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Sirmon Yankoff Couch Sale

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  • ToddTurnerLIVESToddTurnerLIVES Member Posts: 438
    I haven't gone through the 13 pages of chat on this topic so forgive me if this has already been talked about...

    This shit with Haener is so similar to what happened with Camilo Eifler and BBK. In both situations you have a guy who is clearly quantitatively "better" than the other guy in terms on physical ability and, in both cases, the coaches stuck to their try-hard narrative and created a situation where talent didn't get valued as much as being a try-hard.

    It's on the coaches for not putting our most talented players in positions to succeed. Fuck the try-hard shit. Eason has a higher ceiling than Haener and Eifler had a higher ceiling than BBK. If our most talented players are not reaching their potential than that's on the coaches.
  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,961 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited April 2019

    I haven't gone through the 13 pages of chat on this topic so forgive me if this has already been talked about...

    This shit with Haener is so similar to what happened with Camilo Eifler and BBK. In both situations you have a guy who is clearly quantitatively "better" than the other guy in terms on physical ability and, in both cases, the coaches stuck to their try-hard narrative and created a situation where talent didn't get valued as much as being a try-hard.

    It's on the coaches for not putting our most talented players in positions to succeed. Fuck the try-hard shit. Eason has a higher ceiling than Haener and Eifler had a higher ceiling than BBK. If our most talented players are not reaching their potential than that's on the coaches.

    Ahem, BBK was an All-American. Lots of people can't seem to grasp that there's more to college football than physical talent (of which BBK had plenty, by the way, besides height). Yes, we all want otherworldly physical talent on the field, but if they ain't cuttin' the mustard, they ain't gonna play. We can all see when these guys run fast and make big hits, but it's much harder to see the intricacies of the game, on and off the field, where they're fucking up. We get to see 3 hours a week for a few months in Fall. That's it. Yes, Sirmon had arm talent and height. So fucking what? We don't see him practice (when we did, he was shit) and we don't see him in the locker room. He's clearly shit and by many accounts, a whiny bitch off the field who thinks he walks on water. This program is bigger than the individual. Get used to it. This is how it's always been with Pete and yet we just had 8 guys drafted anyway, many of whom were 3* "try-hards". Case closed. Next.

    It's fucking bullshit that just because you're a 3* (and to a greater extent, a white guy), you're automatically considered a "try-hard". 18 of the 32 first round picks this year were 3* guys. "Try hard" GMFG is about to start next to Aaron Donald on the Rams. Give me a fucking break.

    Agree with first section on BBK.

    Disagree on Sirmon- he never got a real shot in this "competition."

    Strongly disagree on your 3* "try-hard" conclusion. First off this board has liked plenty of 3* recruits its more about being a rare human and being highly coveted by UW staff (and other programs to a lesser extent.) The rating system is just an imperfect proxy.

    But regardless, the reason why the majority of first round picks are 3* is because there are something like 10x+ 3* compared to 4/5*. Despite the imprecise nature of the rating system a randomly selected 3* player has a far worse chance of a panning out than a randomly selected 4* and our opinions should and do reflect that.
    Maybe there's a reason why Sirmon didn't get a shot. Maybe it's because he's a piece of shit on and off the field. Somewhere I saw he wasn't liked by his teammates. Pete has standards that the players have to uphold, whether you like it or not. That's how it is and that's how it always will be. Maybe it's just because he's a freaking redshirt freshman who has only been through two spring camps and one fall camp. He's been with the program for ONE YEAR. People generally have to work for their opportunities and not bail at the first block in the road. Good riddance. He's clearly a pussy (agree with StrongArm here) but I don't wish him failure (disagree with StrongArm on this one).
  • rustysavagerustysavage Member Posts: 942
    I'm hearing that both Sirmon and Yanks will transfer to Kansas to compete for starting spot in 2020
  • KrunkJuiceKrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,063
    Gladstone said:

    P12 DPOY National #1 tackling leader 5th round pick and people still hating on BBK i mean what the fuck else could he do to prove himself at this point

    Tackle Bryce Love, Saquan Barkley and Bo Scarbrough in space. Murphy should have been DPOY and tackles are a overrated stat.
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    edited April 2019
    Penace said:

    Put yourself in sirmons shoes. Nobody knows better than him how awful brownsocks was and he started every game for 4 fucking years. Then you see another try hard faggot getting first team reps and you watch him chuck ball's into the fucking turf or throw picks and you say huh....fuck this. Pete plays baby games and I'm sure JS eyes are just as good as yours and mine. How would you like to be a guy with sure fire NFL ability and know you are blocked by some fucking retarded fag who suffers from dwarfism and has a fucking noodle arm?

    THIS

    Can we stop with the noodle arm shit with Haener? Haener's are is fine, it's his inability to put the ball where he wants it to that's the problem.

    He's not Browning, he's a different (worse) kind of shit QB.

    But also this.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,499
    edited April 2019

    Gladstone said:

    P12 DPOY National #1 tackling leader 5th round pick and people still hating on BBK i mean what the fuck else could he do to prove himself at this point

    Tackle Bryce Love, Saquan Barkley and Bo Scarbrough in space. Murphy should have been DPOY and tackles are a overrated stat.
    There are plays that he couldn't make that elite athletes make. That said, I don't think tackles are an overrated stat for a linebacker. Ever. It's kind of his job.
  • Ice_HolmvikIce_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    The worst thing about this is now Pete will never stack qb's together in the same class again. He will go back to first come first served.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited April 2019
    Penace said:

    Put yourself in sirmons shoes. Nobody knows better than him how awful brownsocks was and he started every game for 4 fucking years. Then you see another try hard faggot getting first team reps and you watch him chuck ball's into the fucking turf or throw picks and you say huh....fuck this. Pete plays baby games and I'm sure JS eyes are just as good as yours and mine. How would you like to be a guy with sure fire NFL ability and know you are blocked by some fucking retarded fag who suffers from dwarfism and has a fucking noodle arm?

    You guys do not understand how college football works. These guys are coming off of redshirt seasons. Do you understand what that means? As a QB, when you redshirt you are not going to get a lot of meaningful reps. These guys showed up on campus last Spring. They got some reps and as you would expect from true Freshman, they both sucked ass and had so much to learn. With a returning 4-year starter who was entrenched as the starter, it was already decided when they showed up that both were going to redshirt. Then comes fall camp which is about getting the returning starter and the rest of the team ready for the season. It's not about giving a lot of reps to true Freshman who are redshirting. Then the season comes and it's 3 months of splitting reps with Eason on the scout team running the other teams offense.

    At no time during a QB's redshirt season is there a real opportunity to compete for the starting job. You come in and your job is to learn the offense, learn the game of football, learn from the mistakes of the older guys, take mental reps, improve your mechanics in drills and the few practice reps you get, and get bigger/faster/stronger so that when your redshirt season is over, you are as ready as possible to COMPETE in the years to come for the starting job. That's the way it works for the vast majority of college QB's. The QB position is a marathon for 95% of guys, not a sprint.

    BOTH OF THESE FUCKING PUSSIES were already considering transferring before Spring ball and the coaches knew that. We are just finding out about it now but those in the know knew this was the case. These two idiots were thinking about transferring before they even got the opportunity to COMPETE. With the coaches knowing that they were considering transferring, of course they're gonna give more reps to Haener and try to keep him from transferring as well in which case we'd really be fucked with only two QB's on the roster.

    Both of them suck and need years of development to be capable starter at this level. This is a competitive top-15 program. They knew that going in. They both knew Eason was coming before they signed. So what the fuck? Fucking nut up pussy and compete. It takes time. Nothing is given to you and if you have one foot out the door of course the coaches are going to give reps to Haener because at least they know he'll be here in the Fall and they need to get a back up QB ready to play in case Eason goes down.

    Yankoff is gone because he sucks and he knows he sucks and he just doesn't have the confidence to stick it out and compete.

    Sirmon is gone because he has very few friends on the team, nobody likes him, and he thinks he's way better than he actually is.

    Dylan Morris is better than both of them. You can quote me on that. Fuck those losers.
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