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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    Lol holy shit? People still don't think global warming is real? It's not even debatable and the science is so simple a retard could understand it. When humans burn fossil fuels it releases carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. When solar radiation penetrates the Earth's atmosphere it warms the atmosphere, then warms the surface of the earth, and then it reflects back to outer space. The molecules of greenhouse gases reflect some of that escaping solar radiation back down towards the surface of the Earth. Greenhouse gases, like carbon dioxide, essentially work as planetary insulation. Think of it as clothing. The more clothing you wear, the warmer your body temperature is. It's the same with the plant and greenhouse gases. So, the higher concentration of greenhouse gases that you have in the atmosphere, the more solar radiation will be insulated, and the warmer a plant will be.

    Now, the land biosphere and the oceans absorb some of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, however, humans are releasing too much into the atmosphere for the biosphere and oceans to absorb with is causing a net increase of carbon dioxide to be added to the atmosphere. When that happens, it causes the planet to warm. That's not a hypothesis. It's a scientific fact as simple as 2+2. More carbon dioxide in an atmosphere = a warmer planet. Humans are increasing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere so the planet is getting warmer and it is man made climate change.

    Fucking of course it is you idiots. How dumb can people be to think we can burn trillions of gallons of gasoline driving cars and shit and the exhaust from burning that fuel isn't going to do anything to the world we live in. Of course it is and it's now a serious problem.

    Yes, the planet does go through changing climate cycles naturally over millions of years. However, the recent warming of the planet is 100% man made. The average temperature of the planet has steadily increased. More and more of the planets ice caps are melting every year as evidenced by rising sea levels. This only worsen the problem because ice and snow are the most reflective surfaces for reflecting solar radiation. It's called albedo or the "whiteness of the planet". The less albedo a planet has the less solar radiation it can reflect back into space.

    Global warming also doesn't just mean a warmer plant overall because a warmer planet causes weather extremes. Summers become hotter. Winters become colder. And hurricanes become stronger. We have already seen this happening. Record high temperatures all over the country and record low temperatures just this past Winter. The cold in the mid-West is now becoming life threatening. The flooding of Texas and the Houston area due to Hurricane Harvey is another example of a more extreme weather patterns. The southeast is becoming unlivable due to more powerful hurricanes.

    You don't get to deny simple science just because it scares you or the political party you follow denies it because they are corrupted by the fossil fuel industry. That's the real motivation behind denying man-made climate change. The oil industry and coal industry have corrupted the government with their money to prevent real changes to our sources of energy.

    The U.S. government has suppressed innovation in the energy sector for decades because of this corruption. Our energy system is 19th century energy. People have invented shit that would change the world like cars that run on hydrogen or water and shit and those patents and those people have all be suppressed by the government.

    The bottom line is, man-made climate change is not debatable. If you increase the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the planet gets warmer because that's what greenhouse gases do and carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. Methane is even worse, but the main problem is the carbon emissions.

    Oh God dammit, now you're here?
    Just stopped by. Thot I'd drop some knowledge and educate.
    When are you going to start?
    Already did. If you're still a climate change denier in 2019, man oh man are you dumb. Do your research. And that doesn't include watching propaganda on Fox News or right wing sources with bullshit talking points about how the planet always has a changing climate and it's supposed to happen. Where the fuck do you think all the carbon dioxide goes when you drive your car?
    Damn. That was early to go into 'you're too dumb to understand' mode.

    Put 8 in the box.

    It's not difficult or complicated science. It's very simple. I'm not a science expert at all and I understand it just fine.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,011

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

    Do you really think timber companies manage a forest better than mother nature?
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited July 2019
    I'll say it again, the 'climate change' narrative is a scam. Governments CAN and DO manipulate the weather:

    https://youtu.be/srSrtFsptm0
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Look it up!!!!1!1
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,001

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal living people due to rising sea levels. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow due to weather extremes. This will cause the prices for food to rise substantially. 7 billion people need to eat. How far away are we from that stuff happening? I don't know. I'm not a scientist. Could be 50 years. Could be 150. Could be 300. Imagine living in an America in which the Southeast is no longer livable due to hurricanes every year. Imagine the effect that would have on the U.S. economy. Imagine all the desperate people from that part of country displaced, spreading out to the rest of the country, and trying to survive and take care of their families. It sets up a Mad Max like dystopia of lawlessness because people will become desperate to survive.
    LOL. The prognostications just continue on. According to HH we are going to die any day now since the 1950's.

    How many predictions do we have to outlive for idiots like this to die off?

    Go build a shelter and hope for the worst SAC.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,709 Founders Club

    Lol holy shit? People still don't think global warming is real? It's not even debatable and the science is so simple a retard could understand it. When humans burn fossil fuels it releases carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. When solar radiation penetrates the Earth's atmosphere it warms the atmosphere, then warms the surface of the earth, and then it reflects back to outer space. The molecules of greenhouse gases reflect some of that escaping solar radiation back down towards the surface of the Earth. Greenhouse gases, like carbon dioxide, essentially work as planetary insulation. Think of it as clothing. The more clothing you wear, the warmer your body temperature is. It's the same with the plant and greenhouse gases. So, the higher concentration of greenhouse gases that you have in the atmosphere, the more solar radiation will be insulated, and the warmer a plant will be.

    Now, the land biosphere and the oceans absorb some of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, however, humans are releasing too much into the atmosphere for the biosphere and oceans to absorb with is causing a net increase of carbon dioxide to be added to the atmosphere. When that happens, it causes the planet to warm. That's not a hypothesis. It's a scientific fact as simple as 2+2. More carbon dioxide in an atmosphere = a warmer planet. Humans are increasing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere so the planet is getting warmer and it is man made climate change.

    Fucking of course it is you idiots. How dumb can people be to think we can burn trillions of gallons of gasoline driving cars and shit and the exhaust from burning that fuel isn't going to do anything to the world we live in. Of course it is and it's now a serious problem.

    Yes, the planet does go through changing climate cycles naturally over millions of years. However, the recent warming of the planet is 100% man made. The average temperature of the planet has steadily increased. More and more of the planets ice caps are melting every year as evidenced by rising sea levels. This only worsen the problem because ice and snow are the most reflective surfaces for reflecting solar radiation. It's called albedo or the "whiteness of the planet". The less albedo a planet has the less solar radiation it can reflect back into space.

    Global warming also doesn't just mean a warmer plant overall because a warmer planet causes weather extremes. Summers become hotter. Winters become colder. And hurricanes become stronger. We have already seen this happening. Record high temperatures all over the country and record low temperatures just this past Winter. The cold in the mid-West is now becoming life threatening. The flooding of Texas and the Houston area due to Hurricane Harvey is another example of a more extreme weather patterns. The southeast is becoming unlivable due to more powerful hurricanes.

    You don't get to deny simple science just because it scares you or the political party you follow denies it because they are corrupted by the fossil fuel industry. That's the real motivation behind denying man-made climate change. The oil industry and coal industry have corrupted the government with their money to prevent real changes to our sources of energy.

    The U.S. government has suppressed innovation in the energy sector for decades because of this corruption. Our energy system is 19th century energy. People have invented shit that would change the world like cars that run on hydrogen or water and shit and those patents and those people have all be suppressed by the government.

    The bottom line is, man-made climate change is not debatable. If you increase the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the planet gets warmer because that's what greenhouse gases do and carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. Methane is even worse, but the main problem is the carbon emissions.

    Oh God dammit, now you're here?
    Just stopped by. Thot I'd drop some knowledge and educate.
    When are you going to start?
    Already did. If you're still a climate change denier in 2019, man oh man are you dumb. Do your research. And that doesn't include watching propaganda on Fox News or right wing sources with bullshit talking points about how the planet always has a changing climate and it's supposed to happen. Where the fuck do you think all the carbon dioxide goes when you drive your car?
    Damn. That was early to go into 'you're too dumb to understand' mode.

    Put 8 in the box.

    It's not difficult or complicated science. It's very simple. I'm not a science expert at all and I understand it just fine.
    That's what you think anyway

    Gee the simple minded want to turn their lives over to leaders because it's simple

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,011
    2001400ex said:

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

    Do you really think timber companies manage a forest better than mother nature?
    Ax the tuff logger boys here. Relative to human comfort, hell yes. This wildfire stuff was none existent in the Throbber's youth. Now August and September have hazardous air quality readings virtually every day in Washington, Idaho and Montana. Can't go outside at the G&R Compound without burning eyes and scratchy throat - which, ironically are some of the symptoms of typhus in CD's backyard but I digress.

    Point being, Ma Nature has ebbed and flowed with humans for the centuries. Sometimes we? win, sometimes she does. Irish Potato Famine anyone? Cool moist weather caused blight. Blight kills taters. Micks died in bunches, smart micks jumped on a boat for 'murica.

    As Damone points out, we're? not going to just stand around flapping our arms.




  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019

    Lol holy shit? People still don't think global warming is real? It's not even debatable and the science is so simple a retard could understand it. When humans burn fossil fuels it releases carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. When solar radiation penetrates the Earth's atmosphere it warms the atmosphere, then warms the surface of the earth, and then it reflects back to outer space. The molecules of greenhouse gases reflect some of that escaping solar radiation back down towards the surface of the Earth. Greenhouse gases, like carbon dioxide, essentially work as planetary insulation. Think of it as clothing. The more clothing you wear, the warmer your body temperature is. It's the same with the plant and greenhouse gases. So, the higher concentration of greenhouse gases that you have in the atmosphere, the more solar radiation will be insulated, and the warmer a plant will be.

    Now, the land biosphere and the oceans absorb some of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, however, humans are releasing too much into the atmosphere for the biosphere and oceans to absorb with is causing a net increase of carbon dioxide to be added to the atmosphere. When that happens, it causes the planet to warm. That's not a hypothesis. It's a scientific fact as simple as 2+2. More carbon dioxide in an atmosphere = a warmer planet. Humans are increasing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere so the planet is getting warmer and it is man made climate change.

    Fucking of course it is you idiots. How dumb can people be to think we can burn trillions of gallons of gasoline driving cars and shit and the exhaust from burning that fuel isn't going to do anything to the world we live in. Of course it is and it's now a serious problem.

    Yes, the planet does go through changing climate cycles naturally over millions of years. However, the recent warming of the planet is 100% man made. The average temperature of the planet has steadily increased. More and more of the planets ice caps are melting every year as evidenced by rising sea levels. This only worsen the problem because ice and snow are the most reflective surfaces for reflecting solar radiation. It's called albedo or the "whiteness of the planet". The less albedo a planet has the less solar radiation it can reflect back into space.

    Global warming also doesn't just mean a warmer plant overall because a warmer planet causes weather extremes. Summers become hotter. Winters become colder. And hurricanes become stronger. We have already seen this happening. Record high temperatures all over the country and record low temperatures just this past Winter. The cold in the mid-West is now becoming life threatening. The flooding of Texas and the Houston area due to Hurricane Harvey is another example of a more extreme weather patterns. The southeast is becoming unlivable due to more powerful hurricanes.

    You don't get to deny simple science just because it scares you or the political party you follow denies it because they are corrupted by the fossil fuel industry. That's the real motivation behind denying man-made climate change. The oil industry and coal industry have corrupted the government with their money to prevent real changes to our sources of energy.

    The U.S. government has suppressed innovation in the energy sector for decades because of this corruption. Our energy system is 19th century energy. People have invented shit that would change the world like cars that run on hydrogen or water and shit and those patents and those people have all be suppressed by the government.

    The bottom line is, man-made climate change is not debatable. If you increase the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the planet gets warmer because that's what greenhouse gases do and carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. Methane is even worse, but the main problem is the carbon emissions.

    Oh God dammit, now you're here?
    Just stopped by. Thot I'd drop some knowledge and educate.
    When are you going to start?
    Already did. If you're still a climate change denier in 2019, man oh man are you dumb. Do your research. And that doesn't include watching propaganda on Fox News or right wing sources with bullshit talking points about how the planet always has a changing climate and it's supposed to happen. Where the fuck do you think all the carbon dioxide goes when you drive your car?
    Damn. That was early to go into 'you're too dumb to understand' mode.

    Put 8 in the box.

    It's not difficult or complicated science. It's very simple. I'm not a science expert at all and I understand it just fine.
    That's what you think anyway

    Gee the simple minded want to turn their lives over to leaders because it's simple

    What the fuck are you talking about? Global warming isn't some left wing conspiracy to turn our lives over to the government. What have you been watching and what are you smoking? It's simple science. The government has SUPPRESSED actions to innovate our energy sector because of the fossil fuel industry. It's about taking power back from the government to change our current energy system. Not giving the government power over our lives. Jesus. The government having too much power is exactly the fucking problem because they are corrupt.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal living people due to rising sea levels. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow due to weather extremes. This will cause the prices for food to rise substantially. 7 billion people need to eat. How far away are we from that stuff happening? I don't know. I'm not a scientist. Could be 50 years. Could be 150. Could be 300. Imagine living in an America in which the Southeast is no longer livable due to hurricanes every year. Imagine the effect that would have on the U.S. economy. Imagine all the desperate people from that part of country displaced, spreading out to the rest of the country, and trying to survive and take care of their families. It sets up a Mad Max like dystopia of lawlessness because people will become desperate to survive.
    LOL. The prognostications just continue on. According to HH we are going to die any day now since the 1950's.

    How many predictions do we have to outlive for idiots like this to die off?

    Go build a shelter and hope for the worst SAC.
    My god. I'm not hoping for the worst. I'm recognizing simple facts. This fact causes this fact which causes this fact. More carbon dioxide in the atmosphere causes a warmer planet, a warmer planet causes more extreme weather and storms and rising sea levels, more extreme weather and storms and rising sea levels has a serious effect on human populations.

    Yes, you old fucks have outlived total bullshit doomsday predictions. This isn't one of them. It's simple science. It's as simple as putting clothes on your body to raise your body temperature.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,709 Founders Club

    Lol holy shit? People still don't think global warming is real? It's not even debatable and the science is so simple a retard could understand it. When humans burn fossil fuels it releases carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. When solar radiation penetrates the Earth's atmosphere it warms the atmosphere, then warms the surface of the earth, and then it reflects back to outer space. The molecules of greenhouse gases reflect some of that escaping solar radiation back down towards the surface of the Earth. Greenhouse gases, like carbon dioxide, essentially work as planetary insulation. Think of it as clothing. The more clothing you wear, the warmer your body temperature is. It's the same with the plant and greenhouse gases. So, the higher concentration of greenhouse gases that you have in the atmosphere, the more solar radiation will be insulated, and the warmer a plant will be.

    Now, the land biosphere and the oceans absorb some of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, however, humans are releasing too much into the atmosphere for the biosphere and oceans to absorb with is causing a net increase of carbon dioxide to be added to the atmosphere. When that happens, it causes the planet to warm. That's not a hypothesis. It's a scientific fact as simple as 2+2. More carbon dioxide in an atmosphere = a warmer planet. Humans are increasing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere so the planet is getting warmer and it is man made climate change.

    Fucking of course it is you idiots. How dumb can people be to think we can burn trillions of gallons of gasoline driving cars and shit and the exhaust from burning that fuel isn't going to do anything to the world we live in. Of course it is and it's now a serious problem.

    Yes, the planet does go through changing climate cycles naturally over millions of years. However, the recent warming of the planet is 100% man made. The average temperature of the planet has steadily increased. More and more of the planets ice caps are melting every year as evidenced by rising sea levels. This only worsen the problem because ice and snow are the most reflective surfaces for reflecting solar radiation. It's called albedo or the "whiteness of the planet". The less albedo a planet has the less solar radiation it can reflect back into space.

    Global warming also doesn't just mean a warmer plant overall because a warmer planet causes weather extremes. Summers become hotter. Winters become colder. And hurricanes become stronger. We have already seen this happening. Record high temperatures all over the country and record low temperatures just this past Winter. The cold in the mid-West is now becoming life threatening. The flooding of Texas and the Houston area due to Hurricane Harvey is another example of a more extreme weather patterns. The southeast is becoming unlivable due to more powerful hurricanes.

    You don't get to deny simple science just because it scares you or the political party you follow denies it because they are corrupted by the fossil fuel industry. That's the real motivation behind denying man-made climate change. The oil industry and coal industry have corrupted the government with their money to prevent real changes to our sources of energy.

    The U.S. government has suppressed innovation in the energy sector for decades because of this corruption. Our energy system is 19th century energy. People have invented shit that would change the world like cars that run on hydrogen or water and shit and those patents and those people have all be suppressed by the government.

    The bottom line is, man-made climate change is not debatable. If you increase the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the planet gets warmer because that's what greenhouse gases do and carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. Methane is even worse, but the main problem is the carbon emissions.

    Oh God dammit, now you're here?
    Just stopped by. Thot I'd drop some knowledge and educate.
    When are you going to start?
    Already did. If you're still a climate change denier in 2019, man oh man are you dumb. Do your research. And that doesn't include watching propaganda on Fox News or right wing sources with bullshit talking points about how the planet always has a changing climate and it's supposed to happen. Where the fuck do you think all the carbon dioxide goes when you drive your car?
    Damn. That was early to go into 'you're too dumb to understand' mode.

    Put 8 in the box.

    It's not difficult or complicated science. It's very simple. I'm not a science expert at all and I understand it just fine.
    That's what you think anyway

    Gee the simple minded want to turn their lives over to leaders because it's simple

    What the fuck are you talking about? Global warming isn't some left wing conspiracy to turn our lives over to the government. What have you been watching and what are you smoking? It's simple science. The government has SUPPRESSED actions to innovate our energy sector because of the fossil fuel industry. It's about taking power back from the government to change our current energy system. Not giving the government power over our lives. Jesus. The government having too much power is exactly the fucking problem because they are corrupt.
    Its exactly about turning our lives over to the government

    Invent a crisis and be the solution

    Pay attention kid. It's our world war 2. You don't go there and say never mind
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

    It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine and happen very slowly over millions of years. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    Hey...all you members of the global warming religion. You now have HondoFS and StrongArmCobra declaring their “scientific” knowledge on the subject.

    If that doesn’t make you think twice not sure anything can help you...
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,709 Founders Club

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

    It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.
    We don't have the technology

    It doesn't exist

  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

    It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine and happen very slowly over millions of years. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.
    I heard the car companies have the technology to make cars run on water but they are keeping it from everybody because Big Oil paid them off.

    I think I read it on Wikipedia...
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

    It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine and happen very slowly over millions of years. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.
    I heard the car companies have the technology to make cars run on water but they are keeping it from everybody because Big Oil paid them off.

    I think I read it on Wikipedia...
    That would be a lot more plausible than denying that more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere causes global warming.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,651 Standard Supporter

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

    It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.
    We don't have the technology

    It doesn't exist

    Yes it fucking does. Research Stanley Meyer. He invented a car that runs on water back in the 90's. He died after eating at a restaurant and running out of the restaurant screaming "they poisoned me". Every major invention that threatens the fossil fuel industry is suppressed by the government.
    The Clintons poisoned him!
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

    It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine and happen very slowly over millions of years. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.
    I heard the car companies have the technology to make cars run on water but they are keeping it from everybody because Big Oil paid them off.

    I think I read it on Wikipedia...
    That would be a lot more plausible than denying that more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere causes global warming.
    In isolation sure. But in isolation it’s also raises temperatures a meaningless amount in the quantities we are talking about...you realize it’s measured in ppm levels, right? Even the climate modelers understand this which is why they have to add all these crazy amplifying/magnifying phenomenon that they think might maybe occur with increased CO2 levels to get global warming (which why the models have been horrible at predicting temps...)

    But you also think converting water into water can somehow power a car so we know thermodynamics is not your thing...you should stick to you big back theories and leave the trophy for giving threads aids around here to HondoFS.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

    It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine and happen very slowly over millions of years. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.
    I heard the car companies have the technology to make cars run on water but they are keeping it from everybody because Big Oil paid them off.

    I think I read it on Wikipedia...
    That would be a lot more plausible than denying that more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere causes global warming.
    In isolation sure. But in isolation it’s also raises temperatures a meaningless amount in the quantities we are talking about...you realize it’s measured in ppm levels, right? Even the climate modelers understand this which is why they have to add all these crazy amplifying/magnifying phenomenon that they think might maybe occur with increased CO2 levels to get global warming (which why the models have been horrible at predicting temps...)

    But you also think converting water into water can somehow power a car so we know thermodynamics is not your thing...you should stick to you big back theories and leave the trophy for giving threads aids around here to HondoFS.
    Yeah no, you're wrong and uneducated. One degree of temperature change to the average global temperature is a massive difference in temperature that has big implications. Simply the polar ice caps melting is a huge deal and it doesn't take a big numeric temperature change for that to happen because obviously it's already happening. Those ice caps cool the planet by reflecting more solar radiation back out to space. With less of them, it causes a multiplier effect to the warming.

    I didn't say the car runs on water AND emits water. One invention is a car that runs on hydrogen and emits water. Another is a car that runs on water and emits water vapor. Both have already been invented and suppressed by the government. Inventions like this have been erased and ignored on purpose. Again, trillions of dollars at stake.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,709 Founders Club
    Cobra pretty much closes the case on the indoctrination of our youths

    Like a religion or something
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

    It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine and happen very slowly over millions of years. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.
    I heard the car companies have the technology to make cars run on water but they are keeping it from everybody because Big Oil paid them off.

    I think I read it on Wikipedia...
    That would be a lot more plausible than denying that more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere causes global warming.
    In isolation sure. But in isolation it’s also raises temperatures a meaningless amount in the quantities we are talking about...you realize it’s measured in ppm levels, right? Even the climate modelers understand this which is why they have to add all these crazy amplifying/magnifying phenomenon that they think might maybe occur with increased CO2 levels to get global warming (which why the models have been horrible at predicting temps...)

    But you also think converting water into water can somehow power a car so we know thermodynamics is not your thing...you should stick to you big back theories and leave the trophy for giving threads aids around here to HondoFS.
    Yeah no, you're wrong and uneducated. One degree of temperature change to the average global temperature is a massive difference in temperature that has big implications. Simply the polar ice caps melting is a huge deal and it doesn't take a big numeric temperature change for that to happen because obviously it's already happening. Those ice caps cool the planet by reflecting more solar radiation back out to space. With less of them, it causes a multiplier effect to the warming.

    I didn't say the car runs on water AND emits water. One invention is a car that runs on hydrogen and emits water. Another is a car that runs on water and emits water vapor. Both have already been invented and suppressed by the government. Inventions like this have been erased and ignored on purpose. Again, trillions of dollars at stake.
    Where again did I say a degree increase? I said a meaningless amount. And the Arctic ice is shrinking and Antarctic ice is growing...minor details though.

    I’m the “uneducated” one, yet you broadcast your intelligence by saying that converting liquid water to water vapor somehow makes more sense than converting water to water...you can’t make this shite up, thermodynamics be damned...

    HondoFS has to be smiling that you showed up...
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019

    I’m not convinced climate change is necessarily bad

    The melting of the ice caps will displace millions of coastal people. Some will be able to simply move further in land but others will be homeless and a massive economic burden around the world. Food will become increasingly difficult to grow. 7 billion people need to eat.
    I’ll never forget the “people are going to starve to death” scare of 1973.

    So technology and people won’t adapt? We will just run in place flapping our arms?

    Are we at peak oil yet? That would have solved everything.

    Let’s assume we? Solve climate change. Whew! Dodged a bullet. You’ll be dead within 81 years. What do you think earth will be like in 1000 years? 10000? 1000000?
    We're already feeling the negative effects of it already. Ask people in Houston who lived there for decades until there house was under water how they feel about climate change. It's not something that's coming 1,000 years from now. It's here and it's going to be here and getting worse the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
    Ax the people in New Orleans who live below sea level, too....because, well, gravity.

    Or maybe the folks in Central/Eastern WA who get smoked out every summer because the timber companies are no longer allowed to properly manage the forest - so nature does it the old fashioned way by burning the shit growth.

    This shit has gone on eons.

    It hasn't been man made for eons and it hasn't changed at such an accelerated rate before minus massive volcanic eruptions or asteroid impacts. That's the major difference. Natural climate change is fine and happen very slowly over millions of years. Man made climate change is not. We have the technology to move on from burning fossil fuels for energy. But there are trillions of dollars at stake that very powerful people are not willing to give up and will do anything to prevent us from moving away from.
    I heard the car companies have the technology to make cars run on water but they are keeping it from everybody because Big Oil paid them off.

    I think I read it on Wikipedia...
    That would be a lot more plausible than denying that more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere causes global warming.
    In isolation sure. But in isolation it’s also raises temperatures a meaningless amount in the quantities we are talking about...you realize it’s measured in ppm levels, right? Even the climate modelers understand this which is why they have to add all these crazy amplifying/magnifying phenomenon that they think might maybe occur with increased CO2 levels to get global warming (which why the models have been horrible at predicting temps...)

    But you also think converting water into water can somehow power a car so we know thermodynamics is not your thing...you should stick to you big back theories and leave the trophy for giving threads aids around here to HondoFS.
    Yeah no, you're wrong and uneducated. One degree of temperature change to the average global temperature is a massive difference in temperature that has big implications. Simply the polar ice caps melting is a huge deal and it doesn't take a big numeric temperature change for that to happen because obviously it's already happening. Those ice caps cool the planet by reflecting more solar radiation back out to space. With less of them, it causes a multiplier effect to the warming.

    I didn't say the car runs on water AND emits water. One invention is a car that runs on hydrogen and emits water. Another is a car that runs on water and emits water vapor. Both have already been invented and suppressed by the government. Inventions like this have been erased and ignored on purpose. Again, trillions of dollars at stake.
    Where again did I say a degree increase? I said a meaningless amount. And the Arctic ice is shrinking and Antarctic ice is growing...minor details though.

    I’m the “uneducated” one, yet you broadcast your intelligence by saying that converting liquid water to water vapor somehow makes more sense than converting water to water...you can’t make this shite up, thermodynamics be damned...

    HondoFS has to be smiling that you showed up...
    The Antarctic ice is shrinking and breaking apart. How the fuck do you not know this? There are massive cracks forming in it and a chunk twice the size of Rhode island broke off of it two years ago.

    You keep saying thermodynamics as if you know what the fuck you're talking about. Are you a scientist? I'm not. The point is the car could run on fucking water instead of gas. It had a water fuel cell. It split the water into pure oxygen and pure hydrogen and used both to power a combustion engine with the hydrogen being the combustible element and the oxygen being an oxidizer to make the internal combustion more powerful and the emission was water vapor. That's all I know. No car manufacturers have tried to replicate it since.
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254


    The current solar minimum is driving the cooling trend that started 8-10,000 years ago. It's the sun that drives climate not humans. If you only know temps post-1880 you have no glacial cycle bearing.

    SAC is correct, Stanley Meyer did develop a motor that ran on water from his garden hose, and died from poisoning.

    https://youtu.be/GFIlXaABU54