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  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    The most expedient way to stop Covid 1984 in the United States:

    - Burn the UN Building in New York and expel the United Nations
    - Burn CDC Headquarters
    - Burn the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
    - Burn the Headquarters of CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and the rest of the MSM Propaganda Outlets
    - Burn Google Headquarters
    - Burn Facebook Headquarters
    - Burn Twitter Headquarters
    - Torch the Offices, Businesses and Residences of the State Governors
    - Mass Arrests and Deportations to Guantanamo of Federal, State and Local Government Officials


    seems a tad extreme
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,605 Standard Supporter

    The most expedient way to stop Covid 1984 in the United States:

    - Burn the UN Building in New York and expel the United Nations
    - Burn CDC Headquarters
    - Burn the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
    - Burn the Headquarters of CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and the rest of the MSM Propaganda Outlets
    - Burn Google Headquarters
    - Burn Facebook Headquarters
    - Burn Twitter Headquarters
    - Torch the Offices, Businesses and Residences of the State Governors
    - Mass Arrests and Deportations to Guantanamo of Federal, State and Local Government Officials


    You forgot about 5g towers
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    I blame Trump. The article points out that associating cases with deaths is a poor comparisons, largely because of poor testing. But, according to the dazzler its all about cases. If so, Trump is doing pretty well even with the self-goal of Cuomo infecting the nursing homes as a target rich environment.

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/07/16/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-fatality-rate-n610264


    I guess there's some rationale buried in this for having no national response to a virus that has killed 141,000 Americans, so far.
    Things were trending well before "the peaceful protests." But you already know that. Which is why you don't mention it.
    I'm sure the protests have contributed to the problem. Your suggestion that the resurgence is chiefly due to the protests is laughable, however.
    How do you explain the resurgence in California that despite your lies never opened up?
    I was there in June. Some restaurants and bars were open. They also had thousands protesting everyday for a week so blaming it on opening up is FS.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,182 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    I blame Trump. The article points out that associating cases with deaths is a poor comparisons, largely because of poor testing. But, according to the dazzler its all about cases. If so, Trump is doing pretty well even with the self-goal of Cuomo infecting the nursing homes as a target rich environment.

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/07/16/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-fatality-rate-n610264


    I guess there's some rationale buried in this for having no national response to a virus that has killed 141,000 Americans, so far.
    Someone has to be the insensitive realist here, so I'll bite. Half or more of the people dying are those who would die of natural causes or some other underlying illness within a year or two, anyways. Not to mention bs deaths attributed to COVID. Your 141,000 number is not what you claim it to be.


  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    HHusky said:

    I blame Trump. The article points out that associating cases with deaths is a poor comparisons, largely because of poor testing. But, according to the dazzler its all about cases. If so, Trump is doing pretty well even with the self-goal of Cuomo infecting the nursing homes as a target rich environment.

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/07/16/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-the-united-states-coronavirus-case-fatality-rate-n610264


    I guess there's some rationale buried in this for having no national response to a virus that has killed 141,000 Americans, so far.
    Half or more of the people dying are those who would die of natural causes or some other underlying illness within a year or two, anyways.


    That’s probably true of the seasonal flu as well then. Yet we don’t routinely lose 141,000 people to the seasonal flu. And the flu is over by this time of year. We’re racking up 70,000 new Covid cases and 800-1,000 deaths every day and right now. And we just had a typical flu year as well.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,784 Founders Club
    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,784 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,712 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2020
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
    They get money for the China Virus not the flu. Also most of the hot spots are controlled by a certain party. They want to hurt Trump. Win, win for them. HTH
  • NorthwestFresh
    NorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
    Like this one?

    You guys are just making things up now to keep the hoax rolling. Now ignore this and run along, Lionel.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/coronavirus/phil-murphy-new-jersey-deaths-jobs-coronavirus/2446345/?amp

    New Jersey Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy says nearly 1,900 people likely died of COVID-19 in New Jersey but were not initially counted in the state’s death toll.

    At a Thursday news conference, Murphy said those deaths will now be counted in the death toll.

    Murphy says state health officials recently completed a review of thousands of death certificates of people who died with coronavirus symptoms despite not having been tested. He says those people likely died from COVID-19.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,784 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    What part of that is beyond your limited comprehension?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
    They get money for the China Virus not the flu. HTH

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    What part of that is beyond your limited comprehension?
    We routinely estimate flu dead, Madam.

    The fact we didn't do this with Covid simply shows how much of an undercount we actually have.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,784 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
    They get money for the China Virus not the flu. HTH

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    What part of that is beyond your limited comprehension?
    We routinely estimate flu dead, Madam.

    The fact we didn't do this with Covid simply shows how much of an undercount we actually have.
    Almost got it. So close

    Yes we estimate lu deaths AFTER the flu season hence the we don't run a fake tote board comment that you found so hard to decipher. Never have

    So an estimate could be low or high annually on the flu

    We know that covid deaths are over counted as this very thread shows to people that don't have their head up their ass. And we have this running tote bored filled with those bad numbers

    Again, that would be the running tote board that we never had before

    Hope this helps but I'm pretty sure you're too fucking stupid to get it yet
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
    They get money for the China Virus not the flu. HTH

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    What part of that is beyond your limited comprehension?
    We routinely estimate flu dead, Madam.

    The fact we didn't do this with Covid simply shows how much of an undercount we actually have.
    Almost got it. So close

    Yes we estimate lu deaths AFTER the flu season hence the we don't run a fake tote board comment that you found so hard to decipher. Never have

    So an estimate could be low or high annually on the flu

    We know that covid deaths are over counted as this very thread shows to people that don't have their head up their ass. And we have this running tote bored filled with those bad numbers

    Again, that would be the running tote board that we never had before

    Hope this helps but I'm pretty sure you're too fucking stupid to get it yet
    I just can't decide whether to believe doctors and coroners or various poasters who got Cs in high school science and math.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter
    If you die with an H1N1 flu in 2020 and there is no test then it is a chicom crud death. Because.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    If you die with an H1N1 flu in 2020 and there is no test then it is a chicom crud death. Because.

    Even assuming your conspiracy theory held water, you haven't explained why between flu and Covid we have 170,000+ deaths (and counting) this year.

    I know. I know. "Not unprecedented 'cuz 1957!"

    In a few more months you'll need to start using "Not unprecedented 'cuz 1918!"
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    If you die with an H1N1 flu in 2020 and there is no test then it is a chicom crud death. Because.

    Even assuming your conspiracy theory held water, you haven't explained why between flu and Covid we have 170,000+ deaths (and counting) this year.

    I know. I know. "Not unprecedented 'cuz 1957!"

    In a few more months you'll need to start using "Not unprecedented 'cuz 1918!"
    The disrespect for the Hong Kong flu is real
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    HHusky said:

    If you die with an H1N1 flu in 2020 and there is no test then it is a chicom crud death. Because.

    Even assuming your conspiracy theory held water, you haven't explained why between flu and Covid we have 170,000+ deaths (and counting) this year.

    I know. I know. "Not unprecedented 'cuz 1957!"

    In a few more months you'll need to start using "Not unprecedented 'cuz 1918!"
    The disrespect for the Hong Kong flu is real
    It was just the flu.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,784 Founders Club
    I was right

    Too stupid to get it
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    I just finished this brief audiobook, from 2018.


    Nothing special, but entertaining enough.

    However, in the conclusion, the author referenced a 2009 DoD study about the potential for a modern flu* pandemic that would sicken 90 million Americans and kill 2 million.



    Look at us, we achieved that hypothetical with less than 10% of the casualties.

    * BUT IT'S NOT THE FLU

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    I was right

    Too stupid to get it


  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,712 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
    They get money for the China Virus not the flu. HTH

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    So 141,000 crisis actors. The voice of sanity, ladies and gentlemen!
    White flag
    Maybe you should explain your conspiracy theory.
    We never ran a fake tote bored on the flu

    What part of that is beyond your limited comprehension?
    We routinely estimate flu dead, Madam.

    The fact we didn't do this with Covid simply shows how much of an undercount we actually have.
    Almost got it. So close

    Yes we estimate lu deaths AFTER the flu season hence the we don't run a fake tote board comment that you found so hard to decipher. Never have

    So an estimate could be low or high annually on the flu

    We know that covid deaths are over counted as this very thread shows to people that don't have their head up their ass. And we have this running tote bored filled with those bad numbers

    Again, that would be the running tote board that we never had before

    Hope this helps but I'm pretty sure you're too fucking stupid to get it yet
    I just can't decide whether to believe doctors and coroners or various poasters who got Cs in high school science and math.

    The instructions from the CDC are to declare a virus death if they tested positive for it even if it's not what killed them. Also states are dumping in thousands of untested deaths with no testing done. Not like the tests are accurate anyway.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    edited July 2020
    https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/we-need-to-confront-reality/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=first

    People understandably contend that a person who is diagnosed with the coronavirus, but dies of a separate health issue, should not count as a “coronavirus death.” (For example, George Floyd tested positive for coronavirus.) The oft-cited death number probably involves certain elderly patients who were likely to die from any significant stress to their health.

    But just as there’s evidence for an overcount, there’s even more evidence for an undercount. A lack of available tests in the early days meant that certain deaths that were probably connected to the virus were never officially diagnosed. The overall U.S. death toll from the start of the pandemic jumped — way higher than the official death toll from the virus: “The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19 percent higher, than what would normally be expected.”


    . . .

    We can quibble with this or that aspect of the data. I think that if you account for all of the errors and factors that can lead to overcounts and undercounts, it’s more likely we’re undercounting the deaths than overcounting. But even if you assume that one out of every ten official deaths is miscategorized, and shouldn’t be counted as a coronavirus-driven . . . the death count this morning is past 141,000. If the real count is closer to 127,000 . . . how much does that change your perception of the problem? What does the country’s total number of deaths need to reach before everyone will concur, “Wow, this is really bad”? What do you have to see to conclude that it’s not a hoax, that the CDC and doctors are not lying, and that the threat this virus presents is not overhyped?

    Because if the answer is, “Nothing will ever convince me of that,” . . . well, then we are no longer discussing what is actually happening; we’re discussing something akin to an article of faith.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    "Hoax!" is a convenient strawman. Excuse me, strawzir.

    Meh, fuggit, not worth typing more. Trust in government competence, @HHusky , I'm sure it'll turn out great.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    "Hoax!" is a convenient strawman. Excuse me, strawzir.

    Meh, fuggit, not worth typing more. Trust in government competence, @HHusky , I'm sure it'll turn out great.

    The underreaction of the federal government has not inspired confidence, I agree.

    Sled, Ivan and Race seem to be on the Hoax Wagon. If you have a more nuanced position, that would be rfreshing.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    "Hoax!" is a convenient strawman. Excuse me, strawzir.

    Meh, fuggit, not worth typing more. Trust in government competence, @HHusky , I'm sure it'll turn out great.

    The underreaction of the federal government has not inspired confidence, I agree.

    Sled, Ivan and Race seem to be on the Hoax Wagon. If you have a more nuanced position, that would be rfreshing.
    I've written 100x more than prudent about the whole shitshow. Read, or don't, at your leisure. As a Wash-en-tone-ean, I've given up hope at this point. Nothing I say or do matters.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    HHusky said:

    "Hoax!" is a convenient strawman. Excuse me, strawzir.

    Meh, fuggit, not worth typing more. Trust in government competence, @HHusky , I'm sure it'll turn out great.

    The underreaction of the federal government has not inspired confidence, I agree.

    Sled, Ivan and Race seem to be on the Hoax Wagon. If you have a more nuanced position, that would be rfreshing.
    I've written 100x more than prudent about the whole shitshow. Read, or don't, at your leisure. As a Wash-en-tone-ean, I've given up hope at this point. Nothing I say or do matters.
    What approach are you advocating vis-a-vis the virus?
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    "Hoax!" is a convenient strawman. Excuse me, strawzir.

    Meh, fuggit, not worth typing more. Trust in government competence, @HHusky , I'm sure it'll turn out great.

    The underreaction of the federal government has not inspired confidence, I agree.

    Sled, Ivan and Race seem to be on the Hoax Wagon. If you have a more nuanced position, that would be rfreshing.
    I've written 100x more than prudent about the whole shitshow. Read, or don't, at your leisure. As a Wash-en-tone-ean, I've given up hope at this point. Nothing I say or do matters.
    What approach are you advocating vis-a-vis the virus?
    Lighting yourself on fire should kill any virus...you should try it.