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We don't need no stinkin reparations

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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Dude61 said:
    This is either really good satire by Owens or the single stupidest comment in an already stupid debate. I can't tell given his deadpan delivery.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club
    I'm for reparations
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    And btw, of course Hondo is lying again.

    the concept Democrats have brought up have nothing to do with direct compensation to individuals.

    First of all, I always love when Hondo adds in meaningless words like "concept" and "essentially" and "technically" in order to make his words sound more intelligent to his pea sized brain. Hondo there is no single "concept" the Rats are bringing up, and yes there are some reparation "concepts" that do involve direct compensation to individuals, although neither McConnell or myself made that claim. That's just the "concept" of Hondo fucking strawman ass because he is too stupid to address what people actually say and he hates "direct quotes."

    Did you read what McConnell said? Clearly not.
    The Hondo "did you read what he said" Kunt act. Hondo why don't for once in your pathetic life cut the fucking shit and just deal honestly with an issue? Yeah, I read what McConnell said and I read what you said. You fucking lied. McConnell wasn't the one to bring up reparations, he was asked a question about reparations because the House is holding hearings on the topic.

    Do you understand the "concept" of not being a lying Kunt Hondo?
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,534
    Reparations seem to be working out super great for the natives. No probs on the rez like drug abuse and crime, and everyone has tons of cash from the casinos that profit off the white Chinese man's dollar.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,418
    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211

    I'm for reparations

    I just had to buy a new set of tires for my wife's car. Can I count that as reparations and have I now paid my share?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club
    I'm doing my part!
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,850 Standard Supporter
    I'm all in for reparations if the proper people are doing the paying. Since democrats were the slavers they should be the payers. Them and the blacks who sold their own people into slavery.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,731
    SFGbob said:

    There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.

    I mean I'm not really pro reparations but there's no denying that there are people still benefiting from the ramifications of slavery and people still suffering from the ramifications thereof. It's not as simple as saying "you were never a slave".

    I'd be pro reparations if I thought it would actually fix anything. The wounds of slavery are too deep to simply throw money at it and think it will go away though.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,731

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    Especially when you're Mitch McConnell and there's no way in fucking hell you voted for said presodent.






    Neither did I, don't twist.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    It would be, but that isn't what he said.

    "We tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation, elected an African American president," Barack Obama, in 2008, McConnell said. "I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it. First of all, it would be hard to figure out whom to compensate."

    Unless you also think he was saying that the Civil War was a form of reparations. He is listing how far we have come and what we have already done to address our "original sin" and that we now shouldn't be trying to figure out a way to further "compensate" for that original sin.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    dnc said:

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    Especially when you're Mitch McConnell and there's no way in fucking hell you voted for said presodent.






    Neither did I, don't twist.
    McConnell trying to use Obama as proof of the country's progress is hysterically ironic even by McConnell standards.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,731
    SFGbob said:

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    It would be, but that isn't what he said.

    "We tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation, elected an African American president," Barack Obama, in 2008, McConnell said. "I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it. First of all, it would be hard to figure out whom to compensate."

    Unless you also think he was saying that the Civil War was a form of reparations. He is listing how far we have come and what we have already done to address our "original sin" and that we now shouldn't be trying to figure out a way to further "compensate" for that original sin.
    Saying we elected a black president to address the original sin of slavery isn't calling it reparations but it's just as FS.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,418
    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.

    I mean I'm not really pro reparations but there's no denying that there are people still benefiting from the ramifications of slavery and people still suffering from the ramifications thereof. It's not as simple as saying "you were never a slave".

    I'd be pro reparations if I thought it would actually fix anything. The wounds of slavery are too deep to simply throw money at it and think it will go away though.
    If people also think that reparations are going to help bridge the racial divide, they are retarded. Are you telling me poor white people in the South are going to go for this (Even if the funds are coming from only the rich)? Also, they won't just voice their concerns, you potentially could have full on violent racial warfare. That would be good for nobody.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.

    I mean I'm not really pro reparations but there's no denying that there are people still benefiting from the ramifications of slavery and people still suffering from the ramifications thereof. It's not as simple as saying "you were never a slave".

    I'd be pro reparations if I thought it would actually fix anything. The wounds of slavery are too deep to simply throw money at it and think it will go away though.
    How do you quantify the "ramifications" and how do you work out form of compensation for those ramifications? How do you compensate people for slavery who were never slaves?
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,731
    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    There are all kinds of "worst aspects" regarding reparations. Transferring wealth from people who had nothing to do with slavery to people who were never slaves is another one of many.

    I mean I'm not really pro reparations but there's no denying that there are people still benefiting from the ramifications of slavery and people still suffering from the ramifications thereof. It's not as simple as saying "you were never a slave".

    I'd be pro reparations if I thought it would actually fix anything. The wounds of slavery are too deep to simply throw money at it and think it will go away though.
    How do you quantify the "ramifications" and how do you work out form of compensation for those ramifications? How do you compensate people for slavery who were never slaves?
    "I'm not really for reparations."

    hth
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    Especially when you're Mitch McConnell and there's no way in fucking hell you voted for said


    Neither did I, don't twist.
    McConnell trying to use Obama as proof of the country's progress is hysterically ironic even by McConnell standards.
    Would Obama have won in 1968?

    The country has made massive improvements in race relations and electing Obama is concrete proof.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    dnc said:

    SFGbob said:

    To say electing a black president is a form of reparations is stupid. It's just as stupid as being pro reparations in the first place.

    It would be, but that isn't what he said.

    "We tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation, elected an African American president," Barack Obama, in 2008, McConnell said. "I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it. First of all, it would be hard to figure out whom to compensate."

    Unless you also think he was saying that the Civil War was a form of reparations. He is listing how far we have come and what we have already done to address our "original sin" and that we now shouldn't be trying to figure out a way to further "compensate" for that original sin.
    Saying we elected a black president to address the original sin of slavery isn't calling it reparations but it's just as FS.
    You don't think there was an element of that in Obama's election? I recall Tom Hanks claiming it was one of the reasons he was going to vote for Obama.

    https://youtu.be/UsHNvM8QB4o
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