustice in College Sports and Society
Form a permanent civic-engagement task force made up of our leaders, experts of our choice, and university and conference administrators to address outstanding issues such as racial injustice in college sports and in society. In partnership with the Pac-12, 2% of conference revenue would be directed by players to support financial aid for low-income Black students, community initiatives, and development programs for college athletes on each campus. Form annual Pac-12 Black College Athlete Summit with guaranteed representation of at least three athletes of our choice from every school.
IV. Economic Freedom and Equity Guaranteed Medical Expense Coverage
Medical insurance selected by players for sports-related medical conditions, including COVID- 19 illness, to cover six years after college athletics eligibility ends.
Name, Image, and Likeness Rights & Representation
The freedom to secure representation, receive basic necessities from any third party, and earn money for use of our name, image, and likeness rights.
Fair Market Pay, Rights, & Freedoms
Distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports. Six-year athletic scholarships to foster undergraduate and graduate degree completion. Elimination of all policies and practices restricting or deterring our freedom of speech, our ability to fully participate in charitable work, and our freedom to participate in campus activities outside of mandatory athletics participation. Ability of players of all sports to transfer one time without punishment, and additionally in cases of abuse or serious negligence. Ability to complete eligibility after participating in a pro draft if player goes undrafted and foregoes professional participation within seven days of the draft. Due process rights
Fuck you ya little bitches - you want to distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports? GET FUCKED!! These fucking retards have no concept of operational expenses. They have no concept of profit margin, how thin they are and that most universities are operating athletics in the red.
I can and have been doing well without these stupid fuckers. Haven't given a shit about who the QB will be, how our 100% new secondary will hold up - just don't fucking care.
Been doing fine poundin the wives, bike riding, running and watching Netflix.
Fuck you - shut it down, go home, don't want to watch you entitled mother fuckers running around thinking your imagined oppressed shit don't stink.
If this had emerged unto itself a few years ago, my take on it would have been different.
But right now, August 2020, my immediate suspicion is that Marxists are behind this and the revenue will be funneled to BLM, which is not going to actually help black people, but rather to fund the anti-capitalist, anti-west Marxist agenda. This is part of a full-on assault of America. If the Pac12 resists, they will be threatened with hell to pay.
The players need a minor league separate from college. Part of transforming America. Time for a change
I'm with them. Divorce football and universities.
Enter the workforce for the NFL minor league
You mean like the XFL? Or the AAF? Or NFL Europe?
No one cares about JV football unless it has a college name attached to it. Buckeye alums and their money won't care if some kid in Ohio goes to play for the Columbus JV team.
Not my problem. Its what the players want. It will save most schools a lot of money
I stand with Race. We need to go the way of the MLB now more than ever.
The entire point of running a big Tim Power 5 Athletic Department is about a hell of lot more divvying up revenue between football players and coaching staffs. And for those players who are good enough to earn a living playing football, the college model does a pretty damn good job of setting them up for career success. And for the 98% who are not (good enough for the pros) the college degree is worth a lot more than spending a year or two in some shitty NFL farm system.
But if the kids don't want to play school, then fine by me. Have the NFL start drafting HS kids and get this minor league up an running. We can stop the "exploitation" right away.
Obviously other points have been addressed, but I want to go through the financial part again. Distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports. No. I will get into this more later, but the idea here seems to be athletes get paid what they are worth.
The counterpoint to this is “But the scholarships!” This is a fair point. The estimated value of a 4 year scholarship is like 800-900k. When you take into account tutoring, the cancellation of debt, the connections you make as an athletic alum - it’s very very valuable, which most people don’t realize.
50 percent of revenue is a very high number. For most schools, 2 sports turn a profit. Should those 2 get the profits created by them taken to be distributed among athletes playing non-money sports?
A fairer point would be to ask for accounting of each program’s revenue and a distribution on a program by program basis off of a certain percentage of revenue - say, 25% of that sport’s margin. So, if football pulls a 6 million profit and there are 85 kids on scholarship, you split 1.5 million between 85 kids (that’s a fuckton of money for those kids). It’s not a perfect solution but it’s better than literal socialism (the redistribution of revenues equally to all no matter the revenue they actually generated).
Six-year athletic scholarships to foster undergraduate and graduate degree completion.
I don’t think all scholarships should be 6 years. Lasting until the completion of undergrad makes sense, because it can sometimes take 5 years, but it should be no longer than that. This is a big strain on schools if it’s in all sports. Only revenue sports can profitably maintain this. That’s the problem here. The golf team doesn’t have the money to hand out 6 year scholarships without reducing the number of kids they already have.
Elimination of all policies and practices restricting or deterring our freedom of speech, our ability to fully participate in charitable work, and our freedom to participate in campus activities outside of mandatory athletics participation.
I don’t really see the problem with letting players speak their minds, but this shouldn’t be a universal thing. Let each school handle this. If they don’t want to give their kids this, fine, those kids can go somewhere else. Schools will be forced into this anyway in a roundabout way by the others who are doing it, since no recruit will go play where everyone says it’s like being coached by a tyrant in comparison to the others. Schools can handle this individually. If they don’t listen to their players - well, the players can transfer, or they shouldn’t have played for a coach that is like that. If it’s a new coach, again, there’s the transfer rule.
Ability of players of all sports to transfer one time without punishment, and additionally in cases of abuse or serious negligence.
Yes. Make sure to do minor regulations so that “abuse” isn’t just no playing time. This one is pretty simple and it benefits everyone.
Ability to complete eligibility after participating in a pro draft if player goes undrafted and foregoes professional participation within seven days of the draft.
This is a yes. Players often get advised horribly and enter the draft when they shouldn’t. Now, the problem could arise where players enter the draft more frequently knowing they have a fallback, but I think this is more important by the guys who got hung out to dry (hi hunter!).
The players need a minor league separate from college. Part of transforming America. Time for a change
I'm with them. Divorce football and universities.
Enter the workforce for the NFL minor league
You mean like the XFL? Or the AAF? Or NFL Europe?
No one cares about JV football unless it has a college name attached to it. Buckeye alums and their money won't care if some kid in Ohio goes to play for the Columbus JV team.
Not my problem. Its what the players want. It will save most schools a lot of money
I stand with Race. We need to go the way of the MLB now more than ever.
The entire point of running a big Tim Power 5 Athletic Department is about a hell of lot more divvying up revenue between football players and coaching staffs. And for those players who are good enough to earn a living playing football, the college model does a pretty damn good job of setting them up for career success. And for the 98% who are not (good enough for the pros) the college degree is worth a lot more than spending a year or two in some shitty NFL farm system.
But if the kids don't want to play school, then fine by me. Have the NFL start drafting HS kids and get this minor league up an running. We can stop the "exploitation" right away.
We can't get rid of title 9 and it is fiscally irresponsible for UW or other state schools to take on 85 football player employees every year with the liability that comes along. The big issues don't change on campus. If the model is broken and exploitive I'm not going to be the old guy yelling we have to keep it
We don't.
The transfer stuff is all fixable.
College football is not going to be the junior NFL. It just isn't. That's the decision the players need to make. All of them including the guys who aren't going pro
The players need a minor league separate from college. Part of transforming America. Time for a change
I'm with them. Divorce football and universities.
Enter the workforce for the NFL minor league
You mean like the XFL? Or the AAF? Or NFL Europe?
No one cares about JV football unless it has a college name attached to it. Buckeye alums and their money won't care if some kid in Ohio goes to play for the Columbus JV team.
Not my problem. Its what the players want. It will save most schools a lot of money
I stand with Race and YellowSnow here, too - create a football/basketball entity branded by university - “University of Washington Football LLC”
Players are effectively employees of the club, paid a salary and performance bonus (maybe even small amount of equity) - hired based on football merit, academics not really important. Some clubs might offer scholarship elements as part of the package, and/or discounts on same, or none at all - all negotiable. Goal is to be profitable and be net distributor of funds back into university at some level. Clubs would have given Larry Scott the hard pass on the existing TV deal because few to none would the crutch of the university’s general fund to keep for example Oregon States athletics solvent while paying Babushka $1m+ a season. Clubs also in theory would have stronger leverage with conferences being self-contained and not necessarily tied to the conference structure of remaining non rev gen sports. NFL could get involved here financially as well, too, if it made sense.
Play in the same stadiums as before leased from university, with the same set of players, can’t imagine quality changes much, unless you have terrible leadership of your football club and therefore don’t get good players. I don’t see much of a downside unless you truly despise the players and love the status quo as run by people like Emmert and Champagne Larry (which is more on this bored than I may have thought)
The players need a minor league separate from college. Part of transforming America. Time for a change
I'm with them. Divorce football and universities.
Enter the workforce for the NFL minor league
You mean like the XFL? Or the AAF? Or NFL Europe?
No one cares about JV football unless it has a college name attached to it. Buckeye alums and their money won't care if some kid in Ohio goes to play for the Columbus JV team.
Not my problem. Its what the players want. It will save most schools a lot of money
I stand with Race and YellowSnow here, too - create a football/basketball entity branded by university - “University of Washington Football LLC”
Players are effectively employees of the club, paid a salary and performance bonus (maybe even small amount of equity) - hired based on football merit, academics not really important. Some clubs might offer scholarship elements as part of the package, and/or discounts on same, or none at all - all negotiable. Goal is to be profitable and be net distributor of funds back into university at some level. Clubs would have given Larry Scott the hard pass on the existing TV deal because few to none would the crutch of the university’s general fund to keep for example Oregon States athletics solvent while paying Babushka $1m+ a season. Clubs also in theory would have stronger leverage with conferences being self-contained and not necessarily tied to the conference structure of remaining non rev gen sports. NFL could get involved here financially as well, too, if it made sense.
Play in the same stadiums as before leased from university, with the same set of players, can’t imagine quality changes much, unless you have terrible leadership of your football club and therefore don’t get good players. I don’t see much of a downside unless you truly despise the players and love the status quo as run by people like Emmert and Champagne Larry (which is more on this bored than I may have thought)
I don't think that's what Race is suggesting here. I think what we're saying is go create the NFL minor leagues, and we'll keep our? UW college program for guys that don't want to go that route. College Football is an amateur sport and it should stay that way. If you want to turn pro after HS then go do it. If you don't go to college and try to get drafted after graduation. Let the market sort it out.
I'd get rid of college sports altogether at that point. No one cares about college baseball and they care less every year about basketball because the stars aren't playing
Football would probably lose the interest as well. At that point why spend the money when the Covid revenue crunch is coming anyway
I'd get rid of college sports altogether at that point. No one cares about college baseball and they care less every year about basketball because the stars aren't playing
Football would probably lose the interest as well. At that point why spend the money when the Covid revenue crunch is coming anyway
That works too. We can back to the era of rowboat only of college sports. 1852 here we come!
The players need a minor league separate from college. Part of transforming America. Time for a change
I'm with them. Divorce football and universities.
Enter the workforce for the NFL minor league
You mean like the XFL? Or the AAF? Or NFL Europe?
No one cares about JV football unless it has a college name attached to it. Buckeye alums and their money won't care if some kid in Ohio goes to play for the Columbus JV team.
Not my problem. Its what the players want. It will save most schools a lot of money
I stand with Race and YellowSnow here, too - create a football/basketball entity branded by university - “University of Washington Football LLC”
Players are effectively employees of the club, paid a salary and performance bonus (maybe even small amount of equity) - hired based on football merit, academics not really important. Some clubs might offer scholarship elements as part of the package, and/or discounts on same, or none at all - all negotiable. Goal is to be profitable and be net distributor of funds back into university at some level. Clubs would have given Larry Scott the hard pass on the existing TV deal because few to none would the crutch of the university’s general fund to keep for example Oregon States athletics solvent while paying Babushka $1m+ a season. Clubs also in theory would have stronger leverage with conferences being self-contained and not necessarily tied to the conference structure of remaining non rev gen sports. NFL could get involved here financially as well, too, if it made sense.
Play in the same stadiums as before leased from university, with the same set of players, can’t imagine quality changes much, unless you have terrible leadership of your football club and therefore don’t get good players. I don’t see much of a downside unless you truly despise the players and love the status quo as run by people like Emmert and Champagne Larry (which is more on this bored than I may have thought)
I don't think that's what Race is suggesting here. I think what we're saying is go create the NFL minor leagues, and we'll keep our? UW college program for guys that don't want to go that route. College Football is an amateur sport and it should stay that way. If you want to turn pro after HS then go do it. If you don't go to college and try to get drafted after graduation. Let the market sort it out.
Ah
I’m not averse to that, either, but wonder what the revenue model would be for both entities. The difference between current and “devoid of top talent” CFB is likely non-negligible, and the revenue on NFL minor league is probably pretty low, given what we know about xfl, nfl Europe, etc.. Feels like a lot of equity gets lost with that cutover, especially as the NFL isn’t likely ready to present a compelling minor league value proposition to players right away.
Having a side entity continuing to deliver nearly the same game quality and nearly the same revenue while meeting some or many of the demands might be a good intermediate state - dunno
Pac-12 Football Unity Demands To Protect and Benefit Both Scholarship and Walk-On Athletes
I. Health & Safety Protections COVID-19 Protections
Allow option not to play during the pandemic without losing athletics eligibility or spot on our team’s roster. Prohibit/void COVID-19 agreements that waive liability.
Mandatory Safety Standards, Including COVID-19 Measures
Player-approved health and safety standards enforced by a third party selected by players to address COVID-19, as well as serious injury, abuse and death.
II. Protect All Sports Preserve All Existing Sports by Eliminating Excessive Expenditures
Larry Scott, administrators, and coaches to voluntarily and drastically reduce excessive pay. End performance/academic bonuses. End lavish facility expenditures and use some endowment funds to preserve all sports.*
*As an example, Stanford University should reinstate all sports discontinued by tapping into their $27.7 billion endowment. III. End Racial Injustice in College Sports and Society
Form a permanent civic-engagement task force made up of our leaders, experts of our choice, and university and conference administrators to address outstanding issues such as racial injustice in college sports and in society. In partnership with the Pac-12, 2% of conference revenue would be directed by players to support financial aid for low-income Black students, community initiatives, and development programs for college athletes on each campus. Form annual Pac-12 Black College Athlete Summit with guaranteed representation of at least three athletes of our choice from every school.
IV. Economic Freedom and Equity Guaranteed Medical Expense Coverage
Medical insurance selected by players for sports-related medical conditions, including COVID- 19 illness, to cover six years after college athletics eligibility ends.
Name, Image, and Likeness Rights & Representation
The freedom to secure representation, receive basic necessities from any third party, and earn money for use of our name, image, and likeness rights.
Fair Market Pay, Rights, & Freedoms
Distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports. Six-year athletic scholarships to foster undergraduate and graduate degree completion. Elimination of all policies and practices restricting or deterring our freedom of speech, our ability to fully participate in charitable work, and our freedom to participate in campus activities outside of mandatory athletics participation. Ability of players of all sports to transfer one time without punishment, and additionally in cases of abuse or serious negligence. Ability to complete eligibility after participating in a pro draft if player goes undrafted and foregoes professional participation within seven days of the draft. Due process rights
Fuck you ya little bitches - you want to distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports? GET FUCKED!! These fucking retards have no concept of operational expenses. They have no concept of profit margin, how thin they are and that most universities are operating athletics in the red.
I can and have been doing well without these stupid fuckers. Haven't given a shit about who the QB will be, how our 100% new secondary will hold up - just don't fucking care.
Been doing fine poundin the wives, bike riding, running and watching Netflix.
Fuck you - shut it down, go home, don't want to watch you entitled mother fuckers running around thinking your imagined oppressed shit don't stink.
If this had emerged unto itself a few years ago, my take on it would have been different.
But right now, August 2020, my immediate suspicion is that Marxists are behind this and the revenue will be funneled to BLM, which is not going to actually help black people, but rather to fund the anti-capitalist, anti-west Marxist agenda. This is part of a full-on assault of America. If the Pac12 resists, they will be threatened with hell to pay.
I need a number of your drug dealer, hook a broda from green lake up
The players need a minor league separate from college. Part of transforming America. Time for a change
I'm with them. Divorce football and universities.
Enter the workforce for the NFL minor league
I agree. I'm over it anyway. Just let it die. It was fun while it lasted for 150 years. Now we need transformation. Who wants to cheer for college athletes that are paid employees? Just make the football D league and be done with it.
If this had emerged unto itself a few years ago, my take on it would have been different.
But right now, August 2020, my immediate suspicion is that Marxists are behind this and the revenue will be funneled to BLM, which is not going to actually help black people, but rather to fund the anti-capitalist, anti-west Marxist agenda. This is part of a full-on assault of America. If the Pac12 resists, they will be threatened with hell to pay.
This take is up there with the qanon psychos who think trump is secretly killing celebrities and replacing them with clones.
I have no idea how you get from players wanting to share in the value they create and have health & safety standards to... Marxist plot? Wut?
Someone has the players' ears and is guiding them along. I have no doubt about it.
Its the same reaction I received when I said that Pete had burned out and worked a secret deal with Jen and Jimmy Lake for Jimmy to take over. That's okay. At some point articles will come out connecting the dots.
If this had emerged unto itself a few years ago, my take on it would have been different.
But right now, August 2020, my immediate suspicion is that Marxists are behind this and the revenue will be funneled to BLM, which is not going to actually help black people, but rather to fund the anti-capitalist, anti-west Marxist agenda. This is part of a full-on assault of America. If the Pac12 resists, they will be threatened with hell to pay.
This take is up there with the qanon psychos who think trump is secretly killing celebrities and replacing them with clones.
I have no idea how you get from players wanting to share in the value they create and have health & safety standards to... Marxist plot? Wut?
Someone has the players' ears and is guiding them along. I have no doubt about it.
Its the same reaction I received when I said that Pete had burned out and worked a secret deal with Jen and Jimmy Lake for Jimmy to take over. That's okay. At some point articles will come out connecting the dots.
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No one cares about JV football unless it has a college name attached to it. Buckeye alums and their money won't care if some kid in Ohio goes to play for the Columbus JV team.
The NCAA model has a lot of broken elements to it ... but for all the oppression that I hear about I don't often hear about those situations where you see people that attend a school like UW solely because of their athletic ability and are able to take advantage of the opportunities given to them. So it cuts both ways in my mind.
As long as Title IX is in place, we're going to always have an issue of revenue generating sports subsidizing non-revenue sports. Not sure what the solution for that is within the context of Title IX.
There's a study that was shared with me on Twitter that talked primarily about football and men's basketball where the numbers were somewhere around the range of 47% of D1 football players and 55% of D1 men's hoops players are African American. I don't want to downplay exploitation of athletes (there's a lot to unpack in that), but how much of that exploitation is tied to skin color I struggle with. From a numbers standpoint I can understand it in terms of population of athletes vs population in general. On the other hand, I do think that we're quick right now to call out all the ills and wrongs to something without also acknowledging the things that are good about something. Goes to what I was talking about above. I can easily rattle off a number of people that I know that fall into those categories. It's one of the reasons that I'm really interested in seeing players being able to leverage their image and likeness. The risk to that though is that what you're going to find is that only those that are essentially starters/stars are going to generate a ton of $$$ and the rank/file of a team likely won't generate much in the way of income.
Your comment on coaches is definitely something that is true to a certain degree at both the college and professional level. However, when it comes to salaries of coaches there's a question to me of how much of it is market rate driven and it's important to keep in mind what market rate is. It's not an area that I'd really recommend the players spend a ton of time going after because there is a benefit to them to have high caliber coaches in place to help develop them both on and off the field.
There are slippery slopes on both sides of things ... they are good conversations to have. But there are also hard conversations that will result and may require hearing things that people don't want to hear on both sides of things.
The entire point of running a big Tim Power 5 Athletic Department is about a hell of lot more divvying up revenue between football players and coaching staffs. And for those players who are good enough to earn a living playing football, the college model does a pretty damn good job of setting them up for career success. And for the 98% who are not (good enough for the pros) the college degree is worth a lot more than spending a year or two in some shitty NFL farm system.
But if the kids don't want to play school, then fine by me. Have the NFL start drafting HS kids and get this minor league up an running. We can stop the "exploitation" right away.
Distribute 50% of each sport’s total conference revenue evenly among athletes in their respective sports.
No. I will get into this more later, but the idea here seems to be athletes get paid what they are worth.
The counterpoint to this is “But the scholarships!” This is a fair point. The estimated value of a 4 year scholarship is like 800-900k. When you take into account tutoring, the cancellation of debt, the connections you make as an athletic alum - it’s very very valuable, which most people don’t realize.
50 percent of revenue is a very high number. For most schools, 2 sports turn a profit. Should those 2 get the profits created by them taken to be distributed among athletes playing non-money sports?
A fairer point would be to ask for accounting of each program’s revenue and a distribution on a program by program basis off of a certain percentage of revenue - say, 25% of that sport’s margin. So, if football pulls a 6 million profit and there are 85 kids on scholarship, you split 1.5 million between 85 kids (that’s a fuckton of money for those kids). It’s not a perfect solution but it’s better than literal socialism (the redistribution of revenues equally to all no matter the revenue they actually generated).
Six-year athletic scholarships to foster undergraduate and graduate degree completion.
I don’t think all scholarships should be 6 years. Lasting until the completion of undergrad makes sense, because it can sometimes take 5 years, but it should be no longer than that. This is a big strain on schools if it’s in all sports. Only revenue sports can profitably maintain this. That’s the problem here. The golf team doesn’t have the money to hand out 6 year scholarships without reducing the number of kids they already have.
Elimination of all policies and practices restricting or deterring our freedom of speech, our ability to fully participate in charitable work, and our freedom to participate in campus activities outside of mandatory athletics participation.
I don’t really see the problem with letting players speak their minds, but this shouldn’t be a universal thing. Let each school handle this. If they don’t want to give their kids this, fine, those kids can go somewhere else. Schools will be forced into this anyway in a roundabout way by the others who are doing it, since no recruit will go play where everyone says it’s like being coached by a tyrant in comparison to the others. Schools can handle this individually. If they don’t listen to their players - well, the players can transfer, or they shouldn’t have played for a coach that is like that. If it’s a new coach, again, there’s the transfer rule.
Ability of players of all sports to transfer one time without punishment, and additionally in cases of abuse or serious negligence.
Yes. Make sure to do minor regulations so that “abuse” isn’t just no playing time. This one is pretty simple and it benefits everyone.
Ability to complete eligibility after participating in a pro draft if player goes undrafted and foregoes professional participation within seven days of the draft.
This is a yes. Players often get advised horribly and enter the draft when they shouldn’t. Now, the problem could arise where players enter the draft more frequently knowing they have a fallback, but I think this is more important by the guys who got hung out to dry (hi hunter!).
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Money
We don't.
The transfer stuff is all fixable.
College football is not going to be the junior NFL. It just isn't. That's the decision the players need to make. All of them including the guys who aren't going pro
Players are effectively employees of the club, paid a salary and performance bonus (maybe even small amount of equity) - hired based on football merit, academics not really important. Some clubs might offer scholarship elements as part of the package, and/or discounts on same, or none at all - all negotiable. Goal is to be profitable and be net distributor of funds back into university at some level. Clubs would have given Larry Scott the hard pass on the existing TV deal because few to none would the crutch of the university’s general fund to keep for example Oregon States athletics solvent while paying Babushka $1m+ a season. Clubs also in theory would have stronger leverage with conferences being self-contained and not necessarily tied to the conference structure of remaining non rev gen sports. NFL could get involved here financially as well, too, if it made sense.
Play in the same stadiums as before leased from university, with the same set of players, can’t imagine quality changes much, unless you have terrible leadership of your football club and therefore don’t get good players. I don’t see much of a downside unless you truly despise the players and love the status quo as run by people like Emmert and Champagne Larry (which is more on this bored than I may have thought)
Give up a 250k education, skip television and big crowds. Forget your instagram stardom for 10k plus followers.
Go dig ditches, teach yourself to code, go work in a meat plant.
Go for it. Playing at the farm does suck!
and what’s even worse is the bowl game swag! Total garbage!
I saw the glory years when football mattered and there was pure passion and fun.
Bye!!
Football would probably lose the interest as well. At that point why spend the money when the Covid revenue crunch is coming anyway
I’m not averse to that, either, but wonder what the revenue model would be for both entities. The difference between current and “devoid of top talent” CFB is likely non-negligible, and the revenue on NFL minor league is probably pretty low, given what we know about xfl, nfl Europe, etc.. Feels like a lot of equity gets lost with that cutover, especially as the NFL isn’t likely ready to present a compelling minor league value proposition to players right away.
Having a side entity continuing to deliver nearly the same game quality and nearly the same revenue while meeting some or many of the demands might be a good intermediate state - dunno
All these demands won’t matter because we will all be in bread lines.
Its the same reaction I received when I said that Pete had burned out and worked a secret deal with Jen and Jimmy Lake for Jimmy to take over. That's okay. At some point articles will come out connecting the dots.