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Ryan Otton, 2022 4* TE, Olympia (Tumwater HS), WA (COMMITTED)

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  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,732 Swaye's Wigwam
    For football?

    Boy, wait until he hears what the Pac-12 decided to do last month...
  • dougthedawgdougthedawg Member Posts: 179
    edited September 2020

    For football?

    Boy, wait until he hears what the Pac-12 decided to do last month...
    Ballz' East Bay cousin?
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited November 2020
    is this kid better looking prospect than cade?
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,086 Standard Supporter
    FireCohen said:

    is this kid better looking prospect than cade?

    Higher rated yes. But most were very excited to get Cade as a recruit if they actually watched his film regardless of his rating.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,043 Swaye's Wigwam

    FireCohen said:

    is this kid better looking prospect than cade?

    Higher rated yes. But most were very excited to get Cade as a recruit if they actually watched his film regardless of his rating.
    True story. His recruiting film was impressive. You could see he had great receiving skills and hands, great reach, and glue hands. You could see he was big and tough and a willing blocker.

    The only thing he has surprised me a little is in how nimble and fast he looks at that size. He carries that weight like it isn't there.
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,086 Standard Supporter

    FireCohen said:

    is this kid better looking prospect than cade?

    Higher rated yes. But most were very excited to get Cade as a recruit if they actually watched his film regardless of his rating.
    At least nobody is doing the typical bullshit where they say, “If Kwat can make ZTF into the best pass rusher in the country, imagine what he can do with better recruits!”

    If little Otton is 90% as good as his brother, he’s a great TE. There aren’t many, of any, TE’s in CFB that are as good as Otton.
    This.

    One of the biggest fallacies of the tbs crowd is to use this logic. I remember that exact comment about the 2016 defense. Regardless of how highly ranked the croots we brought in going forward were we are never getting a higher performing secondary than rapp, baker, king and jones. Our interior line was ridiculously deep that year as well but we heard the whole " we are just getting started bs about imagine all the higher rated guys we will get now."

    When you are consistently producing all conference and all American level players that are drafted the first two days of the draft it's not getting any better. Now there were some glaring holes on that defense, but you're not getting better than the top performers.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861

    FireCohen said:

    is this kid better looking prospect than cade?

    Higher rated yes. But most were very excited to get Cade as a recruit if they actually watched his film regardless of his rating.
    At least nobody is doing the typical bullshit where they say, “If Kwat can make ZTF into the best pass rusher in the country, imagine what he can do with better recruits!”

    If little Otton is 90% as good as his brother, he’s a great TE. There aren’t many, of any, TE’s in CFB that are as good as Otton.
    This.

    One of the biggest fallacies of the tbs crowd is to use this logic. I remember that exact comment about the 2016 defense. Regardless of how highly ranked the croots we brought in going forward were we are never getting a higher performing secondary than rapp, baker, king and jones. Our interior line was ridiculously deep that year as well but we heard the whole " we are just getting started bs about imagine all the higher rated guys we will get now."

    When you are consistently producing all conference and all American level players that are drafted the first two days of the draft it's not getting any better. Now there were some glaring holes on that defense, but you're not getting better than the top performers.
    We have better corners right now than 2016 hth.
  • TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,798

    We have better corners right now than 2016 hth.

    When you look at what those 2016 guys are doing in The League right now, it’s tempting to say this is crazy. But it’s not crazy.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    dnc said:

    FireCohen said:

    is this kid better looking prospect than cade?

    Higher rated yes. But most were very excited to get Cade as a recruit if they actually watched his film regardless of his rating.
    At least nobody is doing the typical bullshit where they say, “If Kwat can make ZTF into the best pass rusher in the country, imagine what he can do with better recruits!”

    If little Otton is 90% as good as his brother, he’s a great TE. There aren’t many, of any, TE’s in CFB that are as good as Otton.
    This.

    One of the biggest fallacies of the tbs crowd is to use this logic. I remember that exact comment about the 2016 defense. Regardless of how highly ranked the croots we brought in going forward were we are never getting a higher performing secondary than rapp, baker, king and jones. Our interior line was ridiculously deep that year as well but we heard the whole " we are just getting started bs about imagine all the higher rated guys we will get now."

    When you are consistently producing all conference and all American level players that are drafted the first two days of the draft it's not getting any better. Now there were some glaring holes on that defense, but you're not getting better than the top performers.
    We have better corners right now than 2016 hth.
    Taylor is easily 6th best out of the 6. You could argue any order for the other 5.

    Gotta go with 2016.
    McDuffie is better than Sid. Elijah is the 4th highest graded player in the country. Kyler Gordon. Keith Taylor. I’ll take this group 10/10.
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,086 Standard Supporter

    FireCohen said:

    is this kid better looking prospect than cade?

    Higher rated yes. But most were very excited to get Cade as a recruit if they actually watched his film regardless of his rating.
    At least nobody is doing the typical bullshit where they say, “If Kwat can make ZTF into the best pass rusher in the country, imagine what he can do with better recruits!”

    If little Otton is 90% as good as his brother, he’s a great TE. There aren’t many, of any, TE’s in CFB that are as good as Otton.
    This.

    One of the biggest fallacies of the tbs crowd is to use this logic. I remember that exact comment about the 2016 defense. Regardless of how highly ranked the croots we brought in going forward were we are never getting a higher performing secondary than rapp, baker, king and jones. Our interior line was ridiculously deep that year as well but we heard the whole " we are just getting started bs about imagine all the higher rated guys we will get now."

    When you are consistently producing all conference and all American level players that are drafted the first two days of the draft it's not getting any better. Now there were some glaring holes on that defense, but you're not getting better than the top performers.
    We have better corners right now than 2016 hth.
    Starters no. Budda was your nickel although he blitzed a lot and they schemed different. King and jones > mcduffie and Taylor. Taylor still doesn't have a pick if I remember right.

    Jones and Budda were on multiple all American lists by season end.

    Regardless the point is when your secondary is the best in the country in a given year, it doesn't get better because of star ratings in subsequent years.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,861
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    FireCohen said:

    is this kid better looking prospect than cade?

    Higher rated yes. But most were very excited to get Cade as a recruit if they actually watched his film regardless of his rating.
    At least nobody is doing the typical bullshit where they say, “If Kwat can make ZTF into the best pass rusher in the country, imagine what he can do with better recruits!”

    If little Otton is 90% as good as his brother, he’s a great TE. There aren’t many, of any, TE’s in CFB that are as good as Otton.
    This.

    One of the biggest fallacies of the tbs crowd is to use this logic. I remember that exact comment about the 2016 defense. Regardless of how highly ranked the croots we brought in going forward were we are never getting a higher performing secondary than rapp, baker, king and jones. Our interior line was ridiculously deep that year as well but we heard the whole " we are just getting started bs about imagine all the higher rated guys we will get now."

    When you are consistently producing all conference and all American level players that are drafted the first two days of the draft it's not getting any better. Now there were some glaring holes on that defense, but you're not getting better than the top performers.
    We have better corners right now than 2016 hth.
    Taylor is easily 6th best out of the 6. You could argue any order for the other 5.

    Gotta go with 2016.
    McDuffie is better than Sid. Elijah is the 4th highest graded player in the country. Kyler Gordon. Keith Taylor. I’ll take this group 10/10.
    SMFJ was going to be the first corner taken before he blew his achilles. I have been in love with McDuffie since long before he committed here but I'm not giving him better than jr Sid as a true sophomore.

    PFF grades are cute and semi interesting. Don't make actual arguments with them.

    SMFJ, Budda Baker and Kevin King is a ridiculous starting trio.
    He’s Sidney with elite athletic testing, stop. This is major cap. McDuffie is much more explosive.
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