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But how is the media leftist partisan hacks?
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you needed some helpSFGbob said:
Yeah how dare they focus on Fox News.BearsWiin said:Your collective insistence on focusing narrowly on Fox News is as silly as your insistence on focusing narrowly on a supposed transcript
it's a lot larger than that
but it doesn't fit your narrowtive
like I said, good talk as always, let's have the same damn convo later
Been thinking a lot about why Trump will survive impeachment when Nixon didn’t. For 20+ years Fox News (and rightwing talk radio) has told GOP voters that Democrats are evil. As lawless as Trump is, Republicans believe Dems are worse. That’s the power of propaganda.
Yes, absolutely. But it goes beyond Fox News. This story can be traced back to the creation of right-wing think tanks, which were founded for the explicit purpose of helping conservatives win the "war of ideas", as former Reagan adviser Murray Weidenbaum once said. 1/
Conservative think-tanks arose from the expectation that conservative ideas deserve the same weight as objective facts. When that didn't happen, conservatives cried "liberal bias" and went off & created their own echo-chambers, with think-tanks as the foundation. 2/
Conservative think-tanks exist to produce ideologically-driven "research" and partisan "knowledge". When the media did not give this "knowledge" the same weight as objective facts, conservatives created their own sources of media to disseminate this partisan information. 3/
Conservatives used this to create the narrative that the mainstream media is corrupted by "liberal bias" -- simply because mainstream media refused to treat partisan information as if it carried the same weight as objective facts. 4/
In doing so, they not only undermined public trust in shared sources of knowledge -- they poisoned our political process by making it impossible to even agree upon a shared set of facts. How can you debate an issue if one side won't even acknowledge that objective facts exist? 5/
Fox News is the vehicle for this partisan information, and they've contributed to the problem far more than any other right-wing media outlet. But ultimately, this is about more than Fox News -- it's about an asymmetric relationship with knowledge producing institutions. 6/
Fox News is successful because of a 50+ year campaign promoting ideological rigidity, hyperpartisanship, & disregard for objective truths as core conservative values. There now exists an entire ecosystem to produce, disseminate, and promote right-wing propaganda as "facts". 7/
And yes, there are left-leaning think tanks and media outlets. But there's nothing comparable to the conservative ecosystem. They literally created an alternative knowledge-producing mechanism & media infrastructure because mainstream media was too objective. 8/
Sledog
it's almost like you only see what you want to see
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Did you attain the typhus or the TDS first? Or simultaneously?BearsWiin said:Existential crisis
Epistemic uncertainty
Distrust of institutions
"What do we really know anyway? So Race's feelings are as good as anybody's facts"
I can explain your whole fucking playbook from those three simple lines
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Berkeley house husband goes to bat for the establishment and decries dissent from orthodoxyBearsWiin said:Existential crisis
Epistemic uncertainty
Distrust of institutions
"The media sucks, they're all as bad as the shit I watch, both sides" yada yada
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Temecula keybored jockey whines about people who know more than he does, those fucking experts
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if the words were too big, you could always look them upPurpleThrobber said:
Did you attain the typhus or the TDS first? Or simultaneously?BearsWiin said:Existential crisis
Epistemic uncertainty
Distrust of institutions
"What do we really know anyway? So Race's feelings are as good as anybody's facts"
I can explain your whole fucking playbook from those three simple lines -
And it exactly like you whining like a bitch and posting a ridiculous screed against Fox News and then crying when people talk about Fox News.BearsWiin said:
you needed some helpSFGbob said:
Yeah how dare they focus on Fox News.BearsWiin said:Your collective insistence on focusing narrowly on Fox News is as silly as your insistence on focusing narrowly on a supposed transcript
it's a lot larger than that
but it doesn't fit your narrowtive
like I said, good talk as always, let's have the same damn convo later
Been thinking a lot about why Trump will survive impeachment when Nixon didn’t. For 20+ years Fox News (and rightwing talk radio) has told GOP voters that Democrats are evil. As lawless as Trump is, Republicans believe Dems are worse. That’s the power of propaganda.
Yes, absolutely. But it goes beyond Fox News. This story can be traced back to the creation of right-wing think tanks, which were founded for the explicit purpose of helping conservatives win the "war of ideas", as former Reagan adviser Murray Weidenbaum once said. 1/
Conservative think-tanks arose from the expectation that conservative ideas deserve the same weight as objective facts. When that didn't happen, conservatives cried "liberal bias" and went off & created their own echo-chambers, with think-tanks as the foundation. 2/
Conservative think-tanks exist to produce ideologically-driven "research" and partisan "knowledge". When the media did not give this "knowledge" the same weight as objective facts, conservatives created their own sources of media to disseminate this partisan information. 3/
Conservatives used this to create the narrative that the mainstream media is corrupted by "liberal bias" -- simply because mainstream media refused to treat partisan information as if it carried the same weight as objective facts. 4/
In doing so, they not only undermined public trust in shared sources of knowledge -- they poisoned our political process by making it impossible to even agree upon a shared set of facts. How can you debate an issue if one side won't even acknowledge that objective facts exist? 5/
Fox News is the vehicle for this partisan information, and they've contributed to the problem far more than any other right-wing media outlet. But ultimately, this is about more than Fox News -- it's about an asymmetric relationship with knowledge producing institutions. 6/
Fox News is successful because of a 50+ year campaign promoting ideological rigidity, hyperpartisanship, & disregard for objective truths as core conservative values. There now exists an entire ecosystem to produce, disseminate, and promote right-wing propaganda as "facts". 7/
And yes, there are left-leaning think tanks and media outlets. But there's nothing comparable to the conservative ecosystem. They literally created an alternative knowledge-producing mechanism & media infrastructure because mainstream media was too objective. 8/
Sledog
it's almost like you only see what you want to see
almost
Does your wife at least give you monthly visitation of your balls or is that not part of your arrangement either? -
It isn't my fault that you can't read
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There's another thread today about your experts lying for 20 years about AfghanistanBearsWiin said:Temecula keybored jockey whines about people who know more than he does, those fucking experts
But they have nice resumes
Like Bob McNamara
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That wasn't the question.BearsWiin said:
if the words were too big, you could always look them upPurpleThrobber said:
Did you attain the typhus or the TDS first? Or simultaneously?BearsWiin said:Existential crisis
Epistemic uncertainty
Distrust of institutions
"What do we really know anyway? So Race's feelings are as good as anybody's facts"
I can explain your whole fucking playbook from those three simple lines
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Bears doesn't have balls. They were nailed to a plaque when he enrolled at Cal. That's a complete "no balls" zone.
