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    whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,273
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    BearsWiin said:

    whlinder said:

    I grew up just outside DC and my dad was a lobbyist. I told my HS government class in 1998 that W would be the next President.

    I don't *think* I really argue it though, I find everything about politics so dumb anymore as it's nothing but cliched bullshit. Detailed policy debates trying to solve complex multi-variate problems are interesting, but those don't exist anymore. Dedicated servants trying to do what's best for their constituents and country don't exist anymore. It's become another game to try to play and win which will burn us eventually.

    That's actually happening at every level of government; you're just choosing to concentrate on the froth
    I try to focus more on the local level since those are real decisions that impact me, save from things like slight tax rate changes. And it happens there too which is honestly worse because there are even fewer checks and balances to identify and stop corruption.

    A dude I golf with, hardcore Republican, was railing about something with local politics and said how he hoped the Republican would win a School Board seat. (You can't openly run with a party for School Board here but you can be endorsed of course) I said I don't hope he wins because a political party shouldn't have any place on a fucking school board. His mind was just blown- the concept of running the schools to make best use of county resources without influence of a party platform had never entered his mind.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,911
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    whlinder said:

    BearsWiin said:

    whlinder said:

    I grew up just outside DC and my dad was a lobbyist. I told my HS government class in 1998 that W would be the next President.

    I don't *think* I really argue it though, I find everything about politics so dumb anymore as it's nothing but cliched bullshit. Detailed policy debates trying to solve complex multi-variate problems are interesting, but those don't exist anymore. Dedicated servants trying to do what's best for their constituents and country don't exist anymore. It's become another game to try to play and win which will burn us eventually.

    That's actually happening at every level of government; you're just choosing to concentrate on the froth
    I try to focus more on the local level since those are real decisions that impact me, save from things like slight tax rate changes. And it happens there too which is honestly worse because there are even fewer checks and balances to identify and stop corruption.

    A dude I golf with, hardcore Republican, was railing about something with local politics and said how he hoped the Republican would win a School Board seat. (You can't openly run with a party for School Board here but you can be endorsed of course) I said I don't hope he wins because a political party shouldn't have any place on a fucking school board. His mind was just blown- the concept of running the schools to make best use of county resources without influence of a party platform had never entered his mind.
    Row boat is a hot bed of reasonable, centrist, political views.
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    whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,273
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    whlinder said:

    I grew up just outside DC and my dad was a lobbyist. I told my HS government class in 1998 that W would be the next President.

    I don't *think* I really argue it though, I find everything about politics so dumb anymore as it's nothing but cliched bullshit. Detailed policy debates trying to solve complex multi-variate problems are interesting, but those don't exist anymore. Dedicated servants trying to do what's best for their constituents and country don't exist anymore. It's become another game to try to play and win which will burn us eventually.

    Just curious how long he lasted as a lobbyist and if you can share what industry he worked for.
    Long time, early 1980s until he was forced into retirement about 10 years ago. He wanted to keep working but Parkinsons...

    Energy policy with a focus on renewable energy. He went to Kyoto in 1997.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    whlinder said:

    BearsWiin said:

    whlinder said:

    I grew up just outside DC and my dad was a lobbyist. I told my HS government class in 1998 that W would be the next President.

    I don't *think* I really argue it though, I find everything about politics so dumb anymore as it's nothing but cliched bullshit. Detailed policy debates trying to solve complex multi-variate problems are interesting, but those don't exist anymore. Dedicated servants trying to do what's best for their constituents and country don't exist anymore. It's become another game to try to play and win which will burn us eventually.

    That's actually happening at every level of government; you're just choosing to concentrate on the froth
    I try to focus more on the local level since those are real decisions that impact me, save from things like slight tax rate changes. And it happens there too which is honestly worse because there are even fewer checks and balances to identify and stop corruption.

    A dude I golf with, hardcore Republican, was railing about something with local politics and said how he hoped the Republican would win a School Board seat. (You can't openly run with a party for School Board here but you can be endorsed of course) I said I don't hope he wins because a political party shouldn't have any place on a fucking school board. His mind was just blown- the concept of running the schools to make best use of county resources without influence of a party platform had never entered his mind.
    While I kind of agree with this it's pretty naive to believe that a School Board candidate that is beholden to the Teacher Unions, and most School Board members are, isn't being influenced by the Rat Party's platform. The teachers unions are nothing more than funding arms of the Rat party,
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    whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,273
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    whlinder said:

    BearsWiin said:

    whlinder said:

    I grew up just outside DC and my dad was a lobbyist. I told my HS government class in 1998 that W would be the next President.

    I don't *think* I really argue it though, I find everything about politics so dumb anymore as it's nothing but cliched bullshit. Detailed policy debates trying to solve complex multi-variate problems are interesting, but those don't exist anymore. Dedicated servants trying to do what's best for their constituents and country don't exist anymore. It's become another game to try to play and win which will burn us eventually.

    That's actually happening at every level of government; you're just choosing to concentrate on the froth
    I try to focus more on the local level since those are real decisions that impact me, save from things like slight tax rate changes. And it happens there too which is honestly worse because there are even fewer checks and balances to identify and stop corruption.

    A dude I golf with, hardcore Republican, was railing about something with local politics and said how he hoped the Republican would win a School Board seat. (You can't openly run with a party for School Board here but you can be endorsed of course) I said I don't hope he wins because a political party shouldn't have any place on a fucking school board. His mind was just blown- the concept of running the schools to make best use of county resources without influence of a party platform had never entered his mind.
    Row boat is a hot bed of reasonable, centrist, political views.
    #SlowStrategy #Elitist
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,131
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    Alexis said:

    When my dad (#1) told me years ago that if I wasn't a liberal in my 20s, I had no heart, and if I wasn't a conservative by my 40s, I had no brains.

    I figured I'd just skip the heart part.

    What passes for conservative today isn’t remotely brainy.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    I hate talking about politics
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,131
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Alexis said:

    When my dad (#1) told me years ago that if I wasn't a liberal in my 20s, I had no heart, and if I wasn't a conservative by my 40s, I had no brains.

    I figured I'd just skip the heart part.

    What passes for conservative today isn’t remotely brainy.
    Another one of the little lies you tell yourself, while you align yourself with a party that is filled with dumbasses like AOC, Maxine Waters and Joe Biden
    The brainy conservatives have been fleeing your populist shit show in droves.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Alexis said:

    When my dad (#1) told me years ago that if I wasn't a liberal in my 20s, I had no heart, and if I wasn't a conservative by my 40s, I had no brains.

    I figured I'd just skip the heart part.

    What passes for conservative today isn’t remotely brainy.
    Another one of the little lies you tell yourself, while you align yourself with a party that is filled with dumbasses like AOC, Maxine Waters and Joe Biden
    The brainy conservatives have been fleeing your populist shit show in droves.
    Oh no! How will we survive the loss of Bill Kristol and David Frum.

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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,749
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    HHusky said:

    Alexis said:

    When my dad (#1) told me years ago that if I wasn't a liberal in my 20s, I had no heart, and if I wasn't a conservative by my 40s, I had no brains.

    I figured I'd just skip the heart part.

    What passes for conservative today isn’t remotely brainy.
    What passes for liberalism today is brainless.
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    CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
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    Swaye said:

    Took the test senior year of high school where it rates how you are on the political spectrum. Teacher, who is like 100 years old, hands out the results and tells me I scored the most conservative test score he has seen in 80 years of giving the test or whatever. So I run for Speaker of the House for our mock bullshit, win, and then proceed to rule with an iron fist making all the white shitheads do my bidding. Yes, 1990 was my high water mark in life. Worth it. Totally.

    The white shitheads did your bidding? Autocratic rule? Sounds like your high water mark came 26 years too soon.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    Your GF's dad is boring. You need to dump her. Like father, like daughter. I promise.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    HHusky said:

    I think it’s because I hate people.

    So you want to control them. Just like Ted Bundy.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,749
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    whlinder said:

    BearsWiin said:

    whlinder said:

    I grew up just outside DC and my dad was a lobbyist. I told my HS government class in 1998 that W would be the next President.

    I don't *think* I really argue it though, I find everything about politics so dumb anymore as it's nothing but cliched bullshit. Detailed policy debates trying to solve complex multi-variate problems are interesting, but those don't exist anymore. Dedicated servants trying to do what's best for their constituents and country don't exist anymore. It's become another game to try to play and win which will burn us eventually.

    That's actually happening at every level of government; you're just choosing to concentrate on the froth
    I try to focus more on the local level since those are real decisions that impact me, save from things like slight tax rate changes. And it happens there too which is honestly worse because there are even fewer checks and balances to identify and stop corruption.

    A dude I golf with, hardcore Republican, was railing about something with local politics and said how he hoped the Republican would win a School Board seat. (You can't openly run with a party for School Board here but you can be endorsed of course) I said I don't hope he wins because a political party shouldn't have any place on a fucking school board. His mind was just blown- the concept of running the schools to make best use of county resources without influence of a party platform had never entered his mind.
    There's nothing more politically driven than school board races. They dictate what the 60k kids in Seattle Public Schools are taught right now. Want them learning about biological reproduction, or gender bending? Don't think that's important?
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,584
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    Swaye said:

    Took the test senior year of high school where it rates how you are on the political spectrum. Teacher, who is like 100 years old, hands out the results and tells me I scored the most conservative test score he has seen in 80 years of giving the test or whatever. So I run for Speaker of the House for our mock bullshit, win, and then proceed to rule with an iron fist making all the white shitheads do my bidding. Yes, 1990 was my high water mark in life. Worth it. Totally.

    Imagine being old enough to remember 1990
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,911
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    Swaye said:

    Took the test senior year of high school where it rates how you are on the political spectrum. Teacher, who is like 100 years old, hands out the results and tells me I scored the most conservative test score he has seen in 80 years of giving the test or whatever. So I run for Speaker of the House for our mock bullshit, win, and then proceed to rule with an iron fist making all the white shitheads do my bidding. Yes, 1990 was my high water mark in life. Worth it. Totally.

    I got a 5 on the AP US Government exam. If I’d have been in your mock bullshit I would have reneged on all my treaties with you.
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