People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
He said it wasn’t “optional” for him and if he didn’t fly it would be a “personal cost.” One of the biggest pieces of shits ever as he mocks millions who have lost their jobs and businesses. If ever somebody should be doxxed....
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
Needs to be a unified approach. Except if the dazzler is involved.
I can't catch the Vid if I pay someone to do this for me. Surely you approve.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
Oh, interesting. Well, I'm sure your motivations were pure. Free-thinkers like us will keep making the decisions best for us. Those travel radii are for people who don't know better anyhow.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
You said it wasn’t an option. As you laugh as local businesses in Seattle shut down forever. You’re a Fraud no matter how you spin it. A sociopathic Fraud.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
You said it wasn’t an option. As you laugh as local businesses in Seattle shut down forever. You’re a Fraud no matter how you spin it. A sociopathic Fraud.
You got it wrong. @HHusky just thinks those guys are sheeple who just go along with they're told. They don't have the fortitude to make their own decisions.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
If it didnt matter if you or one of your "little people" went then it probably didnt matter if anyone physically went there at all.
You also could have atleast driven and significantly reduced the number of people you came in contact with.
Your flights weren't essential, you just deemed it more important than the likelihood of you infecting someone else with the deadly serious Vid.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
Oh, interesting. Well, I'm sure your motivations were pure. Free-thinkers like us will keep making the decisions best for us. Those travel radii are for people who don't know better anyhow.
I just don't have the option of waiting to see whether the Midwest and the West Coast get moved closer together.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
Oh, interesting. Well, I'm sure your motivations were pure. Free-thinkers like us will keep making the decisions best for us. Those travel radii are for people who don't know better anyhow.
I just don't have the option of waiting to see whether the Midwest and the West Coast get moved closer together.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
If it didnt matter if you or one of your "little people" went then it probably didnt matter if anyone physically went there at all.
You also could have atleast driven and significantly reduced the number of people you came in contact with.
Your flights weren't essential, you just deemed it more important than the likelihood of you infecting someone else with the deadly serious Vid.
You probably don't really know anything about the matter.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
If it didnt matter if you or one of your "little people" went then it probably didnt matter if anyone physically went there at all.
You also could have atleast driven and significantly reduced the number of people you came in contact with.
Your flights weren't essential, you just deemed it more important than the likelihood of you infecting someone else with the deadly serious Vid.
You probably don't really know anything about the matter.
I know, it's weird, that someone who knows nothing about you or your situation can have any opinion on whether it's safe for you to engage in activity. I just don't understand that thinking.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
Oh, interesting. Well, I'm sure your motivations were pure. Free-thinkers like us will keep making the decisions best for us. Those travel radii are for people who don't know better anyhow.
I just don't have the option of waiting to see whether the Midwest and the West Coast get moved closer together.
Damn straight, keep free-thinking.
Chins up for your epic trolling of @HHusky in this thread. He feels it’s a real breakthrough moment. As @Houhusky said, Lionel could have driven to the Midwest to save his failing business.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
Oh, interesting. Well, I'm sure your motivations were pure. Free-thinkers like us will keep making the decisions best for us. Those travel radii are for people who don't know better anyhow.
I just don't have the option of waiting to see whether the Midwest and the West Coast get moved closer together.
Damn straight, keep free-thinking.
Chins up for your epic trolling of @HHusky in this thread. He feels it’s a real breakthrough moment. As @Houhusky said, Lionel could have driven to the Midwest to save his failing business.
@Hhusky clearly had an important task to accomplish, otherwise he wouldn't have ignored science-based guidelines. Good for him to make his own risk assessments. How he got where he was going it entirely his own affair.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
If it didnt matter if you or one of your "little people" went then it probably didnt matter if anyone physically went there at all.
You also could have atleast driven and significantly reduced the number of people you came in contact with.
Your flights weren't essential, you just deemed it more important than the likelihood of you infecting someone else with the deadly serious Vid.
You probably don't really know anything about the matter.
I know, it's weird, that someone who knows nothing about you or your situation can have any opinion on whether it's safe for you to engage in activity. I just don't understand that thinking.
More to the point, Ivan wanted a "gotcha" and leapt to conclusions.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
If it didnt matter if you or one of your "little people" went then it probably didnt matter if anyone physically went there at all.
You also could have atleast driven and significantly reduced the number of people you came in contact with.
Your flights weren't essential, you just deemed it more important than the likelihood of you infecting someone else with the deadly serious Vid.
You probably don't really know anything about the matter.
I know, it's weird, that someone who knows nothing about you or your situation can have any opinion on whether it's safe for you to engage in activity. I just don't understand that thinking.
More to the point, Ivan wanted a "gotcha" and leapt to conclusions.
Amen. There's way too much of that these days. We must have the decency to trust people to make their own decisions.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
Oh, interesting. Well, I'm sure your motivations were pure. Free-thinkers like us will keep making the decisions best for us. Those travel radii are for people who don't know better anyhow.
I just don't have the option of waiting to see whether the Midwest and the West Coast get moved closer together.
Damn straight, keep free-thinking.
Chins up for your epic trolling of @HHusky in this thread. He feels it’s a real breakthrough moment. As @Houhusky said, Lionel could have driven to the Midwest to save his failing business.
@Hhusky clearly had an important task to accomplish, otherwise he wouldn't have ignored science-based guidelines. Good for him to make his own risk assessments. How he got where he was going it entirely his own affair.
Top-notch trolling. If only I could give more than my one Chin. @HHusky feels validated now by some Rando interweb guy.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
If it didnt matter if you or one of your "little people" went then it probably didnt matter if anyone physically went there at all.
You also could have atleast driven and significantly reduced the number of people you came in contact with.
Your flights weren't essential, you just deemed it more important than the likelihood of you infecting someone else with the deadly serious Vid.
You probably don't really know anything about the matter.
I know, it's weird, that someone who knows nothing about you or your situation can have any opinion on whether it's safe for you to engage in activity. I just don't understand that thinking.
More to the point, Ivan wanted a "gotcha" and leapt to conclusions.
We must have the decency to trust people to make their own decisions.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
If it didnt matter if you or one of your "little people" went then it probably didnt matter if anyone physically went there at all.
You also could have atleast driven and significantly reduced the number of people you came in contact with.
Your flights weren't essential, you just deemed it more important than the likelihood of you infecting someone else with the deadly serious Vid.
You probably don't really know anything about the matter.
I know, it's weird, that someone who knows nothing about you or your situation can have any opinion on whether it's safe for you to engage in activity. I just don't understand that thinking.
More to the point, Ivan wanted a "gotcha" and leapt to conclusions.
We must have the decency to trust people to make their own decisions.
No. We've seen where that leads.
You’re being trolled so hard and you don’t even know it.
People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.
But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”
. . .
We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?
Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
Boris the Copy/Paste Lightweight links from an anti-Trump rag. No wonder your business is going under. Early retirement looming.
How was the article I linked an anti-Trump piece, Boris? In your own words.
What do you get as a positive about viewing employees you obviously don’t have as your “little people?” If you do, they should know they are employed by a sociopath. Guessing you view your wife as a subordinate, too.
I didn't refer to my employees as "little people". But you know better than I do whether travel is optional in my life.
Backed by science, the Governor has told his citizens to #StopTheSpread, #StayHomeStaySafe. I can't remember what the safe travel radius is, but certainly less than a commercial flight. You freely disclosed that you felt it was permissible for you to ignore those guidelines. And I defend your right to do so.
The task isn't optional. The only question is whether I do it or someone else does it.
Who gets to say whether it is or isn't optional? Many options have been proscribed from many people.
No sense arguing, we agree that individuals are best suited to make those judgments for themselves. Central planning just isn't suited for it.
If the matter I'm attending to had been proscribed, the task wouldn't have to be attended to. But it wasn't, so someone has to accomplish the task.
Legally, perhaps not. You did, however, go against Inslee's science-backed guidelines meant to keep us safe. I won't tell, like you, I think he's kinda full of shit too. I didn't wear a mask until it was legally mandated, just like you, I'm sure.
I think Jay and I are okay. Wearing a mask is just common sense and I'm not traveling unnecessarily.
If it didnt matter if you or one of your "little people" went then it probably didnt matter if anyone physically went there at all.
You also could have atleast driven and significantly reduced the number of people you came in contact with.
Your flights weren't essential, you just deemed it more important than the likelihood of you infecting someone else with the deadly serious Vid.
You probably don't really know anything about the matter.
I know, it's weird, that someone who knows nothing about you or your situation can have any opinion on whether it's safe for you to engage in activity. I just don't understand that thinking.
More to the point, Ivan wanted a "gotcha" and leapt to conclusions.
We must have the decency to trust people to make their own decisions.
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You also could have atleast driven and significantly reduced the number of people you came in contact with.
Your flights weren't essential, you just deemed it more important than the likelihood of you infecting someone else with the deadly serious Vid.