"Collusion" sets up a false choice
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What part of my comment was wrong?pawz said:I didn't think it was possible to be so pathologically full of shit. Until Hondo.
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SFGbob said:
The Steele Dossier wasn’t started until Hillary and the DNC started paying Fusion GPS through the Perkins Coie law firm. It’s a lie to say otherwise which I keep telling you and Hondo. Hondo keeps repeating it because he is a pathological liar, what is your excuse?ApostleofGrief said:
It is fine with me if they investigate this. The investigation started with a tipoff from the Australian intelligence not this report (which was not started by Hillary.) It's a red herring since as I keep reminding you: Trump didn't report his contacts to the FBI.SFGbob said:Isn't it amazing how they have absolutely no interest in the one Presidential campaign that we know for a fact did collude with the Russians in order impact the election.
Hillary paid for a British foreign national to gather dirt on Trump, from his Russian sources, none of which has ever been verified and which the author himself says was mostly bullshit and in all likelihood Russian disinformation that was then used by State Department, the DOJ the FBI and CIA to open up a counter-intelligence investigation on the Trump campaign, and none of you Kunt give a shit.
Why are you not upset about the DNC and Hillary using "Russian operatives" to gather dirt on Trump?
What did you mean by "shtick"? D2 football is entertaining. The competition is nearly as good as D1 and the games are an hour shorter without the fucking stoppages. You can stand pretty much on the sidelines and occasionally pick up the ball.Doogles said:I used to think Apostle's Central football shtick was hilarious. Now I'm actually concerned it's not a bit.
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If only you could read.2001400ex said:
I've posted screenshots from my phone. It's clear you choose to remain ignorant and can't do something as simple as read a report. It's not a long read. And it's organized with a few sets of table of contents right there for you to look at what you want. It's almost like there was a logic to the report.SFGbob said:
Hondo not only lies about what's in the Mueller report, he lies about reading the Mueller report.2001400ex said:Lil lyin Bob refuses to read the Mueller report.
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Odd it's high crimes and misdemeanors. Why did they only list crimes? Because you can't impeach him because you don't LIKE him.RaceBannon said:
High crimes and misdemeanorsApostleofGrief said:You guys are getting still that impeachable offenses need not be illegal
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Why not? Who says?Sledog said:
Odd it's high crimes and misdemeanors. Why did they only list crimes? Because you can't impeach him because you don't LIKE him.RaceBannon said:
High crimes and misdemeanorsApostleofGrief said:You guys are getting still that impeachable offenses need not be illegal
Go ahead and do it.
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Sure. Too bad your a bunch of pussiesCirrhosisDawg said:
Why not? Who says?Sledog said:
Odd it's high crimes and misdemeanors. Why did they only list crimes? Because you can't impeach him because you don't LIKE him.RaceBannon said:
High crimes and misdemeanorsApostleofGrief said:You guys are getting still that impeachable offenses need not be illegal
Go ahead and do it.
Trump can be impeached for any reason and there’s nothing you can do about it. -
If liberals are Pussies, why does Trump constantly whine that he's treated unfairly by liberals?RaceBannon said:
Sure. Too bad your a bunch of pussiesCirrhosisDawg said:
Why not? Who says?Sledog said:
Odd it's high crimes and misdemeanors. Why did they only list crimes? Because you can't impeach him because you don't LIKE him.RaceBannon said:
High crimes and misdemeanorsApostleofGrief said:You guys are getting still that impeachable offenses need not be illegal
Go ahead and do it.
Trump can be impeached for any reason and there’s nothing you can do about it. -
Because you're a pussy2001400ex said:
If liberals are Pussies, why does Trump constantly whine that he's treated unfairly by liberals?RaceBannon said:
Sure. Too bad your a bunch of pussiesCirrhosisDawg said:
Why not? Who says?Sledog said:
Odd it's high crimes and misdemeanors. Why did they only list crimes? Because you can't impeach him because you don't LIKE him.RaceBannon said:
High crimes and misdemeanorsApostleofGrief said:You guys are getting still that impeachable offenses need not be illegal
Go ahead and do it.
Trump can be impeached for any reason and there’s nothing you can do about it. -
Because it isn't a crime, dumbfuck! Like I've tried to explain, a president can be impeached just 'cuz the House says so. The history of high crimes and misdemeanors is ancient, and it is not a legal process. It means for example the House of Commons didn't like somebody's decision making.SFGbob said:
But he could charge everyone at the Trump Tower meeting with that crime, so why didn't he?ApostleofGrief said:
He can't charge a sitting president, if that is what you meanSFGbob said:Why didn't Mueller charge anyone with this crime?
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The impeachment of the King's Chancellor, Michael de la Pole, 1st Earl of Suffolk in 1386 was the first case to use this charge. One charge under this heading alleged that de la Pole broke a promise to Parliament. He had promised to follow the advice of a committee regarding improvement of the kingdom. Another charge said that he failed to pay a ransom for the town of Ghent, and because of that the town fell to the French.
The 1450 impeachment of William de la Pole, 1st Duke of Suffolk, a descendant of Michael's, was next to allege charges under this title. He was charged with using his influence to obstruct justice, cronyism, and wasting public money. Other charges against him included acts of high treason.
Impeachment fell out of use after 1459 but Parliament revived it in the early 17th century to try the King's ministers. In 1621, Parliament impeached the King's Attorney General, Sir Henry Yelverton for high crimes and misdemeanors. The charges included failing to prosecute after starting lawsuits and using authority before it was properly his.
After the Restoration the scope of the charge grew to include negligence, and abuse of power or trust while in office. For example, charges in the impeachment of Edward Russell, 1st Earl of Orford in 1701 included many violations of trust and his position. In this case, he abused his position in the Privy Council to make profits for himself; as Treasurer of the Navy he embezzled funds; and as Admiral of the Fleet he got a commission for the pirate William Kidd.
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Here is snopes: https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/10/25/dnc-clinton-campaign-pay-trump-russia-steele-dossier/SFGbob said:
The Steele Dossier wasn’t started until Hillary and the DNC started paying Fusion GPS through the Perkins Coie law firm. It’s a lie to say otherwise which I keep telling you and Hondo. Hondo keeps repeating it because he is a pathological liar, what is your excuse?ApostleofGrief said:
It is fine with me if they investigate this. The investigation started with a tipoff from the Australian intelligence not this report (which was not started by Hillary.) It's a red herring since as I keep reminding you: Trump didn't report his contacts to the FBI.SFGbob said:Isn't it amazing how they have absolutely no interest in the one Presidential campaign that we know for a fact did collude with the Russians in order impact the election.
Hillary paid for a British foreign national to gather dirt on Trump, from his Russian sources, none of which has ever been verified and which the author himself says was mostly bullshit and in all likelihood Russian disinformation that was then used by State Department, the DOJ the FBI and CIA to open up a counter-intelligence investigation on the Trump campaign, and none of you Kunt give a shit.
Why are you not upset about the DNC and Hillary using "Russian operatives" to gather dirt on Trump?
