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Evidence Shows Dir Gen of WHO Severely Overstated Death Rate of Coronavirus leading to global panic

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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    MelloDawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    The flu rarely causes diarrhea. Especially in adults. Thats one of the great myths that won't die. The flu is a respiratory disease. But decades of moms saying their kid who is throwing up with diarrhea had the "flu" or even worse "a touch of the flu" or the "24 hour flu" has left millions not knowing what the flu is. Especially since people won't get flu shots and say "I got the shotonce and got the flu anyway" when in fact the had food poisoning or something like the Norovirus.

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/what-is-flu
    Fair enough.

    Perception is reality though. People hear "it's the flu" and went and bought TP to prepare for that which they will not face.
    No. Facts are reality. Misinformation and failure to grasp facts leads to panic, fear and irrational behavior that harms people.

    The reality is people are hoarding TP the are uneducated emotional sheep who get lead are on drugs by the nose. That's the fact.

    But if they are that uneducated and prone to groupthink as you say, they were going to do that regardless of the information they're getting or its source. The problem is that now regular folks such as you and I (but more me because I'm more regular) are now the ones going to get TP because we might need it down the road after all the crazies keep buying it. The same goes for chicken.
    So we've reestablished people are dumb, emotional and easily manipulated.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,511 Standard Supporter
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    MelloDawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    The flu rarely causes diarrhea. Especially in adults. Thats one of the great myths that won't die. The flu is a respiratory disease. But decades of moms saying their kid who is throwing up with diarrhea had the "flu" or even worse "a touch of the flu" or the "24 hour flu" has left millions not knowing what the flu is. Especially since people won't get flu shots and say "I got the shotonce and got the flu anyway" when in fact the had food poisoning or something like the Norovirus.

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/what-is-flu
    Fair enough.

    Perception is reality though. People hear "it's the flu" and went and bought TP to prepare for that which they will not face.
    No. Facts are reality. Misinformation and failure to grasp facts leads to panic, fear and irrational behavior that harms people.

    The reality is people are hoarding TP the are uneducated emotional sheep who get lead are on drugs by the nose. That's the fact.

    But if they are that uneducated and prone to groupthink as you say, they were going to do that regardless of the information they're getting or its source. The problem is that now regular folks such as you and I (but more me because I'm more regular) are now the ones going to get TP because we might need it down the road after all the crazies keep buying it. The same goes for chicken.
    My wife just informed me that we need to join in and go buy shit we don't need so we're prepared

    Because everyone is

    I need wine and rib steaks
    It's St. Paddy's, man.

    Buy a few years worth of corned beef.

  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,111 Standard Supporter
    I need the two hot 40 year old chicks at the bar Sunday night. At the same time. They can do lesbian stuff as a warm up. I got the 12 rolls of toilet paper. Now the bars are closed though...
  • PandaOrangeChiknDuck
    PandaOrangeChiknDuck Member Posts: 545
    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    In Europe they are now upto 700 deaths per day. That rate is continuing to increase as icus fill up and doctors are having to treat patients in triage tents. Hopefully the draconian measures taken here can lower the rate in the US.
    It's actually down to 427 per day with 80% of them coming from Italy. Considering you have 741 million people living in Europe, not a huge problem.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,917

    MelloDawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    The flu rarely causes diarrhea. Especially in adults. Thats one of the great myths that won't die. The flu is a respiratory disease. But decades of moms saying their kid who is throwing up with diarrhea had the "flu" or even worse "a touch of the flu" or the "24 hour flu" has left millions not knowing what the flu is. Especially since people won't get flu shots and say "I got the shotonce and got the flu anyway" when in fact the had food poisoning or something like the Norovirus.

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/what-is-flu
    Fair enough.

    Perception is reality though. People hear "it's the flu" and went and bought TP to prepare for that which they will not face.
    No. Facts are reality. Misinformation and failure to grasp facts leads to panic, fear and irrational behavior that harms people.

    The reality is people are hoarding TP the are uneducated emotional sheep who get lead are on drugs by the nose. That's the fact.

    But if they are that uneducated and prone to groupthink as you say, they were going to do that regardless of the information they're getting or its source. The problem is that now regular folks such as you and I (but more me because I'm more regular) are now the ones going to get TP because we might need it down the road after all the crazies keep buying it. The same goes for chicken.
    My wife just informed me that we need to join in and go buy shit we don't need so we're prepared

    Because everyone is

    I need wine and rib steaks
    Those were the first two things I bought on Sunday, also went for the “big 6 bottles of Washington wine, get a 20% discount..” You and I are the same.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    GDS said:

    HHusky said:

    If you are seriously calculating the death rate from the flu by looking at CONFIRMED cases of the flu, you deserve to get your medical advice from gatewaypundit.

    In Europe they are now upto 700 deaths per day. That rate is continuing to increase as icus fill up and doctors are having to treat patients in triage tents. Hopefully the draconian measures taken here can lower the rate in the US.
    It's actually down to 427 per day with 80% of them coming from Italy. Considering you have 741 million people living in Europe, not a huge problem.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    Around 620 today. Where are you getting your numbers?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,905 Standard Supporter
    The counselor is all in at 100K US corona deaths. I'm predicting this will be even better than his hand up don't shoot mantra. 80K flu deaths in 2017-2018.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,492 Founders Club
    MelloDawg said:

    MelloDawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Yeah you're wrong on this, it is significantly more deadly than the flu. And even if this analysis is correct, it's significantly more contagious than the flu, which will make it more deadly.

    Its not the fact that it is contagious and can bring deaths with it, especially in the elderly, it is the scare tactics. People react just how they did here. No toilet paper (why?), bulk buying foods that are not available for those that need it most, panic buying and hoarding.

    Driving panic is stupid. People are waiting in lines for 5 hours at shopping centers. 1000's of people close together, freaking out. Putting themselves at risk when it didn't need to be that way. The risk to those who are not sick and vulnerable is minimal.

    Seriously, can someone explain to me why the run on toilet paper? Are people going to shit themselves to death? People are so deranged. I went to the store this afternoon and there is no fresh chicken, red meat, TP, but the vegetables and fruit are untouched. Same with canned veggies, rice, pasta.
    All the idiots who keep comparing this to the flu is why people keep buying toilet paper. Or at least why they started buying it. Once it became a hot item everyone else just panic falls in line.

    It's not like the flu. It's not going to give you diarrhea.
    The flu rarely causes diarrhea. Especially in adults. Thats one of the great myths that won't die. The flu is a respiratory disease. But decades of moms saying their kid who is throwing up with diarrhea had the "flu" or even worse "a touch of the flu" or the "24 hour flu" has left millions not knowing what the flu is. Especially since people won't get flu shots and say "I got the shotonce and got the flu anyway" when in fact the had food poisoning or something like the Norovirus.

    https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/what-is-flu
    Fair enough.

    Perception is reality though. People hear "it's the flu" and went and bought TP to prepare for that which they will not face.
    No. Facts are reality. Misinformation and failure to grasp facts leads to panic, fear and irrational behavior that harms people.

    The reality is people are hoarding TP the are uneducated emotional sheep who get lead are on drugs by the nose. That's the fact.

    But if they are that uneducated and prone to groupthink as you say, they were going to do that regardless of the information they're getting or its source. The problem is that now regular folks such as you and I (but more me because I'm more regular) are now the ones going to get TP because we might need it down the road after all the crazies keep buying it. The same goes for chicken.
    My wife just informed me that we need to join in and go buy shit we don't need so we're prepared

    Because everyone is

    I need wine and rib steaks
    Those were the first two things I bought on Sunday, also went for the “big 6 bottles of Washington wine, get a 20% discount..” You and I are the same.
    We've always been brothers
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,511 Standard Supporter

    The counselor is all in at 100K US corona deaths. I'm predicting this will be even better than his hand up don't shoot mantra. 80K flu deaths in 2017-2018.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

    COVID-19: U.S. at a Glance*

    Total cases: 4,226
    Total deaths: 75
    Jurisdictions reporting cases: 53 (49 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands)

    * Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.


    Still 12,000'ish behind H1N1.

  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    The counselor is all in at 100K US corona deaths. I'm predicting this will be even better than his hand up don't shoot mantra. 80K flu deaths in 2017-2018.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html

    COVID-19: U.S. at a Glance*

    Total cases: 4,226
    Total deaths: 75
    Jurisdictions reporting cases: 53 (49 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands)

    * Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.


    Still 12,000'ish behind H1N1.

    We just getting started.