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GDS
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/sondland-asked-ukrainian-officials-during-private-white-house-talk-about-n1067861

Sondland directly contradicted Bolton by telling the Ukrainians that in fact, Trump was committed to meeting with Zelenskiy on the condition he open a corruption investigation, two people told about the matter tell NBC News.

Bolton abruptly ended the meeting.

But, the individuals say, Sondland then invited the Ukrainian officials to continue the conversation separately, escorting them to a private room in the White House basement, the individuals said. That’s when Sondland was overheard discussing Burisma Holdings, whose board of directors former Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden joined in 2014.

Sondland’s explicit conditioning of a meeting between Zelenskiy and Trump prompted Bolton to direct then-Trump Russia adviser Fiona Hill to report the situation to White House lawyers. Although some details about the meeting had been previously disclosed, this account provides the most extensive chronology to date of the chain of events that led Bolton to call the shadow Ukraine policy aimed at advancing Trump’s political interests “a drug deal,” as NBC News has reported.

The account also appears to undercut Sondland’s text message to a senior U.S. official in Ukraine on Sept. 9 that Trump “has been crystal clear no quid pro quo's (sic) of any kind” with the Ukrainian government.

Who had money on Bolton being the good guy???
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886
    Bolton is a patriot. Wrong on so many things, but a patriot.
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    He didn’t want anybpart of the Giuliani and mulvaney drug deal with Ukraine.
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter
    Wanting the truth is a bad thing now. You leftards want to pin a Russian lie on Trump. Trump wants to pin a Ukrainian truth and a chicom truth on Biden. Keep rooting for the away team.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    WestlinnDuck said:

    Wanting the truth is a bad thing now. You leftards want to pin a Russian lie on Trump. Trump wants to pin a Ukrainian truth and a chicom truth on Biden. Keep rooting for the away team.

    Trump lies basically every day.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,682 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    Wanting the truth is a bad thing now. You leftards want to pin a Russian lie on Trump. Trump wants to pin a Ukrainian truth and a chicom truth on Biden. Keep rooting for the away team.

    Trump lies basically every day.
    Sound familiar?
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    Wanting the truth is a bad thing now. You leftards want to pin a Russian lie on Trump. Trump wants to pin a Ukrainian truth and a chicom truth on Biden. Keep rooting for the away team.

    Trump lies basically every day.
    Sound familiar?
    Got that bonus check yet? I ate at ding how today. Was delicious. Liar.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Yikes!
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,428 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    Wanting the truth is a bad thing now. You leftards want to pin a Russian lie on Trump. Trump wants to pin a Ukrainian truth and a chicom truth on Biden. Keep rooting for the away team.

    Trump lies basically every day.
    Sound familiar?
    Got that bonus check yet? I ate at ding how today. Was delicious. Liar.
    You get a bonus check for lying everyday. Hopefully you can buy a hotdog with that check.
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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,002
    You have to love the articles scotti posts by the lib MSM. No names, just "individuals" said this and that. The same shit we got from libs and their media for 2.5 years with the Russia collusion lie.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,682 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    WestlinnDuck said:

    Wanting the truth is a bad thing now. You leftards want to pin a Russian lie on Trump. Trump wants to pin a Ukrainian truth and a chicom truth on Biden. Keep rooting for the away team.

    Trump lies basically every day.
    Sound familiar?
    Got that bonus check yet? I ate at ding how today. Was delicious. Liar.
    You pussed out. Twice. Nothing more need be said.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    Anything interesting today yet??????
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    RaceBannon said:

    Anything interesting today yet??????

    Other then Mulvaney confirming the quid pro quo and Sondland playing CYA by throwing Trump and Rudy under the bus? Nah.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Anything interesting today yet??????

    Other then Mulvaney confirming the quid pro quo and Sondland playing CYA by throwing Trump and Rudy under the bus? Nah.

    Link?

    Is this from the secret hearings? Are you an insider? Did Schiff tell you this when he revealed his iron clad proof of Russian collusion?
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    RaceBannon said:

    GDS said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Anything interesting today yet??????

    Other then Mulvaney confirming the quid pro quo and Sondland playing CYA by throwing Trump and Rudy under the bus? Nah.

    Link?

    Is this from the secret hearings? Are you an insider? Did Schiff tell you this when he revealed his iron clad proof of Russian collusion?
    There was a press briefing in the White House...you are really slipping old man. What day is it?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    So no link then
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club


    When asked about the decision to withhold aid from Ukraine, Mulvaney told reporters that President Trump told him at the time, "This is a corrupt place. Everyone knows this is a corrupt place…Plus, I'm not sure that the other European countries are helping them out either.”

    Mulvaney also added, “Did he also mention me in the past that the corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely. No question about that."

    When questioned on Mulvaney saying that the White House held up security money from Ukraine until the president got assurances, Mulvaney told reporters to “get over it” saying there are going to be political impacts on foreign policy.

    "The corruption of the country, whether or not other countries participating in support of Ukraine, and whether or not cooperating in an ongoing investigation with the department of justice. That is completely legitimate, yes"
    A reporter then questioned Mulvaney on his explanation saying it sounds like a quid-pro-quo to which Mulvaney said: “We do that all the time with foreign policy.”


    I'll take Trumps own words on the transcript over this.

    Mulvaney is right though. I recall a vice president telling the Ukraine to fire a prosecutor or they don't get the money

    Quite common really

    No wonder you guys are operating in secret
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    RaceBannon said:

    So no link then

    Read the Complaint!!!!
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    So we all agree there was a quid pro quo now. Good. At least we are getting somewhere. Also glad you figured how to use that google machine of yours. Progress.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney acknowledged Thursday that U.S. military aid to Ukraine was previously withheld by the administration at least in part because of allegations of interference by the Eastern European nation in the 2016 election.

    "Did he also mention to me in [the] past the corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely," Mulvaney said of a conversation he had with President Donald Trump. "No question about that. But that's it, and that's why we held up the money."


    They lie, it's what they do it's who they are.
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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,002
    edited October 2019
    Like all scotti links that inevitably center around his TDS, they all include a bunch of "this individual" or "sources say". Never a name. We had to endure that bullshit for 2.5 years. It all came crashing down on him but by God he is just sure that they got Trump this time even though the transcripts prove nothing of the sort happened and the ambassador who knows everyone and everything on the Ukraine side said nothing happened.

    Oh and we can't forget that the President of Ukraine has said over and over that nothing happened.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    No we don't

    I googled it it show that you gave your usual mis characterization

    Read the transcript

    No quid pro quo
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    RaceBannon said:

    No we don't

    I googled it it show that you gave your usual mis characterization

    Read the transcript

    No quid pro quo

    What about the promise!!!!
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    Mulvaney on his explanation saying it sounds like a quid-pro-quo to which Mulvaney said: “We do that all the time with foreign policy.”

    Mulvaney is right though. I recall a vice president telling the Ukraine to fire a prosecutor or they don't get the money

    Quite common really.

    Mulvaney confirms the quid pro quo but the defense has now shifted to quid pro quos are common. At one point even Blob admitted if there was a quid pro quo then Trump should be impeached. I have no doubt now that the quid pro quo has been admitted to his defense will likewise shift.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    It becomes more obvious every day why the democrats are in hiding on this

    Leaks some bullshit and get the minions out to peddle it

    It is working to some extent now but as always, at the end they will end up looking stupid
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    RaceBannon said:

    No we don't

    I googled it it show that you gave your usual mis characterization

    Read the transcript

    No quid pro quo

    What about the promise!!!!
    You don’t characterize a quid pro quo as a promise?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    Read the transcript!

    Daddy did not confess!!!!
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    RaceBannon said:

    No we don't

    I googled it it show that you gave your usual mis characterization

    Read the transcript

    No quid pro quo

    What about the promise!!!!
    You don’t characterize a quid pro quo as a promise?
    Anyone see a set of goal posts go whizzing by?
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  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    RaceBannon said:

    No we don't

    I googled it it show that you gave your usual mis characterization

    Read the transcript

    No quid pro quo

    What about the promise!!!!
    You don’t characterize a quid pro quo as a promise?
    Anyone see a set of goal posts go whizzing by?



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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    SFGbob said:

    RaceBannon said:

    No we don't

    I googled it it show that you gave your usual mis characterization

    Read the transcript

    No quid pro quo

    What about the promise!!!!
    You don’t characterize a quid pro quo as a promise?
    Anyone see a set of goal posts go whizzing by?
    Quid pro quo - the PROMISE of something of value exchanged for an advantage or favor by return.
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