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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Obama was the first president who truly hated America and all it stands for
    He hated America so much that he provided health insurance to a measly 30 million people.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,208 Founders Club

    Obama was the first president who truly hated America and all it stands for
    Welcum to the Weather Underground.
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,806 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2020

    Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.

    Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.

    In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.

    I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.

    As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.
    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.

    Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,517 Standard Supporter

    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.

    Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    The 'man' at the end makes Crazy Joe seem almost Shaft- or Superfly-like in his connection to the African-American peoples.

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,086 Standard Supporter
    The current dem candidate message is that America is systemically racist. So systemic that a black man could never be president? So systemic that the supposed greatest university in the world hired a fake American Indian and then boasted about it? Telling white blue collar workers that their auto and energy jobs are going to be taken away, that open borders and free health care for illegals is a top priority and that they are racist scum is quite the positive message.

    https://nypost.com/2020/02/07/trashing-america-as-racist-wont-help-democrats-beat-trump/

    Trashing America as racist won’t help Democrats beat Trump

    The Democrats are lucky the February debate in New Hampshire took place on a Friday night, when relatively few were watching — because if they wanted to deliver the message to the working-class white people who delivered the upper Midwest and the presidency to Donald Trump in 2016 that they should stick with him rather than voting blue in November, they did a brilliant job of it.

    Tom Steyer, the billionaire who’s trying to buy a win Bloomberg-style in the South Carolina Democratic primary, issued a stark warning at the beginning of the Democratic debate Friday night in New Hampshire: Trump has the economic numbers that can help him get reelected, and Democrats are going to need to have a strong message to overwhelm it.

    About an hour into the debate, they found their message: America, Bernie Sanders said, is “a racist society from top to bottom.”

    One by one, the candidates echoed the message that “systemic racism” characterizes America.

    “We can’t legislate away racism,” said Andrew Yang, because racism runs so deep in the American soul.

    Joe Biden, verbatim (poor Joe): “The fact is that we in fact there is systemic racism.”

    Elizabeth Warren even declared that “we need race-conscious laws in education, in employment, in entrepreneurship to make this country a country for everyone.”

    By which she means the law should actually be written to privilege people of color.

    SEE ALSO

    The winners and losers of Friday's Democratic debate
    It’s a fashionable message, and if there’s one thing the Democrats love to be, it’s fashionable. It’s The New York Times’ “1619 Project” nonsense about how slavery is what founded this country.

    And when you live in a liberal media bubble, its allure is hypnotic — especially since it seems to offer a pathway they can follow to appeal to the African American voters who make up 25% of the Democratic primary electorate and who may now be up for grabs since Joe Biden face-planted in Iowa earlier this week.

    I’m not saying these people are crazy but — these people are crazy. This is crazy talk, and not only because it’s a rotten, lousy lie and a grotesque distortion of history and simple truth.

    It’s crazy talk because, unless I’m very much mistaken, you don’t win the presidency by telling the American people the country they live in and that so many of us love is rotten at its core.

    It’s one thing to trash Trump, which they did as they always do. It’s one thing to blame him for all kinds of stuff. It’s another to spend an evening trashing the United States of America as a systematically unjust and even evil place whose rot reaches its very foundations.

    You don’t win the presidency by telling a majority of voters — some of whom are the very voters you need to flip to win — that the system is unfairly rigged in their favor.

    Even Trump, who began his presidency by talking about “American carnage,” did not say America was bad at its root — rather, he said it had ceased being great, and he was going to make it great again.

    I wasn’t happy with the way he talked about this country either, but he didn’t say our problems were systemic and that effectively we were born out of evil.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,517 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2020
    That some sweet editorializing of Yang's quote.

    “We can’t legislate away racism,” said Andrew Yang, because racism runs so deep in the American soul.

    Here's what Yang actually said:

    “We can’t regulate away racism with a patchwork of laws that are race-specific. We can’t regulate that away through any other means except putting money directly into the hands of African Americans and Latinos, to people of color, to allow businesses to actually flourish and grow in those communities. The only way that will help is if Black and Latino consumers have buying power."

    Anybody surprised that he's the only candidate of color.....but he's the one getting his words twisted out of context because it doesn't fit the Central Party playbook of divisiveness? Dude is always looking forward (though not in total agreement with his policies) instead of pointing backwards.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=andrew+yang+on+racism&docid=13980636159673&mid=8A7E975C11B7327F849B8A7E975C11B7327F849B&view=detail&FORM=VIRE


    Wood still, Erin Burnett even though she's not as hot as her CNBC days.


  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,086 Standard Supporter
    Didn't notice that Podhoretz made up the quote. Yang does appear to think that racism is a major problem for blacks and hispanics. How giving them free sh*t is going to motivate someone to get a job is a bit beyond me. My experience is that free sh*t is bad for the character and just leads to dependency which is what we have. I'll be prepared to concede that the Great Society and dem promoted welfare have been disastrous to a large chunk of the black community. I'll be prepared to concede that inner city education programs run by dems are actually detrimental to the education of blacks. If we want to call that racist - I won't object.

    Yang seems to think that a UBI program would just redirect current welfare money. It won't. It would just end up being a free sh*t add on. Just like Milton Friedman thought that an earned income credit would reward getting a job. In some cases it does, but it is administered by the deep state as a welfare giveaway and billions are gamed out of the program and not one dem gives a crap.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,517 Standard Supporter

    Didn't notice that Podhoretz made up the quote. Yang does appear to think that racism is a major problem for blacks and hispanics. How giving them free sh*t is going to motivate someone to get a job is a bit beyond me. My experience is that free sh*t is bad for the character and just leads to dependency which is what we have. I'll be prepared to concede that the Great Society and dem promoted welfare have been disastrous to a large chunk of the black community. I'll be prepared to concede that inner city education programs run by dems are actually detrimental to the education of blacks. If we want to call that racist - I won't object.

    Yang seems to think that a UBI program would just redirect current welfare money. It won't. It would just end up being a free sh*t add on. Just like Milton Friedman thought that an earned income credit would reward getting a job. In some cases it does, but it is administered by the deep state as a welfare giveaway and billions are gamed out of the program and not one dem gives a crap.

    I'm not in a position to support Yang's UBI - but what I do like about the guy is he goes against the Central Party playbook. He's not stuck in the woe-is-me-systemic-history bullshit. Acknowledge it an move the fuck on. I'm more of learn from history, now let's look ahead and make shit better kind of guy. Lamenting crap from 350 years ago isn't going to do shit to compete on a global scale and make USA! USA! USA! the world's greatest country into the next century.

    He also doesn't have TDS.


  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,157 Founders Club

    If UBI replaced all other public assistance including social security it might be worth considering. If not, then fuck that.
    Agree. The delivery system sucks for all aid. Very wasteful
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,972


    Damn, bruh. T&Ps.

    SLC/Utah Moes are radical progressives compared to the S. Idaho Mormons.

    There's a boatload of hispanics (some who are even here legally) in Ada/Canyon County too - Raul checks many boxes.

    Oh yeah. Raul is not a pretender. Trust me on that point. He's a true believer.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,972
    edited February 2020

    Can you name one other community organizer who never had a real job, no business experience, and never held public office and jumped right to President? Me either. He gave good speeches, the white rats liked that, and he was a good looking black man and the rats liked that. Pretty shallow qualifications but if you doubt any of it, just look at the ex-bartender socialist who is a mouthpiece for the rat party right now. That idiot would destroy the country given the chance.

    Lest there be any doubt, remember the following by your current Presidential front runner who said what all rat plantation owners were thinking but to smart to say in public other than that dip shit Biden:

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    What about this guy? From the Senate frying pan right into the fire.



    And what business chops did, say, Reagan have?

    Look, if you want to suggest that they should all be like HW Bush ... a verifiably accomplished individual long before he got to the WH, then I'm on board. But you seem to be cherry picking here a little.

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,517 Standard Supporter

    If UBI replaced all other public assistance including social security it might be worth considering. If not, then fuck that.
    Like I say, I'm not joined at the hip with the whole UBI concept. But I like Yang because he's not a cum guzzling suck up to the Central Party and doesn't burn a bunch of brains cells on TDS.

    IMO, he's the only one who could have a shot at beating Trump. Most of that is based on likeability which goes a long way. Warren and Klobucher will gets slammed because they are cunty bitches.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Like I say, I'm not joined at the hip with the whole UBI concept. But I like Yang because he's not a cum guzzling suck up to the Central Party and doesn't burn a bunch of brains cells on TDS.

    IMO, he's the only one who could have a shot at beating Trump. Most of that is based on likeability which goes a long way. Warren and Klobucher will gets slammed because they are cunty bitches.
    Yang has governability, not electability.
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,806 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2020

    What about this guy? From the Senate frying pan right into the fire.



    And what business chops did, say, Reagan have?

    Look, if you want to suggest that they should all be like HW Bush ... a verifiably accomplished individual long before he got to the WH, then I'm on board. But you seem to be cherry picking here a little.

    JFK? Another good looking well spoken rat politician? Thanks for making my point.

    Just stop.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,157 Founders Club

    Yang has governability, not electability.
    He make a great cabinet member for Trump
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 112,157 Founders Club
    JFK was a war hero like Bush 1. In 1960 ww2 was 15 years ago
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    He’d be in the proud boys
    Surely there has to be a picture of JFK throwing up the “white Power” hand sign somewhere.
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