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Name anyone in power calling for Open Borders

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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,070
    edited November 2019
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    The Border Patrol along with ICE are Federal government agencies Hondo. Bernie has stated he wants to "break them up" and dismantle and get rid of them. You claimed that was a lie. This entire thread, the only people lying have been you and Owl. Go fuck yourself Hondo.

    Yeah you aren't delusional. Not at all.
    White flag.

    You claimed this statement was a lie:

    Bernie wants to "dismantle ICE and CBP"

    And for 3 days you called a statement of fact a lie. That's what pathological liars do.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    The Border Patrol along with ICE are Federal government agencies Hondo. Bernie has stated he wants to "break them up" and dismantle and get rid of them. You claimed that was a lie. This entire thread, the only people lying have been you and Owl. Go fuck yourself Hondo.

    Yeah you aren't delusional. Not at all.
    White flag.

    You claimed this statement was a lie:

    Bernie wants to "dismantle ICE and CBP"

    And for 3 days you called a statement of fact a lie. That's what pathological liars do.
    And you've stated he wants open borders (see thread title) and you've stated he wants to end border patrol. Neither if which is true.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,267 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    The Border Patrol along with ICE are Federal government agencies Hondo. Bernie has stated he wants to "break them up" and dismantle and get rid of them. You claimed that was a lie. This entire thread, the only people lying have been you and Owl. Go fuck yourself Hondo.

    Yeah you aren't delusional. Not at all.
    Great response to the fact as always, Captain Ad Hominem
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886
    GDS said:

    It was handled as a civil matter not criminal.

    For decades the government didn’t actively pursue criminal cases under Section 1325, which has been on the books since 1929. Those caught were deported by immigration enforcement.

    It wasn’t until a 2005 program started by President George W. Bush, vowing to curb illegal immigration, that the number of criminal prosecutions soared.

    With “Operation Streamline,” large groups of people were tried all at once and slapped with misdemeanors. There were just under 40,000 criminal prosecutions for immigration that year, and up to 90,000 under former President Barack Obama in 2013, according to a research organization at Syracuse University.

    Misdemeanors are still crimes.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,070
    salemcoog said:

    GDS said:

    It was handled as a civil matter not criminal.

    For decades the government didn’t actively pursue criminal cases under Section 1325, which has been on the books since 1929. Those caught were deported by immigration enforcement.

    It wasn’t until a 2005 program started by President George W. Bush, vowing to curb illegal immigration, that the number of criminal prosecutions soared.

    With “Operation Streamline,” large groups of people were tried all at once and slapped with misdemeanors. There were just under 40,000 criminal prosecutions for immigration that year, and up to 90,000 under former President Barack Obama in 2013, according to a research organization at Syracuse University.

    Misdemeanors are still crimes.
    Scotty was talking straight out of his ass.
  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
    salemcoog said:

    GDS said:

    It was handled as a civil matter not criminal.

    For decades the government didn’t actively pursue criminal cases under Section 1325, which has been on the books since 1929. Those caught were deported by immigration enforcement.

    It wasn’t until a 2005 program started by President George W. Bush, vowing to curb illegal immigration, that the number of criminal prosecutions soared.

    With “Operation Streamline,” large groups of people were tried all at once and slapped with misdemeanors. There were just under 40,000 criminal prosecutions for immigration that year, and up to 90,000 under former President Barack Obama in 2013, according to a research organization at Syracuse University.

    Misdemeanors are still crimes.
    yet pre-04 they were handled as a civil offense not a criminal offense.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,070
    GDS said:

    salemcoog said:

    GDS said:

    It was handled as a civil matter not criminal.

    For decades the government didn’t actively pursue criminal cases under Section 1325, which has been on the books since 1929. Those caught were deported by immigration enforcement.

    It wasn’t until a 2005 program started by President George W. Bush, vowing to curb illegal immigration, that the number of criminal prosecutions soared.

    With “Operation Streamline,” large groups of people were tried all at once and slapped with misdemeanors. There were just under 40,000 criminal prosecutions for immigration that year, and up to 90,000 under former President Barack Obama in 2013, according to a research organization at Syracuse University.

    Misdemeanors are still crimes.
    yet pre-04 they were handled as a civil offense not a criminal offense.
    Not all of them. You lied Kunt. There were thousands of people processed criminally for entering the country illegally prior to 2004. You pulled that claim straight out of your ass.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,070
    Title 8 of the U.S. Code identifies federal criminal offenses pertaining to immigration and nationality, including the following two entry-related offenses:

    “Illegal Entry”/8 U.S.C. 1325 makes it a crime to unlawfully enter the United States. It applies to migrants who do not enter with proper inspection at a port of entry, such as those who enter between ports of entry, avoid examination or inspection, or who make false statements while entering or attempting to enter. A first offense is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine, up to six months in prison, or both.

    “Illegal Re-Entry”/8 U.S.C. 1326 makes it a crime to unlawfully reenter, attempt to unlawfully reenter, or to be found in the United States after having been deported, ordered removed, or denied admission. This crime is punishable as a felony with a maximum sentence of two years. Higher penalties apply if the migrant has a criminal record: up to 10 years for a migrant with misdemeanors and simple felonies, and up to 20 years for more serious crimes.


    Both of these have been on the books for over 50 years and thousands of people have been criminally charged and prosecuted for violating these laws during that time.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886
    GDS said:

    salemcoog said:

    GDS said:

    It was handled as a civil matter not criminal.

    For decades the government didn’t actively pursue criminal cases under Section 1325, which has been on the books since 1929. Those caught were deported by immigration enforcement.

    It wasn’t until a 2005 program started by President George W. Bush, vowing to curb illegal immigration, that the number of criminal prosecutions soared.

    With “Operation Streamline,” large groups of people were tried all at once and slapped with misdemeanors. There were just under 40,000 criminal prosecutions for immigration that year, and up to 90,000 under former President Barack Obama in 2013, according to a research organization at Syracuse University.

    Misdemeanors are still crimes.
    yet pre-04 they were handled as a civil offense not a criminal offense.
    Misdemeanors are still crimes.
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