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  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668

    Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.

    In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.

    There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.

    Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?

    I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.
    Agree with Derek.
    She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.
    You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.

    I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
    Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.

    Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.

    In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.

    I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.

    As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.

    Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    What about this guy? From the Senate frying pan right into the fire.



    And what business chops did, say, Reagan have?

    Look, if you want to suggest that they should all be like HW Bush ... a verifiably accomplished individual long before he got to the WH, then I'm on board. But you seem to be cherry picking here a little.

    JFK? Another good looking well spoken rat politician? Thanks for making my point.

    Just stop.
    Stop what? Which one of us said this?

    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either.

    Obama is hardly the first guy to hold office whose primary experience is politics and not business. Simple point.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.

    In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.

    There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.

    Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?

    I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.
    Agree with Derek.
    She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.
    You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.

    I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
    Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.

    Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.

    In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.

    I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.

    As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.

    Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    What about this guy? From the Senate frying pan right into the fire.



    And what business chops did, say, Reagan have?

    Look, if you want to suggest that they should all be like HW Bush ... a verifiably accomplished individual long before he got to the WH, then I'm on board. But you seem to be cherry picking here a little.

    JFK? Another good looking well spoken rat politician? Thanks for making my point.

    Just stop.
    Stop what? Which one of us said this?

    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either.

    Obama is hardly the first guy to hold office whose primary experience is politics and not business. Simple point.
    True, but he had little political experience either. I blame Mike Ditka for the whole bloody mess.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668

    Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.

    In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.

    There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.

    Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?

    I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.
    Agree with Derek.
    She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.
    You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.

    I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
    Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.

    Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.

    In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.

    I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.

    As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.

    Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    What about this guy? From the Senate frying pan right into the fire.



    And what business chops did, say, Reagan have?

    Look, if you want to suggest that they should all be like HW Bush ... a verifiably accomplished individual long before he got to the WH, then I'm on board. But you seem to be cherry picking here a little.

    JFK? Another good looking well spoken rat politician? Thanks for making my point.

    Just stop.
    Stop what? Which one of us said this?

    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either.

    Obama is hardly the first guy to hold office whose primary experience is politics and not business. Simple point.
    True, but he had little political experience either. I blame Mike Ditka for the whole bloody mess.
    State senator for 7 years; just a hair under 4 years in the real senate. Taught con law at Chicago, which is better than being an actor or a professional fuck-around in Hyannisport any day. Yeah, it was a little light. But not "none", which is what I'm responding to; we're clearly cherry picking here as you well know. If we'd liked his politics, the narrative would take what I've written just here and make it sound wonderful.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,702 Standard Supporter
    A leftard like Barry teaching con law is a two minute course. Get 5 Supreme Court Justices to agree that the actual written language of the document can be ignored and stick conservatives in reeducation camps.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,444 Standard Supporter
    Berry wasn't a prof.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668
    Sledog said:

    Berry wasn't a prof.

    True. Chicago didn’t let in people off the street to lecture at their law school. It’s not a job for average people.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668

    A leftard like Barry teaching con law is a two minute course. Get 5 Supreme Court Justices to agree that the actual written language of the document can be ignored and stick conservatives in reeducation camps.

    Gotcha.
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,184 Standard Supporter

    Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.

    In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.

    There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.

    Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?

    I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.
    Agree with Derek.
    She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.
    You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.

    I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
    Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.

    Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.

    In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.

    I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.

    As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.

    Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    What about this guy? From the Senate frying pan right into the fire.



    And what business chops did, say, Reagan have?

    Look, if you want to suggest that they should all be like HW Bush ... a verifiably accomplished individual long before he got to the WH, then I'm on board. But you seem to be cherry picking here a little.

    JFK? Another good looking well spoken rat politician? Thanks for making my point.

    Just stop.
    Stop what? Which one of us said this?

    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either.

    Obama is hardly the first guy to hold office whose primary experience is politics and not business. Simple point.
    "Hold office"? He was fucking President. His most esteemed experience was as a guest lecturer at Chicago. He was given the job because of his skin color.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668

    Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.

    In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.

    There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.

    Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?

    I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.
    Agree with Derek.
    She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.
    You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.

    I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
    Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.

    Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.

    In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.

    I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.

    As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.

    Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    What about this guy? From the Senate frying pan right into the fire.



    And what business chops did, say, Reagan have?

    Look, if you want to suggest that they should all be like HW Bush ... a verifiably accomplished individual long before he got to the WH, then I'm on board. But you seem to be cherry picking here a little.

    JFK? Another good looking well spoken rat politician? Thanks for making my point.

    Just stop.
    Stop what? Which one of us said this?

    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either.

    Obama is hardly the first guy to hold office whose primary experience is politics and not business. Simple point.
    "Hold office"? He was fucking President. His most esteemed experience was as a guest lecturer at Chicago. He was given the job because of his skin color.
    Yeah, I know. That’s what we’re talking about. He’s not the first guy to hold office whose main qualification was politics. And he lectured at Chicago for years.

    If you liked his politics you wouldn’t care about this.

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,702 Standard Supporter
    If I liked his politics it would be because he wasn't a poorly educated socialist. Leftards argued he was the most brilliant president evah. The truth was that he was an AA admit to the Ivy League enhanced by claiming to be a Kenyan. He got the Law Review gig because he was half black also. Wrote nothing and did nothing. Was mentored by a commie terrorist who wrote his "autobiography". I'm not impressed with credentials unless its backed up with performance. Leftards love to "feel". barry "felt" that we couldn't drill our way to lower energy prices. Palin knew we could. That alone discredits any credentials that barry had and the people that dumped on Palin owe her an apology. You can't be so fundamentally wrong about something that important and just paper it over with the statement that he lectured about a topic he knew nothing about in Chicago.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,444 Standard Supporter

    If I liked his politics it would be because he wasn't a poorly educated socialist. Leftards argued he was the most brilliant president evah. The truth was that he was an AA admit to the Ivy League enhanced by claiming to be a Kenyan. He got the Law Review gig because he was half black also. Wrote nothing and did nothing. Was mentored by a commie terrorist who wrote his "autobiography". I'm not impressed with credentials unless its backed up with performance. Leftards love to "feel". barry "felt" that we couldn't drill our way to lower energy prices. Palin knew we could. That alone discredits any credentials that barry had and the people that dumped on Palin owe her an apology. You can't be so fundamentally wrong about something that important and just paper it over with the statement that he lectured about a topic he knew nothing about in Chicago.

    If you dig you'll find they lowered the standards so he could receive accolades at graduation and be president of the law review.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,702 Standard Supporter
    If you actually cared all this was known in 2008. So, you either didn't care or you just ignored it and lied about it. If I care about something I like to read and learn about it. What is stunning is how leftards are so intellectually incurious about topics that they are so emotionally invested in. They are the equivalent of flat earthers. The rest just want the raw power and are happy to lie to gain the power. In reality, most are a toxic mix of both.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,013
    Sledog said:

    If I liked his politics it would be because he wasn't a poorly educated socialist. Leftards argued he was the most brilliant president evah. The truth was that he was an AA admit to the Ivy League enhanced by claiming to be a Kenyan. He got the Law Review gig because he was half black also. Wrote nothing and did nothing. Was mentored by a commie terrorist who wrote his "autobiography". I'm not impressed with credentials unless its backed up with performance. Leftards love to "feel". barry "felt" that we couldn't drill our way to lower energy prices. Palin knew we could. That alone discredits any credentials that barry had and the people that dumped on Palin owe her an apology. You can't be so fundamentally wrong about something that important and just paper it over with the statement that he lectured about a topic he knew nothing about in Chicago.

    If you dig you'll find they lowered the standards so he could receive accolades at graduation and be president of the law review.
    Obama was made the head of the Harvard Law Review on an Affirmative Action weighted vote and he was the first person to hold that position who didn't write regularly for the publication. He was a figure head, or as O'Keefed likes to say a "prop."
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668
    edited February 2020

    If you actually cared all this was known in 2008. So, you either didn't care or you just ignored it and lied about it. If I care about something I like to read and learn about it. What is stunning is how leftards are so intellectually incurious about topics that they are so emotionally invested in. They are the equivalent of flat earthers. The rest just want the raw power and are happy to lie to gain the power. In reality, most are a toxic mix of both.

    That’s all great. But I only responded to the community organizer comment.

    By the time we’re done here, it will be a wonder that the guy can even tie his shoes. Did they manufacture the magna cum laude finish to his legal studies too?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,444 Standard Supporter

    If you actually cared all this was known in 2008. So, you either didn't care or you just ignored it and lied about it. If I care about something I like to read and learn about it. What is stunning is how leftards are so intellectually incurious about topics that they are so emotionally invested in. They are the equivalent of flat earthers. The rest just want the raw power and are happy to lie to gain the power. In reality, most are a toxic mix of both.

    That’s all great. But I only responded to the community organizer comment.

    By the time we’re done here, it will be a wonder that the guy can even tie his shoes. Did they manufacture the magna cum laude finish to his legal studies too?
    They sure did.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,702 Standard Supporter
    For some reason, there are no details behind barry's admittance to Harvard or his grades. For some reason, we know a lot about W Bush's. I wasn't commenting about your community organizer comment. I was commenting about the credentials comment.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668

    For some reason, there are no details behind barry's admittance to Harvard or his grades. For some reason, we know a lot about W Bush's. I wasn't commenting about your community organizer comment. I was commenting about the credentials comment.

    One guy in this thread is telling me that his graduation honors were made up as a gift to him. And another is saying we don’t have details about his grades. It seems like we’d have a good idea about his grades if we knew that HLS took the unprecedented step of giving him high honors graduation status.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama was admitted to HLS in part on diversity considerations. But then again, for the lion’s share of its history (and that of the other Ivy League and other selective schools), being wealthy was the primary admission criterion. How many Presidents got in that way?

    But once there, it doesn’t appear he slid by. Someone will have to lay that out for me. And not because I don’t want to believe it. I don’t care at all. But I don’t alter how I assess probability based on how I feel about someone. If you had graduated from HLS with high honors my assumption would be you earned it and that it was real.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,702 Standard Supporter
    Would you assume that he earned his admission into Harvard Law? Would you assume he earned his way to editor of the law review. Would you assume he earned his magna cum laude? barry sure doesn't seem like a brilliant guy to me. Bush was a legacy admit to both Yale and Harvard's MBA program. Bush never seemed like a brilliant guy to me either. I've never gone to bat for Bush's intelligence. Neither Bush or barry are stupid, but barry wasn't the second brightest guy at Harvard Law.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,668
    edited February 2020

    Would you assume that he earned his admission into Harvard Law? Would you assume he earned his way to editor of the law review. Would you assume he earned his magna cum laude? barry sure doesn't seem like a brilliant guy to me. Bush was a legacy admit to both Yale and Harvard's MBA program. Bush never seemed like a brilliant guy to me either. I've never gone to bat for Bush's intelligence. Neither Bush or barry are stupid, but barry wasn't the second brightest guy at Harvard Law.

    I answered the first question.

    The EIC charge ... sure, diversity likely had some play there. And while an EIC would typically get his student article in for publication, it's not unheard of that they don't given their other responsibilities.

    Magna Cum Laude? This is conspiracy theory zone. I'd find it more believable that he lied about it than the school rigging it for him. "Well, his grades are average, but let's let the black kid graduate MCL." Lolz. They just don't do that; Obama wasn't exactly the first black guy to sail through Langdell Hall. They weren't that smitten. Jesus.

    Second smartest guy at HLS? Who said he was? You know, they hand out more than one Magna Cum Laude designation. It's based on your grades and falling into a specified % ranking.

    Your rationale seems to be, "if he got in with affirmative action, everything else must be fraud."
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Would you assume that he earned his admission into Harvard Law? Would you assume he earned his way to editor of the law review. Would you assume he earned his magna cum laude? barry sure doesn't seem like a brilliant guy to me. Bush was a legacy admit to both Yale and Harvard's MBA program. Bush never seemed like a brilliant guy to me either. I've never gone to bat for Bush's intelligence. Neither Bush or barry are stupid, but barry wasn't the second brightest guy at Harvard Law.

    I answered the first question.

    The EIC charge ... sure, diversity likely had some play there. And while an EIC would typically get his student article in for publication, it's not unheard of that they don't given their other responsibilities.

    Magna Cum Laude? This is conspiracy theory zone. I'd find it more believable that he lied about it than the school rigging it for him. "Well, his grades are average, but let's let the black kid graduate MCL." Lolz. They just don't do that; Obama wasn't exactly the first black guy to sail through Langdell Hall. They weren't that smitten. Jesus.

    Second smartest guy at HLS? Who said he was? You know, they hand out more than one Magna Cum Laude designation. It's based on your grades and falling into a specified % ranking.

    Your rationale seems to be, "if he got in with affirmative action, everything else must be fraud."
    It’s as relevant as trumps tax returns. (Which are irrelevant). Show the transcripts (or tax returns) and if you don’t your opponents will assume there is something to hide.
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