To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.
Especially when you're Mitch McConnell and there's no way in fucking hell you voted for said presodent.
Neither did I, don't twist.
McConnell trying to use Obama as proof of the country's progress is hysterically ironic even by McConnell standards.
You don't think it's a sign of our progress? Am I the only one that remembers 2008 because I recall hearing non-stop how it was a sign of our progress.
To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.
It would be, but that isn't what he said.
"We tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation, elected an African American president," Barack Obama, in 2008, McConnell said. "I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it. First of all, it would be hard to figure out whom to compensate."
Unless you also think he was saying that the Civil War was a form of reparations. He is listing how far we have come and what we have already done to address our "original sin" and that we now shouldn't be trying to figure out a way to further "compensate" for that original sin.
Saying we elected a black president to address the original sin of slavery isn't calling it reparations but it's just as FS.
You don't think there was an element of that in Obama's election? I recall Tom Hanks claiming it was one of the reasons he was going to vote for Obama.
I couldn't get past the "3/5 of a human being" comment.
The misapplication of the 3/5 compromise blows my mind.
If it wasn't for the 3/5 compromise we may have never been able to abolish slavery. Counting blacks as 3/5 of a person rather than a whole person was by far the best thing the Constitution did for the black cause.
People who don't understand this shouldn't comment on it.
There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.
I mean I'm not really pro reparations but there's no denying that there are people still benefiting from the ramifications of slavery and people still suffering from the ramifications thereof. It's not as simple as saying "you were never a slave".
I'd be pro reparations if I thought it would actually fix anything. The wounds of slavery are too deep to simply throw money at it and think it will go away though.
How do you quantify the "ramifications" and how do you work out form of compensation for those ramifications? How do you compensate people for slavery who were never slaves?
"I'm not really for reparations."
hth
Fine, you're not for them. But you just said there are people who are benefiting and people suffering from the "ramifications." Okay, so how would we quantify the ramifications? I'm asking you a question I'm not claiming you're favor of them.
There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.
I mean I'm not really pro reparations but there's no denying that there are people still benefiting from the ramifications of slavery and people still suffering from the ramifications thereof. It's not as simple as saying "you were never a slave".
I'd be pro reparations if I thought it would actually fix anything. The wounds of slavery are too deep to simply throw money at it and think it will go away though.
How do you quantify the "ramifications" and how do you work out form of compensation for those ramifications? How do you compensate people for slavery who were never slaves?
"I'm not really for reparations."
hth
Fine, you're not for them. But you just said there are people who are benefiting and people suffering from the "ramifications." Okay, so how would we quantify the ramifications? I'm asking you a question I'm not claiming you're favor of them.
I don't know how one would quantify it. I don't think there's a way to ever be accurate on it let alone precise. That doesn't mean we should deny such ramifications exist.
To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.
It would be, but that isn't what he said.
"We tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation, elected an African American president," Barack Obama, in 2008, McConnell said. "I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it. First of all, it would be hard to figure out whom to compensate."
Unless you also think he was saying that the Civil War was a form of reparations. He is listing how far we have come and what we have already done to address our "original sin" and that we now shouldn't be trying to figure out a way to further "compensate" for that original sin.
Saying we elected a black president to address the original sin of slavery isn't calling it reparations but it's just as FS.
Yeah, I agree that the one-for-one (or 3 for 1) analogy is pretty dumb.
There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.
I mean I'm not really pro reparations but there's no denying that there are people still benefiting from the ramifications of slavery and people still suffering from the ramifications thereof. It's not as simple as saying "you were never a slave".
I'd be pro reparations if I thought it would actually fix anything. The wounds of slavery are too deep to simply throw money at it and think it will go away though.
How do you quantify the "ramifications" and how do you work out form of compensation for those ramifications? How do you compensate people for slavery who were never slaves?
"I'm not really for reparations."
hth
Fine, you're not for them. But you just said there are people who are benefiting and people suffering from the "ramifications." Okay, so how would we quantify the ramifications? I'm asking you a question I'm not claiming you're favor of them.
I don't know how one would quantify it. I don't think there's a way to ever be accurate on it let alone precise. That doesn't mean we should deny such ramifications exist.
I didn't deny it. But if there is no way to quantify it and you can't even tell me what these "ramifications" are then why is the Congress even holding this hearing?
Does anyone outside of Kentucky even like Mitch McConell? I know conservatives think he's too liberal, liberals think he's an asshole, Trump has vacillated on him. How tf is he still running the GOP Senate?Nobody else wants the jerb?
To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.
It would be, but that isn't what he said.
"We tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation, elected an African American president," Barack Obama, in 2008, McConnell said. "I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it. First of all, it would be hard to figure out whom to compensate."
Unless you also think he was saying that the Civil War was a form of reparations. He is listing how far we have come and what we have already done to address our "original sin" and that we now shouldn't be trying to figure out a way to further "compensate" for that original sin.
Saying we elected a black president to address the original sin of slavery isn't calling it reparations but it's just as FS.
You don't think there was an element of that in Obama's election? I recall Tom Hanks claiming it was one of the reasons he was going to vote for Obama.
I couldn't get past the "3/5 of a human being" comment.
The misapplication of the 3/5 compromise blows my mind.
If it wasn't for the 3/5 compromise we may have never been able to abolish slavery. Counting blacks as 3/5 of a person rather than a whole person was by far the best thing the Constitution did for the black cause.
People who don't understand this shouldn't comment on it.
Agreed, very common left wing talking point. The South would have been more than happy to count slaves as whole persons for purposes of apportionment. But most liberals are dumb parrots, what are you going to do?
There are ramifications from Jim Crow because after the war and slavery there were decades of the same indoctrination of Black inferiority and white supremacy that there was to justify slavery.
Both Blacks and Whites were effected. Some remnants remain. We joke about it in sports. Film room guy. Natural athlete etc.
Not so funny in real life. In the 60s you had overt racists and well meaning ignorant racists.
As time has gone by there are more ignorant than overt left.
The solution is to keep educating and not lose sight of the ultimate goal
Segregation of aid by color is a step back IMO
I go back to the Jesse Jackson of the 80s. Be a victor not a victim. I am somebody. I'm Black and I'm proud. Say it loud
Does anyone outside of Kentucky even like Mitch McConell? I know conservatives think he's too liberal, liberals think he's an asshole, Trump has vacillated on him. How tf is he still running the GOP Senate?Nobody else wants the jerb?
Does anyone outside of Kentucky even like Mitch McConell? I know conservatives think he's too liberal, liberals think he's an asshole, Trump has vacillated on him. How tf is he still running the GOP Senate?Nobody else wants the jerb?
There are ramifications from Jim Crow because after the war and slavery there were decades of the same indoctrination of Black inferiority and white supremacy that there was to justify slavery.
Both Blacks and Whites were effected. Some remnants remain. We joke about it in sports. Film room guy. Natural athlete etc. Articulate (most racist in my opinion)
Not so funny in real life. In the 60s you had overt racists and well meaning ignorant racists.
As time has gone by there are more ignorant than overt left.
The solution is to keep educating and not lose sight of the ultimate goal
Segregation of aid by color is a step back IMO
I go back to the Jesse Jackson of the 80s. Be a victor not a victim. I am somebody. I'm Black and I'm proud. Say it loud
There are ramifications from Jim Crow because after the war and slavery there were decades of the same indoctrination of Black inferiority and white supremacy that there was to justify slavery.
Both Blacks and Whites were effected. Some remnants remain. We joke about it in sports. Film room guy. Natural athlete etc.
Not so funny in real life. In the 60s you had overt racists and well meaning ignorant racists.
As time has gone by there are more ignorant than overt left.
The solution is to keep educating and not lose sight of the ultimate goal
Segregation of aid by color is a step back IMO
I go back to the Jesse Jackson of the 80s. Be a victor not a victim. I am somebody. I'm Black and I'm proud. Say it loud
Messages matter.
I'm available to testify to Congress
Congress is busy with other testimony today....or not.
Does anyone outside of Kentucky even like Mitch McConell? I know conservatives think he's too liberal, liberals think he's an asshole, Trump has vacillated on him. How tf is he still running the GOP Senate?Nobody else wants the jerb?
His response to Stewart on the 9/11 responders issue was proof that he doesn't give a shit and his job is safe. There is no "winning" on that issue, a politician who's still running for something would merely take the lumps and make sure the bill gets passed. Let it die in the news cycle. But McConnell doesn't give a fuck, and he doesn't care how much of an ass he makes of himself. He's the Roger Goodell of Congress.
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Biden needs to get elected
The misapplication of the 3/5 compromise blows my mind.
If it wasn't for the 3/5 compromise we may have never been able to abolish slavery. Counting blacks as 3/5 of a person rather than a whole person was by far the best thing the Constitution did for the black cause.
People who don't understand this shouldn't comment on it.
Both Blacks and Whites were effected. Some remnants remain. We joke about it in sports. Film room guy. Natural athlete etc.
Not so funny in real life. In the 60s you had overt racists and well meaning ignorant racists.
As time has gone by there are more ignorant than overt left.
The solution is to keep educating and not lose sight of the ultimate goal
Segregation of aid by color is a step back IMO
I go back to the Jesse Jackson of the 80s. Be a victor not a victim. I am somebody. I'm Black and I'm proud. Say it loud
Messages matter.
I'm available to testify to Congress
Congress is busy with other testimony today....or not.