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Voter Fraud is a myth
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I'm not a Secretary of State.ThomasFremont said:
Set it up. It takes even longer if you never get started.salemcoog said:
The fear is in that it takes many months to over a year to set up secure vote by mail systems. But the left doesn't care about secure voting systems much, now do they?ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong?
Or are you for centralized elections now? -
You’ve made the point repeatedly that it takes time to set up correctly. Fine, so let’s get started. Do it right. I have no problem with that.salemcoog said:
I'm not a Secretary of State.ThomasFremont said:
Set it up. It takes even longer if you never get started.salemcoog said:
The fear is in that it takes many months to over a year to set up secure vote by mail systems. But the left doesn't care about secure voting systems much, now do they?ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong?
Or are you for centralized elections now?
Beyond this time constraint, I’ve yet to hear any other rationale for opposing the switch to mail in ballots across the country.
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Sure, as long as we audit the voter rolls for basic things like citizenship, duplicates, deaths, felonies, etc. That should be a basic litmus test of if this is on the up and up or not right?ThomasFremont said:
You’ve made the point repeatedly that it takes time to set up correctly. Fine, so let’s get started. Do it right. I have no problem with that.salemcoog said:
I'm not a Secretary of State.ThomasFremont said:
Set it up. It takes even longer if you never get started.salemcoog said:
The fear is in that it takes many months to over a year to set up secure vote by mail systems. But the left doesn't care about secure voting systems much, now do they?ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong?
Or are you for centralized elections now?
Beyond this time constraint, I’ve yet to hear any other rationale for opposing the switch to mail in ballots across the country.
I wonder why that's a non-starter in mail-in California. -
AgreedUW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, as long as we audit the voter rolls for basic things like citizenship, duplicates, deaths, felonies, etc. That should be a basic litmus test of if this is on the up and up or not right?ThomasFremont said:
You’ve made the point repeatedly that it takes time to set up correctly. Fine, so let’s get started. Do it right. I have no problem with that.salemcoog said:
I'm not a Secretary of State.ThomasFremont said:
Set it up. It takes even longer if you never get started.salemcoog said:
The fear is in that it takes many months to over a year to set up secure vote by mail systems. But the left doesn't care about secure voting systems much, now do they?ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong?
Or are you for centralized elections now?
Beyond this time constraint, I’ve yet to hear any other rationale for opposing the switch to mail in ballots across the country.
I wonder why that's a non-starter in mail-in California. -
I don't know anyone of consequence who opposes making the voter rolls accurate. People do object to half assing the job by purging the rolls of every third Lopez, however.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, as long as we audit the voter rolls for basic things like citizenship, duplicates, deaths, felonies, etc. That should be a basic litmus test of if this is on the up and up or not right?ThomasFremont said:
You’ve made the point repeatedly that it takes time to set up correctly. Fine, so let’s get started. Do it right. I have no problem with that.salemcoog said:
I'm not a Secretary of State.ThomasFremont said:
Set it up. It takes even longer if you never get started.salemcoog said:
The fear is in that it takes many months to over a year to set up secure vote by mail systems. But the left doesn't care about secure voting systems much, now do they?ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong?
Or are you for centralized elections now?
Beyond this time constraint, I’ve yet to hear any other rationale for opposing the switch to mail in ballots across the country.
I wonder why that's a non-starter in mail-in California. -
Well your of no consequence so that part is accurateHHusky said:
I don't know anyone of consequence who opposes making the voter rolls accurate. People do object to half assing the job by purging the rolls of every third Lopez, however.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, as long as we audit the voter rolls for basic things like citizenship, duplicates, deaths, felonies, etc. That should be a basic litmus test of if this is on the up and up or not right?ThomasFremont said:
You’ve made the point repeatedly that it takes time to set up correctly. Fine, so let’s get started. Do it right. I have no problem with that.salemcoog said:
I'm not a Secretary of State.ThomasFremont said:
Set it up. It takes even longer if you never get started.salemcoog said:
The fear is in that it takes many months to over a year to set up secure vote by mail systems. But the left doesn't care about secure voting systems much, now do they?ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong?
Or are you for centralized elections now?
Beyond this time constraint, I’ve yet to hear any other rationale for opposing the switch to mail in ballots across the country.
I wonder why that's a non-starter in mail-in California.
I'm sure you have multiple links for your conspiracy theory -
Should we just go ahead and name these plays at this point? This could be like NE vs. the Rams during spygate.HHusky said:
I don't know anyone of consequence who opposes making the voter rolls accurate. People do object to half assing the job by purging the rolls of every third Lopez, however.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, as long as we audit the voter rolls for basic things like citizenship, duplicates, deaths, felonies, etc. That should be a basic litmus test of if this is on the up and up or not right?ThomasFremont said:
You’ve made the point repeatedly that it takes time to set up correctly. Fine, so let’s get started. Do it right. I have no problem with that.salemcoog said:
I'm not a Secretary of State.ThomasFremont said:
Set it up. It takes even longer if you never get started.salemcoog said:
The fear is in that it takes many months to over a year to set up secure vote by mail systems. But the left doesn't care about secure voting systems much, now do they?ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong?
Or are you for centralized elections now?
Beyond this time constraint, I’ve yet to hear any other rationale for opposing the switch to mail in ballots across the country.
I wonder why that's a non-starter in mail-in California. -
Who gives a fuck if someone is? It's neither a serious argument nor a relevant one.SFGbob said:
Nobody is saying voter fraud is a myth.GreenRiverGatorz said:
My favorite part of your argument is that the burden of proof is on those who oppose the GOP disenfranchisement efforts to prove that there is no voter fraud.RaceBannon said:
That's not accurate because the states refused to cooperate. Gee I wonder whyThomasFremont said:
We had a study. Trump’s own commission. They found nothing.RaceBannon said:
Again what study are you relying on?ThomasFremont said:
ID?RaceBannon said:
How can you disenfranchise an illegal voter?ThomasFremont said:Nobody says it’s a myth. People get caught every year.
The myth is that voter fraud is so widespread it justifies mass disenfranchisement or changes outcomes.
Don’t believe me? Just ask Trump. His own committee found nothing and he shut it down. The whole thing was a stunt to soothe his ego over losing the popular vote so bigly.
https://apnews.com/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d/Report:-Trump-commission-did-not-find-widespread-voter-fraud
What study do you get your data from that the numbers are insignificant?
You need ID for everything. The idea that ID stops anyone with half a brain from voting is the REAL myth
How about shutting down the majority of polling places in large metropolitan areas.
Refusing to switch to mail ballots.
Purging voter rolls right before Election Day and refusing to count provisional ballots.
Nobody talking about ID or illegals here. I am talking about Americans.
If illegals are voting in massive numbers, where’s the proof? You have a FEELING. Not evidence.
Voter rolls should be purged routinely. Stops fraud
That's am impressive list of left wing loser myths you got
All you have is a Sledog meme and a FEELING. Get back to me when you have that evidence.
So what study are you using? Where is your proof of the loser's lament you like to unleash here from time to time?
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I've always believed that somebody needs to actually prove material voter fraud before we go and make voting systematically more difficult in certain jurisdictions. I see a lot of funny memes about dead uncles voting, but nothing to substantiate that this is an actual widespread problem worthy of legislation.
Only anti-American dipshits try to decrease voting. -
Yeah, just the entire Rat party political leadership in California and across the country but no one of consequence. You're such a fucking hack Dazzler.HHusky said:
I don't know anyone of consequence who opposes making the voter rolls accurate. People do object to half assing the job by purging the rolls of every third Lopez, however.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Sure, as long as we audit the voter rolls for basic things like citizenship, duplicates, deaths, felonies, etc. That should be a basic litmus test of if this is on the up and up or not right?ThomasFremont said:
You’ve made the point repeatedly that it takes time to set up correctly. Fine, so let’s get started. Do it right. I have no problem with that.salemcoog said:
I'm not a Secretary of State.ThomasFremont said:
Set it up. It takes even longer if you never get started.salemcoog said:
The fear is in that it takes many months to over a year to set up secure vote by mail systems. But the left doesn't care about secure voting systems much, now do they?ThomasFremont said:SFGbob said:
Another urban myth. While there are a few places that have these problems they are far from the norm and all most all of them occur in Rat run cities and counties. Now where's that article supporting your lie about a majority of some city's polling places being closed? And since I know that liberals are fucking liars it's not hard for me to believe that these number include the numbers of polling places that have been closed while omitting the number of new places that have been opened.ThomasFremont said:
Do you have to stand in line all day to wait to vote?SFGbob said:Wow nothing about a majority of all polling places being closed in a city. Fucking liar. Btw, I've been in my current location since 2004. My polling place has been closed eight different times now. Am I a victim of voter suppression Tommy?
Of course it isn’t the norm. It’s targeted at specific areas in the states where the GOP controls the election process and can get away with it. That way useful idiots like you can pretend it’s a myth and scream about unsubstantiated voter fraud if it’s ever brought up.
How else do you explain the fear over switching to mail in ballots? Works great in WA. Trump likes to vote by mail too. You calling the president wrong?
Or are you for centralized elections now?
Beyond this time constraint, I’ve yet to hear any other rationale for opposing the switch to mail in ballots across the country.
I wonder why that's a non-starter in mail-in California. -
The verification process here in California to ensure that a non-citizen isn't registering to vote is based entirely on the honor system. There is no cross check of any Federal database to determine whether someone is or is not a citizen.
The voter registration database, though, does not include official citizenship documents, according to Padilla’s office.
Instead, it indicates whether applicants affirmed their eligibility status because they had to “declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California” they are a U.S. citizen and resident of California and at least 16 years old, not currently in a state or federal prison or on parole for the conviction of a felony and not currently found mentally incompetent to vote by a court.
The applicant must also verify he or she understands it’s is a crime to intentionally provide incorrect information and that the information on the registration form is true and correct.
https://www.sacbee.com/article235686972.html
