A simple question
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Since it wasn't your last post. My point still stands. Barry was not the second most brilliant student in his class.
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Never said he was. Not that either one of us has any idea, but sure, the odds are against it. Harvard Law School is one the country’s largest and they admit a lot of very bright people. But that’s not what ‘magna cum laude’ means in any event. It just means he did very well.WestlinnDuck said:Since it wasn't your last post. My point still stands. Barry was not the second most brilliant student in his class.
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3.4-3.7 GPA IIRC. Most schools.creepycoug said:
Never said he was. Not that either one of us has any idea, but sure, the odds are against it. Harvard Law School is one the country’s largest and they admit a lot of very bright people. But that’s not what ‘magna cum laude’ means in any event. It just means he did very well.WestlinnDuck said:Since it wasn't your last post. My point still stands. Barry was not the second most brilliant student in his class.
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I’m sure it varies. But given the talent at HLS, graduating with high honors means you did well in a class of very smart people.Sledog said:
3.4-3.7 GPA IIRC. Most schools.creepycoug said:
Never said he was. Not that either one of us has any idea, but sure, the odds are against it. Harvard Law School is one the country’s largest and they admit a lot of very bright people. But that’s not what ‘magna cum laude’ means in any event. It just means he did very well.WestlinnDuck said:Since it wasn't your last post. My point still stands. Barry was not the second most brilliant student in his class.
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Barack spent most of his US Senate career running for President.creepycoug said:
State senator for 7 years; just a hair under 4 years in the real senate. Taught con law at Chicago, which is better than being an actor or a professional fuck-around in Hyannisport any day. Yeah, it was a little light. But not "none", which is what I'm responding to; we're clearly cherry picking here as you well know. If we'd liked his politics, the narrative would take what I've written just here and make it sound wonderful.GrundleStiltzkin said:
True, but he had little political experience either. I blame Mike Ditka for the whole bloody mess.creepycoug said:
Stop what? Which one of us said this?Bendintheriver said:
JFK? Another good looking well spoken rat politician? Thanks for making my point.creepycoug said:
What about this guy? From the Senate frying pan right into the fire.Bendintheriver said:
Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.creepycoug said:
Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.Bendintheriver said:
You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.Southerndawg said:
Agree with Derek.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.Bendintheriver said:Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.
In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.
There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.
Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?
I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.
In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.
I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.
As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
And what business chops did, say, Reagan have?
Look, if you want to suggest that they should all be like HW Bush ... a verifiably accomplished individual long before he got to the WH, then I'm on board. But you seem to be cherry picking here a little.
Just stop.
Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either.
Obama is hardly the first guy to hold office whose primary experience is politics and not business. Simple point. -
They used to joke about the fact that he was put in the seat to not be in the seat. His bosses put him on the fast track to the Presidency and the Senate was simply a resume filler for him. They couldn't believe they had a black man who could speak well and was good looking according to Biden so they put him in the WH when he was completely unqualified. Like I have said before, he did what all Chicago politicians do, they lie, cheat and steal and rats loved him for it.salemcoog said:
Barack spent most of his US Senate career running for President.creepycoug said:
State senator for 7 years; just a hair under 4 years in the real senate. Taught con law at Chicago, which is better than being an actor or a professional fuck-around in Hyannisport any day. Yeah, it was a little light. But not "none", which is what I'm responding to; we're clearly cherry picking here as you well know. If we'd liked his politics, the narrative would take what I've written just here and make it sound wonderful.GrundleStiltzkin said:
True, but he had little political experience either. I blame Mike Ditka for the whole bloody mess.creepycoug said:
Stop what? Which one of us said this?Bendintheriver said:
JFK? Another good looking well spoken rat politician? Thanks for making my point.creepycoug said:
What about this guy? From the Senate frying pan right into the fire.Bendintheriver said:
Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.creepycoug said:
Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.Bendintheriver said:
You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.GrundleStiltzkin said:
She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.Southerndawg said:
Agree with Derek.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.Bendintheriver said:Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.
In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.
There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.
Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?
I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.
In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.
I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.
As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
And what business chops did, say, Reagan have?
Look, if you want to suggest that they should all be like HW Bush ... a verifiably accomplished individual long before he got to the WH, then I'm on board. But you seem to be cherry picking here a little.
Just stop.
Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either.
Obama is hardly the first guy to hold office whose primary experience is politics and not business. Simple point.