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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,181 Standard Supporter

    Depends on what things you want. And what problems you recognize. AOC wants bad things and her recognized problems are my opportunities which makes her a bad person and anti-American. Now here is how a real debate occurs. You now talk about her nude green eel and how patriotic that is. Then you talk about about how my free speech and 2A rights are a problem and how wanting to take them away is patriotic. AOC isn't existing in some theoretical background. She is an elected member of Congress and wants to destroy this country.

    “Wants to destroy this country”

    An auspicious start to our REAL debate.
    She is an admitted socialist. Why don't you tell us how forcing our country into socialism is anything but destroying it.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    SFGbob said:

    Depends on what things you want. And what problems you recognize. AOC wants bad things and her recognized problems are my opportunities which makes her a bad person and anti-American. Now here is how a real debate occurs. You now talk about her nude green eel and how patriotic that is. Then you talk about about how my free speech and 2A rights are a problem and how wanting to take them away is patriotic. AOC isn't existing in some theoretical background. She is an elected member of Congress and wants to destroy this country.

    “Wants to destroy this country”

    An auspicious start to our REAL debate.
    She definitely wants to destroy the current economic system. You deny this?
    It's moral and ethical for Bezos to turn Amazon into a workers Co-op. If he doesn't do it voluntarily AOC would love to do it for him. Because it's moral and ethical.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855
    ThomasFremont trying to have a legitimate conversation with echos. SAD.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    Depends on what things you want. And what problems you recognize. AOC wants bad things and her recognized problems are my opportunities which makes her a bad person and anti-American. Now here is how a real debate occurs. You now talk about her nude green eel and how patriotic that is. Then you talk about about how my free speech and 2A rights are a problem and how wanting to take them away is patriotic. AOC isn't existing in some theoretical background. She is an elected member of Congress and wants to destroy this country.

    “Wants to destroy this country”

    An auspicious start to our REAL debate.
    She is an admitted socialist. Why don't you tell us how forcing our country into socialism is anything but destroying it.
    If I tell you that I want to completely restructure our energy, transportation and healthcare systems while raising taxes massively and imposing a wealth tax, allowing for open borders and getting rid of ICE how have I not "destroyed" our country as it currently exists?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Depends on what things you want. And what problems you recognize. AOC wants bad things and her recognized problems are my opportunities which makes her a bad person and anti-American. Now here is how a real debate occurs. You now talk about her nude green eel and how patriotic that is. Then you talk about about how my free speech and 2A rights are a problem and how wanting to take them away is patriotic. AOC isn't existing in some theoretical background. She is an elected member of Congress and wants to destroy this country.

    “Wants to destroy this country”

    An auspicious start to our REAL debate.
    She is an admitted socialist. Why don't you tell us how forcing our country into socialism is anything but destroying it.
    A freshman congresswomen from the minority party is forcing the country into socialism.

    OK!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,610 Standard Supporter

    Depends on what things you want. And what problems you recognize. AOC wants bad things and her recognized problems are my opportunities which makes her a bad person and anti-American. Now here is how a real debate occurs. You now talk about her nude green eel and how patriotic that is. Then you talk about about how my free speech and 2A rights are a problem and how wanting to take them away is patriotic. AOC isn't existing in some theoretical background. She is an elected member of Congress and wants to destroy this country.

    “Wants to destroy this country”

    An auspicious start to our REAL debate.
    Destroy. Nothing less.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    Depends on what things you want. And what problems you recognize. AOC wants bad things and her recognized problems are my opportunities which makes her a bad person and anti-American. Now here is how a real debate occurs. You now talk about her nude green eel and how patriotic that is. Then you talk about about how my free speech and 2A rights are a problem and how wanting to take them away is patriotic. AOC isn't existing in some theoretical background. She is an elected member of Congress and wants to destroy this country.

    “Wants to destroy this country”

    An auspicious start to our REAL debate.
    She is an admitted socialist. Why don't you tell us how forcing our country into socialism is anything but destroying it.
    A freshman congresswomen from the minority party is forcing the country into socialism.

    OK!
    Why don't you tell us why you're such a fucking Kunt Tommy? If you made her Queen she would force the country into socialism. Yes, she doesn't have the power to do that on her own but she certainly wants to.

    Try to pretend that she is an old white guy talking about abortion. Because those guys didn't have the power to get rid of abortion but that didn't stop you from being triggered and making up some bullshit story about them holding a "hearing" to get rid of abortion.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Yeah and I’d fuck Natalie Portman if I could, but that ain’t happening either.

    Hypothetical BS is the name of the game today I see.

    We don’t do that, fellas.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,286

    Can someone, anyone, describe a positive that is spewed by the rat candidates for President? One positive comment about our country, the people in it or the opportunity for all. Half of them are multi millionaires and the other half aren't and are still on that stage running for President yet none of them have any hint of a positive message.

    In my lifetime, after researching and ghosting speeches for some politicians, working in DC, working on some campaigns, I have never, ever, seen politicians who actually believe that this country is so evil that they can't be seen saying anything positive about it. There is no pride on that stage, only victim-hood and financial envy. I get it, they are dividing the races, convincing people they are victims, and creating economic envy so that they can polarize and get that sides votes. But the damage the are doing is a lasting one and it seems that they sincerely want to fundamentally change the entire history of this country and what has made it great.

    There is nothing more difficult to watch than a minority bar tender, who isn't that bright, lecturing all of us about how there is no opportunity when she is a member of congress. Or watching a rebuttal after the State of the Union by a Governor, who is clearly out of touch, talk about minority children filling in pot holes to help the government of all things. But worst of all, it is those running for President and their clear lack of appreciation for what our country has done and can offer.

    Can anyone detail some positives or is this just me?

    I agree with much of what you're saying. But out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to say "minority bartender" instead of just saying "bartender"? It seems to imply her rhetoric would be more palatable had she been a white bartender.
    Agree with Derek.
    She would not have risen to the position she #Occupies within the party if she was a white bartender.
    You are absolutely correct. Neither would BO had he not been black. I know hard core Reps who voted only for him because he was black. They wanted to say they voted for the first black President. His racism was ignored, his total lack of experience. Like many predicted of a Chicago rat being President he was also the most corrupt ever.

    I can name 20 other minorities and some whitey's that are in congress that are only there because of their skin color. It is actually a good thing for the country. As much as a pain in the ass some idiots are that are in Congress, they have the opportunity to be there representing their constituents. You can't say that anywhere else in the world.
    Fair enough. And there a lot of them who are there for other reasons that similarly have little or nothing to do with merit. Rubio and others like him are there because of their ethnic and racial background insofar as that is relevant to their constituency. Rubio would likely not be a senator if he hailed from Spokane. But he doesn't; he's from a place with a lot of Cubans.

    Then again, as I write that, I'm reminded that my former law school classmate and friend, Raul Labrador, was a Congressman representing his district in Idaho. I don't think the fact that he's Puerto Rican had shit to do with his election ... Raul is a very conservative Mormon married to a white Mormon woman and meets the criteria for election in Idaho.

    In a perverse way, AOC won election to the House on the Trump ticket - the outsider's outsider. She was just supported by a different base with a different agenda.

    I suppose all that is to say that the country is working in the way it was intended.

    As to BO's lack of experience, he's hardly the first, so it shouldn't be held against him any more than it has against others.