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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    SFGbob said:

    There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.

    I mean I'm not really pro reparations but there's no denying that there are people still benefiting from the ramifications of slavery and people still suffering from the ramifications thereof. It's not as simple as saying "you were never a slave".

    I'd be pro reparations if I thought it would actually fix anything. The wounds of slavery are too deep to simply throw money at it and think it will go away though.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    greenblood said:

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    Especially when you're Mitch McConnell and there's no way in fucking hell you voted for said presodent.






    Neither did I, don't twist.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    greenblood said:

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    It would be, but that isn't what he said.

    "We tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation, elected an African American president," Barack Obama, in 2008, McConnell said. "I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it. First of all, it would be hard to figure out whom to compensate."

    Unless you also think he was saying that the Civil War was a form of reparations. He is listing how far we have come and what we have already done to address our "original sin" and that we now shouldn't be trying to figure out a way to further "compensate" for that original sin.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    dnc said:

    greenblood said:

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    Especially when you're Mitch McConnell and there's no way in fucking hell you voted for said presodent.






    Neither did I, don't twist.
    McConnell trying to use Obama as proof of the country's progress is hysterically ironic even by McConnell standards.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    SFGbob said:

    greenblood said:

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    It would be, but that isn't what he said.

    "We tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation, elected an African American president," Barack Obama, in 2008, McConnell said. "I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it. First of all, it would be hard to figure out whom to compensate."

    Unless you also think he was saying that the Civil War was a form of reparations. He is listing how far we have come and what we have already done to address our "original sin" and that we now shouldn't be trying to figure out a way to further "compensate" for that original sin.
    Saying we elected a black president to address the original sin of slavery isn't calling it reparations but it's just as FS.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.

    I mean I'm not really pro reparations but there's no denying that there are people still benefiting from the ramifications of slavery and people still suffering from the ramifications thereof. It's not as simple as saying "you were never a slave".

    I'd be pro reparations if I thought it would actually fix anything. The wounds of slavery are too deep to simply throw money at it and think it will go away though.
    If people also think that reparations are going to help bridge the racial divide, they are retarded. Are you telling me poor white people in the South are going to go for this (Even if the funds are coming from only the rich)? Also, they won't just voice their concerns, you potentially could have full on violent racial warfare. That would be good for nobody.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.

    I mean I'm not really pro reparations but there's no denying that there are people still benefiting from the ramifications of slavery and people still suffering from the ramifications thereof. It's not as simple as saying "you were never a slave".

    I'd be pro reparations if I thought it would actually fix anything. The wounds of slavery are too deep to simply throw money at it and think it will go away though.
    How do you quantify the "ramifications" and how do you work out form of compensation for those ramifications? How do you compensate people for slavery who were never slaves?
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.

    I mean I'm not really pro reparations but there's no denying that there are people still benefiting from the ramifications of slavery and people still suffering from the ramifications thereof. It's not as simple as saying "you were never a slave".

    I'd be pro reparations if I thought it would actually fix anything. The wounds of slavery are too deep to simply throw money at it and think it will go away though.
    How do you quantify the "ramifications" and how do you work out form of compensation for those ramifications? How do you compensate people for slavery who were never slaves?
    "I'm not really for reparations."

    hth
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  • TurdBomber
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    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    dnc said:

    greenblood said:

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    Especially when you're Mitch McConnell and there's no way in fucking hell you voted for said


    Neither did I, don't twist.
    McConnell trying to use Obama as proof of the country's progress is hysterically ironic even by McConnell standards.
    Would Obama have won in 1968?

    The country has made massive improvements in race relations and electing Obama is concrete proof.
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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    greenblood said:

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    It would be, but that isn't what he said.

    "We tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation, elected an African American president," Barack Obama, in 2008, McConnell said. "I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it. First of all, it would be hard to figure out whom to compensate."

    Unless you also think he was saying that the Civil War was a form of reparations. He is listing how far we have come and what we have already done to address our "original sin" and that we now shouldn't be trying to figure out a way to further "compensate" for that original sin.
    Saying we elected a black president to address the original sin of slavery isn't calling it reparations but it's just as FS.
    You don't think there was an element of that in Obama's election? I recall Tom Hanks claiming it was one of the reasons he was going to vote for Obama.

    https://youtu.be/UsHNvM8QB4o
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