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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Antarctic ice coverage has been growing since satellites have been around to observe it back in 1979. Hit all-time records in 2014, had a pull-back, and is growing again. Simple, easy to measure fact. You can scream about land ice thickness (which has also been growing there despite HondoFS claims otherwise), but overall coverage for the reflection of solar energy has been growing.

    Yes, I am...or at least was before I moved on to other things although I still get dragged back into it every now and again. Even have patents on greet technology. No shite you aren't...what you are claiming on water somehow powering vehicles is the lunatic fantasy of perpetual motion which breaks all kind of thermodynamic realities. I'd try to explain it to you but I'm guessing that would go over like a lead brick...

    Or, you could say its on par with a lot of the nutjob claims over the last 50 years on climate...


    Antarctic "Sea ice" is growing idiot. Not total ice in Antarctica. And it's very obvious why it's growing if your pee sized brain will sit and think about it for a minute.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999

    Jesus Christ it's not fucking growing. I don't know what fake news your reading but it's not growing and it's not fucking hard to find that out:

    https://youtu.be/4AagG92VQt0

    Again, you're not capable of explaining fucking anything and you're certainly no scientist and never have been if you don't even know that increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere warms the planet. That's basic science 101 shit. Fucking fraud.
    From a discussion here last week...the bottom plot is the measured Antarctica ice extent since 1979:

    https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2019/06/25/1906556116/F2.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1

    And no, I’m not capable of explaining how a fantasy perpetual motion fraud breaks all sorts of rules of thermodynamics to a guy with a speed limit IQ...you got me there. I guess I have to give back my R&D 100 Award as well...after all, if a guy says you can power a car by turning liquid water into steam who am I to disagree with that logic.

    This has to be a HondoFS burner account, right? There can’t be 2 people this stupid out there...
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019
    Sea ice is different than Antarctic shelf ice. It's telling you that ice breaking off of Antarctica and floating in the ocean is increasing. The ice breaks off and then melts and so the sea ice cycles up and down, each time with the sea level continuing to steadily rise as the old sea ice melts and is replaced by new sea ice. Like I said, a piece of Antarctica twice the size of Rhode Island broke off back in 2017.

    Again, you can't explain shit because you don't know shit. A man who allegedly invented a car that runs on water came running and screaming out of a restaurant saying "they poisoned me!" and then dropped dead soon after. If you don't think that's suspicious of foul play at all something is wrong with you. People that are scam artists who pretend they invented something major don't get mysteriously murdered.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,247 Standard Supporter
    Some basic rules about ice. Take a glass that is filled to the brim with solid ice. Melt it and you have less than a glass full of water. See, water expands when it freezes. This is like kindergarten level intelligence. Melting sea ice does not increase sea levels.
  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,879 Standard Supporter

    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.

    Just because whatever the fuck happened in 1973 or Y2K in 2000 or whatever else were bullshit doesn't mean global warming is. The science is simple and easy to understand. Anybody who chooses not to believe the facts doesn't want to believe it because it scares them.
    I have family in Houston who live on the water. Let me let you in on a lip
    Sledog said:

    The Clintons poisoned him!
    Jeezus.....Stanley Meyer was a fraud. A cheap hustler who was ordered by a judge to repay his investors due to his false claims. His patents have all expired. Anyone can take his ideas and run with them. Now why do you think no one has?

    I find it funny that Strongarmcobra is on here telling everyone they are stupid and ignorant and here he is believing some made up bullshit by a two bit hustler.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999

    Sea ice is different than Antarctic shelf ice. It's telling you that ice breaking off of Antarctica and floating in the ocean is increasing. The ice breaks off and then melts and so the sea ice cycles up and down, each time with the sea level continuing to steadily rise as the old sea ice melts and is replaced by new sea ice. Like I said, a piece of Antarctica twice the size of Rhode Island broke off back in 2017.

    Again, you can't explain shit because you don't know shit. A man who allegedly invented a car that runs on water came running and screaming out of a restaurant saying "they poisoned me!" and then dropped dead soon after. If you don't think that's suspicious of foul play at all something is wrong with you. People that are scam artists who pretend they invented something major don't get mysteriously murdered.

    Yet magically overall it has been growing in size. It’s almost as if snow and really cold temps (temps at all the Antarctica stations have been steady to decreasing the last 30 years) creates more ice or something.

    I do know it is thermodynamically impossible to generate energy (to, say, run a car) by turning liquid water into steam...and I do think it’s appropriate that someone who thinks this is possible is arguing the scientific merits of Global Warming.


  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    2001400ex said:

    Antarctic "Sea ice" is growing idiot. Not total ice in Antarctica. And it's very obvious why it's growing if your pee sized brain will sit and think about it for a minute.
    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

    Go fuck yourself.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735

    Some basic rules about ice. Take a glass that is filled to the brim with solid ice. Melt it and you have less than a glass full of water. See, water expands when it freezes. This is like kindergarten level intelligence. Melting sea ice does not increase sea levels.

    Except the ice that is melting isn't completely submerged in the water you moron. There's this thing called displacement. If the ice is above water level and is breaking off and melting in the water, the water level rises. Dumb shit.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019

    Yet magically overall it has been growing in size. It’s almost as if snow and really cold temps (temps at all the Antarctica stations have been steady to decreasing the last 30 years) creates more ice or something.

    I do know it is thermodynamically impossible to generate energy (to, say, run a car) by turning liquid water into steam...and I do think it’s appropriate that someone who thinks this is possible is arguing the scientific merits of Global Warming.


    I googled "Antarctic melt":

    https://businessinsider.com/antarctic-glacier-on-way-to-irreversible-melt-2019-7

    https://theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/09/glacial-melting-in-antarctica-may-become-irreversible

    https://nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/02/antarctic-greenland-ice-melt-less-bad/

    Business Insider, The Guardian, National Geographic all reporting that Antarctica is melting at an accelerated rate. I could go on and on and on. What's the conspiracy here? Why do all the scientists and subsequently credible news source reporting that it's cracking and melting if it's not? And how would sea level be rising without the melting of the polar ice caps?
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

    Go fuck yourself.
    Lol you fucking IDIOT!!

    This is the first sentence of your article:

    "A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers."

    So snow that has accumulated over thousands of years is compacting on itself and making new ice deep underneath it at a faster rate than the surface ice is melting. BUT, it states right fucking there for your dumb ass to read: "increased losses from it's thinning glaciers".

    We haven't had THOUSANDS OF YEARS of man made global warming. You would expect snow accumulation over ten thousand years to be massive and the subsequent deep ice creation beneath it to still be more than the surface ice that is melting.

    But that's fucking irrelevant. You know why? Because the melting of the ice is INCREASING and will intercept the amount of deep ice created by the compacting snow. It's just a matter of time. That's not at all proof that global warming isn't happening. It confirms it. Eat shit.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999

    Lol you fucking IDIOT!!

    This is the first sentence of your article:

    "A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers."

    So snow that has accumulated over thousands of years is compacting on itself and making new ice deep underneath it at a faster rate than the surface ice is melting. BUT, it states right fucking there for your dumb ass to read: "increased losses from it's thinning glaciers".

    We haven't had THOUSANDS OF YEARS of man made global warming. You would expect snow accumulation over ten thousand years to be massive and the subsequent deep ice creation beneath it to still be more than the surface ice that is melting.

    But that's fucking irrelevant. You know why? Because the melting of the ice is INCREASING and will intercept the amount of deep ice created by the compacting snow. It's just a matter of time. That's not at all proof that global warming isn't happening. It confirms it. Eat shit.
    You really are HondoFSv2. Even though the overall ice is increasing (and hey, according to CobraFS it’s been accumulating for thousands of years and doesn’t move so the pile is going to the moon soon...) and the overall ice coverage of Antarctica has been going up for 30 years it’s really proof of GW and everything shrinking. BRILLIANT!!!!

    Of course, this is the same idiot that somehow thinks boiling water somehow creates enough energy to power a car and magically recover all the energy used to boil the water...
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,901
    Gwad said:

    We are talking about temperature data from 1850 to now bro. The hottest ever since we started recording. Look at the charts and graphs dawg.
    There wasn't much data of weather stations outside of North America available prior to the 1940's,so there's that.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 36,850 Standard Supporter
    You lefties have to stop eating Mexican food your gas is destroying the planet! In fact just stop eating all together.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,810 Swaye's Wigwam

    The religious and apocalyptic Left does little help to actually come up with real long term solutions to this. "12 years" is the perfect type of idiotic statement that makes the entire discussion so dismissable. IT IS religion and ideology when there is no room for pragmatism.

    Look no further than some of the poasters in this thread to see that they do more damage to the cause of moving the issue forward by arguing for it than they would if they just STFU.

    Bump.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    You really are HondoFSv2. Even though the overall ice is increasing (and hey, according to CobraFS it’s been accumulating for thousands of years and doesn’t move so the pile is going to the moon soon...) and the overall ice coverage of Antarctica has been going up for 30 years it’s really proof of GW and everything shrinking. BRILLIANT!!!!

    Of course, this is the same idiot that somehow thinks boiling water somehow creates enough energy to power a car and magically recover all the energy used to boil the water...
    But you’re only talking about SEA ICE!!1!1! W w
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