I saw manu and Wellington in there for really simple shit like run in a straight line directly at their quarterback.
I saw a lot of Ulo and Sirmon in there most do the game.
Blows it has to come against beavlet but I guess with all the pressure off Jimmy finally got over himself and changed some shit for the better.
It changed a while go, Manu has barely played the last few games and Wellington's snaps have decreased as well.
I mean based on your comments it looks like this isn't just a "down year." It looks like recruiting is turning the program into a 7-9 win venture.
I think a lot about the future will depend on what players come back, if Pete hires a real OC and who USC hires as a head coach but make no mistake about it, Washington is not hiring a coach better than Pete and i’m surprised some fans actually think that.
SC is in the South. We can't even sniff our own division this year.
I agree that UW isn't hiring Urban but I disagree that they can't hire a coach better than Pete. If he can't win the conference in the next 2 seasons then he isn't a good coach by a lot of team's expectations in the Pac 12, not just UW's.
I’m curious who do you think Washington could get to replace Pete that would be better than him?
Mario Christobol. David Shaw. Mike Leach. Justin Wilcox. Kyle Whittingham.
Terry Stotts.
This might just be the dumbest post I've ever read.
If I have my facts straight, FSU are paying Slick Willie 17 million to go away. And we are stressing over a $500,000 buyout? If that is true it would be a stark indication of how small time we are.
Compare ACC payout to PAC 12
We have a $100+ million dollar Adidas deal and we got 3 or so million from our TV deal. Who the hell is handling the money?
Pete does not pick the starters or decide the rotations, the position coach makes those decisions. This god awful LB play falls on one man only and that is Bob Gregory. Not only did he do a poor job of recruiting, he did a terrible job getting the players ready to play. I just hope he doesn't ruin the young talent we have know that he was gifted.
@sonics1993 random question but do you know of any players who have made it known to the coaches they plan on transferring/leaving the team.
Also, who do you think are the best bets to be our starting ILBs next year?
I know of some players considering it but only one I know for sure is gone. With the transfer portal, players don't have to tell the coaches anymore so coaches can be caught off guard just like the fans. To early to predict starting ILB next year with summer and fall practice still to go, along with off season workouts.
@sonics1993 1 aside from Lowe or is he the one you are talking about?
Different, the player is going to let the season finish before putting his name into the portal.
Pete does not pick the starters or decide the rotations, the position coach makes those decisions. This god awful LB play falls on one man only and that is Bob Gregory. Not only did he do a poor job of recruiting, he did a terrible job getting the players ready to play. I just hope he doesn't ruin the young talent we have know that he was gifted.
Maybe the head coach — you know, the guy in charge of everything — should take even a passing interest in which players play.
Radical idea, I know.
Don’t know of any head coach in college that picks starters or the rotation. This isn’t the the NFL, there is so much on the plate of a head coach that they don’t have time to full evaluate each position and pick who should start and how many plays each player should get.
All Pete does is endlessly talk about how they put on the tape, evaluate guys in practice, etc.
I don’t need Pete to be micromanaging minutes played. But if he is half as good a coach and evaluator as he thinks he is, then it’s insane that he is not breaking down the linebackers with lake and kwat and saying something to the effect of “kyler manu is dogshit. Get him off the field and play the younger guys.”
This is like the bare minimum we should expect. If, after 4 losses, he’s not spending a TON of time talking with his coaches about positional talent and who is getting playing time vs who should, then run his ass.
Of course he evaluates the tape and is in the meetings but it's really not that simple. It's easy to say Manu and Wellington suck but have you seen anything from Sirmon and MJ to over take them because they both have been playing quite a bit as well and they both have struggled as well. And the notion that we should even think about firing Pete is hilarious, in our down year we will probably win 8 games.
Agree on Sirmon. Anyone that is clamoring for him now forgets how bad he really was earlier this year. He played worse than either Wellington or Manu against Cal.
That said, there was ample time after that game to get him going against weaker opponents.
I saw manu and Wellington in there for really simple shit like run in a straight line directly at their quarterback.
I saw a lot of Ulo and Sirmon in there most do the game.
Blows it has to come against beavlet but I guess with all the pressure off Jimmy finally got over himself and changed some shit for the better.
It changed a while go, Manu has barely played the last few games and Wellington's snaps have decreased as well.
I mean based on your comments it looks like this isn't just a "down year." It looks like recruiting is turning the program into a 7-9 win venture.
I think a lot about the future will depend on what players come back, if Pete hires a real OC and who USC hires as a head coach but make no mistake about it, Washington is not hiring a coach better than Pete and i’m surprised some fans actually think that.
SC is in the South. We can't even sniff our own division this year.
I agree that UW isn't hiring Urban but I disagree that they can't hire a coach better than Pete. If he can't win the conference in the next 2 seasons then he isn't a good coach by a lot of team's expectations in the Pac 12, not just UW's.
I’m curious who do you think Washington could get to replace Pete that would be better than him?
Mario Christobol. David Shaw. Mike Leach. Justin Wilcox. Kyle Whittingham.
Pete does not pick the starters or decide the rotations, the position coach makes those decisions. This god awful LB play falls on one man only and that is Bob Gregory. Not only did he do a poor job of recruiting, he did a terrible job getting the players ready to play. I just hope he doesn't ruin the young talent we have know that he was gifted.
Maybe the head coach — you know, the guy in charge of everything — should take even a passing interest in which players play.
Radical idea, I know.
Don’t know of any head coach in college that picks starters or the rotation. This isn’t the the NFL, there is so much on the plate of a head coach that they don’t have time to full evaluate each position and pick who should start and how many plays each player should get.
All Pete does is endlessly talk about how they put on the tape, evaluate guys in practice, etc.
I don’t need Pete to be micromanaging minutes played. But if he is half as good a coach and evaluator as he thinks he is, then it’s insane that he is not breaking down the linebackers with lake and kwat and saying something to the effect of “kyler manu is dogshit. Get him off the field and play the younger guys.”
This is like the bare minimum we should expect. If, after 4 losses, he’s not spending a TON of time talking with his coaches about positional talent and who is getting playing time vs who should, then run his ass.
Of course he evaluates the tape and is in the meetings but it's really not that simple. It's easy to say Manu and Wellington suck but have you seen anything from Sirmon and MJ to over take them because they both have been playing quite a bit as well and they both have struggled as well. And the notion that we should even think about firing Pete is hilarious, in our down year we will probably win 8 games.
I "get" that there's excuses for having a down year this year but there's equally as many reasons why it shouldn't have been one.
We? are going to be lucky to win 8 games for the season at this point while having one of the easiest OOC's and all the tough conference games at home.
Stanford and Cal were both abominations regardless of talent "this year".
We are seeing mismanagement all over the place. The offense, clock management, personnel decisions, players regressing, etc.
I'm tired of loser talk about "execution". Make the necessary changes or GTFO.
Junior Adams has recruited well, but if his unit sucks this bad next year, he should be next. I’m not impressed.
Im willing to give both him and Gregory one more year.
Damn near every position group just seems...disjointed this year
I’m more than fine with firing Gregory, but if he stays next year, he will probably be fine. I don’t think he’s a horrible coach. At times he’s been pretty good.
Shoutout to Bob Gregory for Ulofoshio and Sirmons awesome development!!
Sirmon is developing. I was quick to be done with him because he was so bad against Cal. Gregory would actually deserve props for developing Sirmon. He does seem to be getting a lot better.
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That said, there was ample time after that game to get him going against weaker opponents.
bob gregory has to go
Damn near every position group just seems...disjointed this year
We? are going to be lucky to win 8 games for the season at this point while having one of the easiest OOC's and all the tough conference games at home.
Stanford and Cal were both abominations regardless of talent "this year".
We are seeing mismanagement all over the place. The offense, clock management, personnel decisions, players regressing, etc.
I'm tired of loser talk about "execution". Make the necessary changes or GTFO.
Shoutout to Bob Gregory for Ulofoshio and Sirmons awesome development!!