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Flu shot eh? Bah bah sheeple.MikeDamone said:
I pretty much do nothing. Wear a gaiter mask, which does nothing, when I’m required to have a mask. I take it off the second Karen can’t yell at me. I go to the gym we’re no one gives a fuck. 20-30 people, no masks or any serious attempt to distance. Ive never been a big hand washer unless I have shit or something obvious that needs to be cleaned (I don’t wash when i pee, why? My cock is the cleanest part on my body). I get a flu shot, it’s free and takes 8 minutes.RaceBannon said:
Every Friday I get a pep talk from my wife before entering the grocery store. The two arguments we have got in at the store over the months were both started by her. We're on our third store. All good. The mask doesn't bother her but the bags do. A lot. They won't bag if you bring reusable in which is what they want because Cali charges for new bags every week. She pointed out that they were all over our groceries so put them in the damn bag. Two tellers ended up arguing with her at which point I said - the proper response would have been to nod your head and agree and go on with your business. (I've been married 35 years) not double up and start yelling.theknowledge said:He's gone from ethical to Covid Crazy. As evidence mounts in one direction and the actions taken by those in power are pulling in the opposite direction it messes with ones mind causing one to lash out. This is something I see at the grocery store. Usually one or two blow ups is all a person needs to purge the madness and then numbness sets in. Someone who was vocal and obstinate one day will go out and buy a mask that says "This mask is as useless as our Governor" or a shirt that says "The only thing non essential in Washington is Jay Inslee" and do their shopping in silence. They are done. His charts will be ethical again in a few days. Covid Crazy is a real thing. I've had it and survived.
#comfortablynumb
For that our 300 bucks a week goes elsewhere
The hysteria about “staying safe” is absurd. Proven by stats to date.
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Curve was flattened
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Chart on the left seems to indicate Florida wasn’t infected until NY’ers brought Covid there.
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Well those numbers will alter a few things - 6% of 185000 = 11,100 for a total 0.0034 death rate for the US population.
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It's not as simple as that of course.
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it would be that simple if Chinslee said it
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If the national discussion was rational, this new information would solve everything. However, it've obviously nowhere near rational. Trotting out an argument that "Granny was going to die anyway" is not going to change things for the better.
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People forget that Obama used that argument to sell ObamacareGrundleStiltzkin said:If the national discussion was rational, this new information would solve everything. However, it've obviously nowhere near rational. Trotting out an argument that "Granny was going to die anyway" is not going to change things for the better.
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Not going to pretend to understand this one.
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Heterogeneous resistance attempts to quantify people with different exposure and transmission levels than others. Heterogeneous resistance often revolves around two variables; age and social mixing to determine susceptibility.GrundleStiltzkin said:Not going to pretend to understand this one.
Heterogeneity typically lowers the herd immunity threshold. First the virus infects people who are more susceptible and spreads quickly. But to keep spreading, the virus has to move on to people who are less susceptible. This makes it harder for the virus to spread, so the epidemic grows more slowly than you might have anticipated based on its initial rate of growth. For example; transmission and immunity are often concentrated among the most active members of a population, who are often younger and less vulnerable.
Here is a link to a paper discussing the 20% threshold: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.27.20081893v3.full.pdf+html
For his chart:
Connector - is a person who performs a high number of transactions per day
Processor – is a person who interacts with a connector but few other processors
Sink - is a person who does not leave their residence and has minimal interactions with anyone
You read the chart by connecting the detection type and the role. So a Connector-Symptomatic may need 70% immunity but a Sink-Symptomatic only needs 5% immunity. You then weigh each population group by your guess as a percent of the population (20+45+35=100).
*not an endorsement, just an explanation*
TLDR: The virus distribution in a large population is nonrandom, the respective nonrandom immunity in a population lowers the actual herd immunity threshold for the population not measured in many "herd immunity" models.
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TYFYSHouhusky said:
Heterogeneous resistance attempts to quantify people with different exposure and transmission levels than others. Heterogeneous resistance often revolves around two variables; age and social mixing to determine susceptibility.GrundleStiltzkin said:Not going to pretend to understand this one.
Heterogeneity typically lowers the herd immunity threshold. First the virus infects people who are more susceptible and spreads quickly. But to keep spreading, the virus has to move on to people who are less susceptible. This makes it harder for the virus to spread, so the epidemic grows more slowly than you might have anticipated based on its initial rate of growth. For example; transmission and immunity are often concentrated among the most active members of a population, who are often younger and less vulnerable.
Here is a link to a paper discussing the 20% threshold: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.27.20081893v3.full.pdf+html
For his chart:
Connector - is a person who performs a high number of transactions per day
Processor – is a person who interacts with a connector but few other processors
Sink - is a person who does not leave their residence and has minimal interactions with anyone
You read the chart by connecting the detection type and the role. So a Connector-Symptomatic may need 70% immunity but a Sink-Symptomatic only needs 5% immunity. You then weigh each population group by your guess as a percent of the population (20+45+35=100).
*not an endorsement, just an explanation*
TLDR: The virus distribution in a large population is nonrandom, the respective nonrandom immunity in a population lowers the actual herd immunity threshold for the population not measured in many "herd immunity" models.
Thankyou for attending my TED talk. -
Where is the surge we* were promised?
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Axxe @MikeDamonedoogie said:Where is the surge we* were promised?
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18, 36, 54, 81 DAYS JUST WAIT..............doogie said:Where is the surge we* were promised?
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It’s in my sweatpants.doogie said:Where is the surge we* were promised?
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Trump has French blood on his hands.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/NikolovScience/status/1303323210998403074
a paper published in The Lancet last month confirmed what astute observers have suspected for the past 6 months: lockdowns had NO effect on reducing the COVID19 death rate: https://thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext…
Lockdowns only hurt economically & psychologically tens of millions of people! -
So they opened up and have cases not deaths
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doogie said:
a paper published in The Lancet last month confirmed what astute observers have suspected for the past 6 months: lockdowns had NO effect on reducing the COVID19 death rate: https://thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext…
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Seems Sweden swallowed a hard pill and that has resulted in a form of herd immunity. They look pretty good these days. Nobody around the world really likes to talk about them anymore. When everyone was locked down they were an easy Mark for lockdown supporters. Now? Not so much.GrundleStiltzkin said: -
I read something over the weekend that Northern Italy is doing fine and it’s Southern Italy now getting hit basically with its first real wave. The herd theory is not dead, it’s actually more right than ever.theknowledge said:
Seems Sweden swallowed a hard pill and that has resulted in a form of herd immunity. They look pretty good these days. Nobody around the world really likes to talk about them anymore. When everyone was locked down they were an easy Mark for lockdown supporters. Now? Not so much.GrundleStiltzkin said: