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FBI investigates death of black man after video shows cop kneeling on his neck

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  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,107 Standard Supporter
    vadawg said:

    This is fucking murder. Cops and government suck. Fuck the cops.

    Then post videos of COPS killing white, Asian or Latino perps. I don't consider COPS as government.

    It doesn't happen. You know why? Because it doesn't fit the media's narrative.

    In 2017 and 2018, twice as many pale faces were killed by COPS. Show us the videos that the main stream media posted to ginn up outrage.

    It never happened! Period.

    I have been treated poorly and kindly by police officers. I have police officers, DEA agents, FBI and Sheriff's around me now. The stories they tell are outrageous. The danger they are put in by all races is atrocious. For the MSM to focus on the bad few is criminal.

  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,457 Swaye's Wigwam

    vadawg said:

    This is fucking murder. Cops and government suck. Fuck the cops.

    Then post videos of COPS killing white, Asian or Latino perps. I don't consider COPS as government.

    It doesn't happen. You know why? Because it doesn't fit the media's narrative.

    In 2017 and 2018, twice as many pale faces were killed by COPS. Show us the videos that the main stream media posted to ginn up outrage.

    It never happened! Period.

    I have been treated poorly and kindly by police officers. I have police officers, DEA agents, FBI and Sheriff's around me now. The stories they tell are outrageous. The danger they are put in by all races is atrocious. For the MSM to focus on the bad few is criminal.

    No one is seriously saying there arent good cops or that everything is unicorns and rainbows

    Cops need to be held to the highest possible standard. This video would be just as outrageous with any other race as the deceased
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,107 Standard Supporter

    vadawg said:

    This is fucking murder. Cops and government suck. Fuck the cops.

    Then post videos of COPS killing white, Asian or Latino perps. I don't consider COPS as government.

    It doesn't happen. You know why? Because it doesn't fit the media's narrative.

    In 2017 and 2018, twice as many pale faces were killed by COPS. Show us the videos that the main stream media posted to ginn up outrage.

    It never happened! Period.

    I have been treated poorly and kindly by police officers. I have police officers, DEA agents, FBI and Sheriff's around me now. The stories they tell are outrageous. The danger they are put in by all races is atrocious. For the MSM to focus on the bad few is criminal.

    No one is seriously saying there arent good cops or that everything is unicorns and rainbows

    Cops need to be held to the highest possible standard. This video would be just as outrageous with any other race as the deceased
    I agree with you wholeheartedly. Why don't we see those videos then?

    I believe you get it.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,531 Standard Supporter

    vadawg said:

    This is fucking murder. Cops and government suck. Fuck the cops.

    Then post videos of COPS killing white, Asian or Latino perps. I don't consider COPS as government.

    It doesn't happen. You know why? Because it doesn't fit the media's narrative.

    In 2017 and 2018, twice as many pale faces were killed by COPS. Show us the videos that the main stream media posted to ginn up outrage.

    It never happened! Period.

    I have been treated poorly and kindly by police officers. I have police officers, DEA agents, FBI and Sheriff's around me now. The stories they tell are outrageous. The danger they are put in by all races is atrocious. For the MSM to focus on the bad few is criminal.

    Cops are the 21st Century version of organized union thugs.

  • NorthwestFreshNorthwestFresh Member Posts: 7,972
    edited May 2020
    In Wide Open Montana it’s only the reservation redskins who get treated this way when they leave the Rez and nobody cares. Except some of us.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,499
    edited May 2020

    I don't understand rats and their media. You can visit any of my local television station web sites and every single day you can find black on white crime. This story is being reacted to by rats not because one guy was killed by a COP while being restrained. It is a story about a white man doing this to a black man. Gail King was on television crying today asking "why are they doing this to my brothers and sisters". I can show her 5X of the opposite here in South Atlanta but she and other rats aren't interested in that perspective. 6% of the population is responsible for 42% of the murders in this country but rats and their media can't make political hay out of that.

    Black crime gets glossed over by the media, but overzealous power ranger cops are a societal issue as well
    Again, this isn't about Cops, this is black and white.

    When was the last time you saw outrage over COPS killing a white guy? In 2017 twice as many white guys were killed by Police than black. For the life of me I can't ever remember a rat on here posting any articles on that disparity which proves my point.
    It's about cops.
    So you will protest by posting COPS killing white skinned Americans right?

    The only reason this is an issue today is because it is a white COP killing a black man.

    For all of you pussies who disagree, post your last post showing twice as many white men being killed by COPS.

    COPS should never kill like this but for anyone to assume this hasn't happened to white perps is to be a racist POS.

    This is a political issue that is not afforded to COPS killing white people. It is racist at it's core. It is used for political purposes.

    Fuck all of you that believe this is the norm. Statistics say it is politics as usual.
    I don't think anybody said it was the norm. I suppose it's true that police brutality on black people gets more pub, but that's because people at least perceive that it's a relatively more significant issue with black males.

    It's not to suggest that the police don't ever go off on whites or other groups. Separate issue. But I wouldn't say or agree that cop on black (mostly male) violence gets the focus only (or primarily) because of the liberal mainstream media. It's an issue that has been discussed for years in the U.S., and the media didn't just make it up. Even controlling for % of overall US population, the stats for black males are pretty grim in this area, as a very recent and oft-cited study reveals:



    Here's the link to the overall study: https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

    So, it seems that there is at least some basis for the years of people saying that being black and male puts you at relatively worse odds when dealing with the cops.

    Of course, there are other considerations and it's a complex issue. Black males commit a relatively higher % of the crimes, etc. etc.

    That said, this case is unlike the Brown case and more like the Garner case. Whatever he did before doesn't matter; what matters is that once you have a guy under control and he tells you he can't breathe, you need to pay attention and make sure he can breathe. Simple. Get him to the station alive unless your life is threatened.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,499

    In Wide Open Montana it’s only the reservation redskins who get treated this way when they leave the Rez and nobody cares. Except some of us.

    This is true. They are #2 on the list.



    A lot of shit gets swept under the rug or ignored in the US when it comes to the Natives getting the shit end of the stick. I suppose that this is due, in part, to the the fact that the Natives aren't a loud minority group and not a powerful constituency.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,240 Standard Supporter

    Police are trusted with a monopoly on violence in society. Therefore, they are held to a higher standard of conduct than the rest of us. Don't like it? Don't be a cop.

    Reason #1,001 why I don't trust the government or anyone who's an authoritarian.

    Precisely this. It is a huge transference of power.
    The public doesn't want to be held to any standard.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,499
    edited May 2020
    Sledog said:

    Police are trusted with a monopoly on violence in society. Therefore, they are held to a higher standard of conduct than the rest of us. Don't like it? Don't be a cop.

    Reason #1,001 why I don't trust the government or anyone who's an authoritarian.

    Precisely this. It is a huge transference of power.
    The public doesn't want to be held to any standard.
    Disagree Sleddy. The public generally does want law and order, and as I made clear in the other thread about the goons in Georgia, I much, much prefer leaving the business of arresting people to the professionals - the cops.

    That said, there are always going to be bad actors in every line of work. Cops are no exception. What makes those bad actors problematic in the force is the great power and trust the public has conferred upon the police. So when you get a bad apple in that group, it's a problem. Literally nobody else in society - only law enforcement - has the power to legally seize and exert control over your person.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,355
    Sledog said:

    Police are trusted with a monopoly on violence in society. Therefore, they are held to a higher standard of conduct than the rest of us. Don't like it? Don't be a cop.

    Reason #1,001 why I don't trust the government or anyone who's an authoritarian.

    Precisely this. It is a huge transference of power.
    The public doesn't want to be held to any standard.
    Working with the public has its challenges. Becoming a cop is still voluntary.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited May 2020

    I don't understand rats and their media. You can visit any of my local television station web sites and every single day you can find black on white crime. This story is being reacted to by rats not because one guy was killed by a COP while being restrained. It is a story about a white man doing this to a black man. Gail King was on television crying today asking "why are they doing this to my brothers and sisters". I can show her 5X of the opposite here in South Atlanta but she and other rats aren't interested in that perspective. 6% of the population is responsible for 42% of the murders in this country but rats and their media can't make political hay out of that.

    Black crime gets glossed over by the media, but overzealous power ranger cops are a societal issue as well
    Again, this isn't about Cops, this is black and white.

    When was the last time you saw outrage over COPS killing a white guy? In 2017 twice as many white guys were killed by Police than black. For the life of me I can't ever remember a rat on here posting any articles on that disparity which proves my point.
    It's about cops.
    So you will protest by posting COPS killing white skinned Americans right?

    The only reason this is an issue today is because it is a white COP killing a black man.

    For all of you pussies who disagree, post your last post showing twice as many white men being killed by COPS.

    COPS should never kill like this but for anyone to assume this hasn't happened to white perps is to be a racist POS.

    This is a political issue that is not afforded to COPS killing white people. It is racist at it's core. It is used for political purposes.

    Fuck all of you that believe this is the norm. Statistics say it is politics as usual.
    I don't think anybody said it was the norm. I suppose it's true that police brutality on black people gets more pub, but that's because people at least perceive that it's a relatively more significant issue with black males.

    It's not to suggest that the police don't ever go off on whites or other groups. Separate issue. But I wouldn't say or agree that cop on black (mostly male) violence gets the focus only (or primarily) because of the liberal mainstream media. It's an issue that has been discussed for years in the U.S., and the media didn't just make it up. Even controlling for % of overall US population, the stats for black males are pretty grim in this area, as a very recent and oft-cited study reveals:



    Here's the link to the overall study: https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

    So, it seems that there is at least some basis for the years of people saying that being black and male puts you at relatively worse odds when dealing with the cops.

    Of course, there are other considerations and it's a complex issue. Black males commit a relatively higher % of the crimes, etc. etc.

    That said, this case is unlike the Brown case and more like the Garner case. Whatever he did before doesn't matter; what matters is that once you have a guy under control and he tells you he can't breathe, you need to pay attention and make sure he can breathe. Simple. Get him to the station alive unless your life is threatened.
    You can’t classify all deaths by the police as “police brutality”. That’s dishonest no matter what you think of the police. The vast majority are very justifiable. The questionable ones get a huge amount of publicly (Ferguson was a lie). Also as you mentioned, considering black people commit more crimes and therefore have more contact with the police and it’s not hard to understand why more get killed as a %

    And of course the most brutal killing by a cop I’ve ever heard of very few people even noticed, let alone were outraged.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

    Most cops aren’t racist. Most are assholes though.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,499

    I don't understand rats and their media. You can visit any of my local television station web sites and every single day you can find black on white crime. This story is being reacted to by rats not because one guy was killed by a COP while being restrained. It is a story about a white man doing this to a black man. Gail King was on television crying today asking "why are they doing this to my brothers and sisters". I can show her 5X of the opposite here in South Atlanta but she and other rats aren't interested in that perspective. 6% of the population is responsible for 42% of the murders in this country but rats and their media can't make political hay out of that.

    Black crime gets glossed over by the media, but overzealous power ranger cops are a societal issue as well
    Again, this isn't about Cops, this is black and white.

    When was the last time you saw outrage over COPS killing a white guy? In 2017 twice as many white guys were killed by Police than black. For the life of me I can't ever remember a rat on here posting any articles on that disparity which proves my point.
    It's about cops.
    So you will protest by posting COPS killing white skinned Americans right?

    The only reason this is an issue today is because it is a white COP killing a black man.

    For all of you pussies who disagree, post your last post showing twice as many white men being killed by COPS.

    COPS should never kill like this but for anyone to assume this hasn't happened to white perps is to be a racist POS.

    This is a political issue that is not afforded to COPS killing white people. It is racist at it's core. It is used for political purposes.

    Fuck all of you that believe this is the norm. Statistics say it is politics as usual.
    I don't think anybody said it was the norm. I suppose it's true that police brutality on black people gets more pub, but that's because people at least perceive that it's a relatively more significant issue with black males.

    It's not to suggest that the police don't ever go off on whites or other groups. Separate issue. But I wouldn't say or agree that cop on black (mostly male) violence gets the focus only (or primarily) because of the liberal mainstream media. It's an issue that has been discussed for years in the U.S., and the media didn't just make it up. Even controlling for % of overall US population, the stats for black males are pretty grim in this area, as a very recent and oft-cited study reveals:



    Here's the link to the overall study: https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

    So, it seems that there is at least some basis for the years of people saying that being black and male puts you at relatively worse odds when dealing with the cops.

    Of course, there are other considerations and it's a complex issue. Black males commit a relatively higher % of the crimes, etc. etc.

    That said, this case is unlike the Brown case and more like the Garner case. Whatever he did before doesn't matter; what matters is that once you have a guy under control and he tells you he can't breathe, you need to pay attention and make sure he can breathe. Simple. Get him to the station alive unless your life is threatened.
    You can’t classify all deaths by the police as “police brutality”. That’s dishonest no matter what you think of the police. The vast majority are very justifiable. The questionable ones get a huge amount of publicly (Ferguson was a lie). Also as you mentioned, considering black people commit more crimes and therefore have more contact with the police and it’s not hard to understand why more get killed as a %
    I didn't. I posted the recent study as a basis for why people focus more on violence between black males and the cops. Said another way, as at least some explanation for why the questionable ones get the pub.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    Media

    I don't understand rats and their media. You can visit any of my local television station web sites and every single day you can find black on white crime. This story is being reacted to by rats not because one guy was killed by a COP while being restrained. It is a story about a white man doing this to a black man. Gail King was on television crying today asking "why are they doing this to my brothers and sisters". I can show her 5X of the opposite here in South Atlanta but she and other rats aren't interested in that perspective. 6% of the population is responsible for 42% of the murders in this country but rats and their media can't make political hay out of that.

    Black crime gets glossed over by the media, but overzealous power ranger cops are a societal issue as well
    Again, this isn't about Cops, this is black and white.

    When was the last time you saw outrage over COPS killing a white guy? In 2017 twice as many white guys were killed by Police than black. For the life of me I can't ever remember a rat on here posting any articles on that disparity which proves my point.
    It's about cops.
    So you will protest by posting COPS killing white skinned Americans right?

    The only reason this is an issue today is because it is a white COP killing a black man.

    For all of you pussies who disagree, post your last post showing twice as many white men being killed by COPS.

    COPS should never kill like this but for anyone to assume this hasn't happened to white perps is to be a racist POS.

    This is a political issue that is not afforded to COPS killing white people. It is racist at it's core. It is used for political purposes.

    Fuck all of you that believe this is the norm. Statistics say it is politics as usual.

    It fits their narrative. It gets clicks and eyeballs to the screen. It gets more money. It perpetuates division. The cop went way overboard, but there's still no video of what lead up to it that I've seen.
    There is no question the COP went WAY OVERBOARD. He needs to be prosecuted. We don't need police officers like that. Send that SOB up the river, he has anger issues.

    LEAVE.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I don't understand rats and their media. You can visit any of my local television station web sites and every single day you can find black on white crime. This story is being reacted to by rats not because one guy was killed by a COP while being restrained. It is a story about a white man doing this to a black man. Gail King was on television crying today asking "why are they doing this to my brothers and sisters". I can show her 5X of the opposite here in South Atlanta but she and other rats aren't interested in that perspective. 6% of the population is responsible for 42% of the murders in this country but rats and their media can't make political hay out of that.

    Black crime gets glossed over by the media, but overzealous power ranger cops are a societal issue as well
    Again, this isn't about Cops, this is black and white.

    When was the last time you saw outrage over COPS killing a white guy? In 2017 twice as many white guys were killed by Police than black. For the life of me I can't ever remember a rat on here posting any articles on that disparity which proves my point.
    It's about cops.
    So you will protest by posting COPS killing white skinned Americans right?

    The only reason this is an issue today is because it is a white COP killing a black man.

    For all of you pussies who disagree, post your last post showing twice as many white men being killed by COPS.

    COPS should never kill like this but for anyone to assume this hasn't happened to white perps is to be a racist POS.

    This is a political issue that is not afforded to COPS killing white people. It is racist at it's core. It is used for political purposes.

    Fuck all of you that believe this is the norm. Statistics say it is politics as usual.
    I don't think anybody said it was the norm. I suppose it's true that police brutality on black people gets more pub, but that's because people at least perceive that it's a relatively more significant issue with black males.

    It's not to suggest that the police don't ever go off on whites or other groups. Separate issue. But I wouldn't say or agree that cop on black (mostly male) violence gets the focus only (or primarily) because of the liberal mainstream media. It's an issue that has been discussed for years in the U.S., and the media didn't just make it up. Even controlling for % of overall US population, the stats for black males are pretty grim in this area, as a very recent and oft-cited study reveals:



    Here's the link to the overall study: https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

    So, it seems that there is at least some basis for the years of people saying that being black and male puts you at relatively worse odds when dealing with the cops.

    Of course, there are other considerations and it's a complex issue. Black males commit a relatively higher % of the crimes, etc. etc.

    That said, this case is unlike the Brown case and more like the Garner case. Whatever he did before doesn't matter; what matters is that once you have a guy under control and he tells you he can't breathe, you need to pay attention and make sure he can breathe. Simple. Get him to the station alive unless your life is threatened.
    You can’t classify all deaths by the police as “police brutality”. That’s dishonest no matter what you think of the police. The vast majority are very justifiable. The questionable ones get a huge amount of publicly (Ferguson was a lie). Also as you mentioned, considering black people commit more crimes and therefore have more contact with the police and it’s not hard to understand why more get killed as a %
    I didn't. I posted the recent study as a basis for why people focus more on violence between black males and the cops. Said another way, as at least some explanation for why the questionable ones get the pub.
    The graph you posted did
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,976 Standard Supporter

    vadawg said:

    This is fucking murder. Cops and government suck. Fuck the cops.

    Then post videos of COPS killing white, Asian or Latino perps. I don't consider COPS as government.

    It doesn't happen. You know why? Because it doesn't fit the media's narrative.

    In 2017 and 2018, twice as many pale faces were killed by COPS. Show us the videos that the main stream media posted to ginn up outrage.

    It never happened! Period.

    I have been treated poorly and kindly by police officers. I have police officers, DEA agents, FBI and Sheriff's around me now. The stories they tell are outrageous. The danger they are put in by all races is atrocious. For the MSM to focus on the bad few is criminal.

    Cops are the 21st Century version of organized union thugs.

    Huge problem in Seattle is that many are ex-military and live far away from the City, because they do not like the city or city people. I can't blame them for hating Seattle residents, but I do blame them for conducting themselves with an Us vs. Them mentality and satisfying their Napoleonic pathologies by being bullying dicks. Solution: Don't work where you can't stand the people. Conflict is guaranteed.
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367

    A Taser and a trip seemed appropriate.
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