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California just quit high speed rail debacle

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    I sent my wife a free e card

    Hey big spender!
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,181 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    Postal91 said:

    Wasn't Pelosi's husband, or one of those witches, get this billion dollar contract for the development? Hilarious that the California government felt they could build something. Wonder where all those funds go now... Or even if they really felt they'd be successful and simply pulled a huge money grab.

    Nah, no banana republic kind of stuff like that would happen in California!

    [Mainstream media also ignored or downplayed the serious irregularities associated with the processing of Caltrain’s grant application. The Obama FTA submitted it to Congress (as required) at the very last minute (2 days before Trump inauguration) when there is the usual chaos and confusion associated with a change in administrations. The Acting FTA Chief promoting the grant, Carolyn Flowers, took a job at AECOM – a Caltrain contractor – two weeks after submitting the grant to Congress]
    Anyone who followed the cost overruns associated with building the new Bay Bridge now knows that 3rd world level political corruption associated with the building of public works projects has come to America and is now well established in America.
    Fun anecdote, in my days working for multinationals there was a metric unofficially called "slush" that was calculated based on the costs associated with what it would take to spend on a project to make it happen given the "regulatory" burden. California was one of leaders in the world in "slush". It exceeded even such transparent countries such as Russia & South Africa.
    Yeah, that’s a fun anecdote. Did you share it with everyone at the tsio rose bowl tailgate? Your days with multinationals?
    Didn't see you there. Why the no show? I know @RaceBannon got a bit lost and his luxury seat started calling.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,843 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    Postal91 said:

    Wasn't Pelosi's husband, or one of those witches, get this billion dollar contract for the development? Hilarious that the California government felt they could build something. Wonder where all those funds go now... Or even if they really felt they'd be successful and simply pulled a huge money grab.

    Nah, no banana republic kind of stuff like that would happen in California!

    [Mainstream media also ignored or downplayed the serious irregularities associated with the processing of Caltrain’s grant application. The Obama FTA submitted it to Congress (as required) at the very last minute (2 days before Trump inauguration) when there is the usual chaos and confusion associated with a change in administrations. The Acting FTA Chief promoting the grant, Carolyn Flowers, took a job at AECOM – a Caltrain contractor – two weeks after submitting the grant to Congress]
    Anyone who followed the cost overruns associated with building the new Bay Bridge now knows that 3rd world level political corruption associated with the building of public works projects has come to America and is now well established in America.
    Fun anecdote, in my days working for multinationals there was a metric unofficially called "slush" that was calculated based on the costs associated with what it would take to spend on a project to make it happen given the "regulatory" burden. California was one of leaders in the world in "slush". It exceeded even such transparent countries such as Russia & South Africa.
    it's democrat run so that means more corruption than anywhere else in the world.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    I’m taking my wife out to dinner this weekend. Not tonight.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,181 Founders Club
    edited February 2019
    New quieter supersonic aircraft are also coming to private industry and civilian use. It's going to take you longer to get through LAX's government run security than it's going to take a private airline to get you from LA to New York.

    Edit:

    https://boomsupersonic.com/
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    No security needed in an Uber drone. It lands at Target, people exchange, 30 seconds later, it's off to its next stop. Unlike fixed point transportation, each individual “carpool” route is unique.

    Unlike rail, access corridors already exist, 500 feet up, then another 500, then another 500

    10 global companies have existing flying passenger drones, today.

    choo choo.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Postal91 said:

    Wasn't Pelosi's husband, or one of those witches, get this billion dollar contract for the development? Hilarious that the California government felt they could build something. Wonder where all those funds go now... Or even if they really felt they'd be successful and simply pulled a huge money grab.

    Nah, no banana republic kind of stuff like that would happen in California!

    [Mainstream media also ignored or downplayed the serious irregularities associated with the processing of Caltrain’s grant application. The Obama FTA submitted it to Congress (as required) at the very last minute (2 days before Trump inauguration) when there is the usual chaos and confusion associated with a change in administrations. The Acting FTA Chief promoting the grant, Carolyn Flowers, took a job at AECOM – a Caltrain contractor – two weeks after submitting the grant to Congress]
    Anyone who followed the cost overruns associated with building the new Bay Bridge now knows that 3rd world level political corruption associated with the building of public works projects has come to America and is now well established in America.
    Fun anecdote, in my days working for multinationals there was a metric unofficially called "slush" that was calculated based on the costs associated with what it would take to spend on a project to make it happen given the "regulatory" burden. California was one of leaders in the world in "slush". It exceeded even such transparent countries such as Russia & South Africa.
    California with the high speed train construction was getting pretty damn close to African level corruption, where all the money is just ripped off and the project never even gets built.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Postal91 said:

    Wasn't Pelosi's husband, or one of those witches, get this billion dollar contract for the development? Hilarious that the California government felt they could build something. Wonder where all those funds go now... Or even if they really felt they'd be successful and simply pulled a huge money grab.

    Nah, no banana republic kind of stuff like that would happen in California!

    [Mainstream media also ignored or downplayed the serious irregularities associated with the processing of Caltrain’s grant application. The Obama FTA submitted it to Congress (as required) at the very last minute (2 days before Trump inauguration) when there is the usual chaos and confusion associated with a change in administrations. The Acting FTA Chief promoting the grant, Carolyn Flowers, took a job at AECOM – a Caltrain contractor – two weeks after submitting the grant to Congress]
    Anyone who followed the cost overruns associated with building the new Bay Bridge now knows that 3rd world level political corruption associated with the building of public works projects has come to America and is now well established in America.
    Fun anecdote, in my days working for multinationals there was a metric unofficially called "slush" that was calculated based on the costs associated with what it would take to spend on a project to make it happen given the "regulatory" burden. California was one of leaders in the world in "slush". It exceeded even such transparent countries such as Russia & South Africa.
    Yeah, that’s a fun anecdote. Did you share it with everyone at the tsio rose bowl tailgate? Your days with multinationals?
    Why so bitter today?
    Today? The guy has one mode. Mouthy ignorant asswhole.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    Dozens of times over 30 plus years of marriage!
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,116 Standard Supporter

    I’m taking my wife out to dinner this weekend. Not tonight.

    You get the annual Valentine's blow job prepaid BEFORE taking her out to dinner?!?

    Kudos. that is some solid negotiating.

  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club

    Once upon a time alarmists like Hawking said man has how ever many years to find a new planet to live on because we are destroying earth


    Gonna be tough to fire those rockets on compost fuel

    Don't kill all the cows...herd them all up and fire on fart fuel.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club

    Heads up, Youtube as been hacked. Or maybe q13, not sure

    https://youtu.be/QnS0_4yB3Mc

    Is that a dude? Fuck me anybody can be a VP these days
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    I hear they are going to continue the train into the central valley. It's vital to the agricultural community. The same community whom they cut large amounts of water off to. Because it's vital to their business. Gee I've never seen a high speed freight train. Can't wait. No one wants to go to the fucking central valley.

    dude...everyone wants to ride the train from Modusto to Bakedfield
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited February 2019

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FpaYoF12Rnk

    First flight of Boeing’s new PAV - Passenger Air Vehicle 30 sec. vid

    Boeing’s fleet is currently a 2 seat, 4 seat, 50 seat, 100 seat vertical takeoff/landing. Can land in a Target parking lot.

    or Walmart or Safeway, Pierce College, UW-(all campuses)
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited February 2019
    and when you’re here Now but you need to be There by a deadline, all ya gotta do is



    and regardless of surface street traffic conditions, you’ll be delivered just on time, as Expected.

    Imagine being in a Van pool today with 49 others. Imagine taking 7 of those vans off the roads forever. Arriving more reliably, safer. Once dropped off, that drone continues to a new on-demand assignment perhaps taking another 7 carpool vans off the street forever. Then another, then another, Same drone.

    If only somebody with aeronautical manufacturing experience would team up with an on demand passenger logistics company and develop something like this.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter

    and when you’re here Now but you need to be There by a deadline, all ya gotta do is



    and regardless of surface street traffic conditions, you’ll be delivered just on time, as Expected.

    Imagine being in a Van pool today with 49 others. Imagine taking 7 of those vans off the roads forever. Arriving more reliably, safer. Once dropped off, that drone continues to a new on-demand assignment perhaps taking another 7 carpool vans off the street forever. Then another, then another, Same drone.

    If only somebody with aeronautical manufacturing experience would team up with an on demand passenger logistics company and develop something like this.

    This kind of technology is interesting. I’m thinking (if done well), our cities would end up looking like the Fifth Element:



    Problem is figuring out the traffic for all those drones/flying cars:

    https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/7xm794/flying-cars-air-traffic-control-nasa

  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904

    I know. It’s OK

    You mean OK!
  • uzi
    uzi Member Posts: 1,298
    Okay so a high speed train project was started in Cali in 2008 by a Republican governor, and in 2019 Democrat governor announces its not a good use of taxpayer money and plans to scale it back.

    So what the fuck are all of you alt-right wannabes buttfucking eachother about?
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    1996.

    The high speed rail act (CHSRA) was passed in California in 1996.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,843 Standard Supporter
    Trump asking for 3.5 billion in federal tax money back. And it should be sent back. According to some Kali is so rich that's a drop in the bucket.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club

    1996.

    The high speed rail act (CHSRA) was passed in California in 1996.

    But still

    Note the intelligent argument uzi put forth. It was compelling
  • uzi
    uzi Member Posts: 1,298

    1996.

    The high speed rail act (CHSRA) was passed in California in 1996.

    1996 is just when a planning authority was formed.

    2008 is when voters approved the money and the plan, under a Republican Governor.

    "In 2008, California voters approved the issuance of $9 billion in bonds for high speed rail in Proposition 1A,[34] a measure to construct the initial segment of the network."
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    formed in 1996 to develop for a 1998 ballot measure.

    Try and keep up.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited February 2019
    It only took 23 years for the opposition to be proven right.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    IMO people vote for rail hoping the other people fucking up their car commute use it

    California allows you to pay to use the car pool lane as a single. A wonderful innovation especially if the company pays for it

    For all the tree hugger green free pub Cali gets they build roads down here. The people demand it. It was one thing that surprised me when I came here. Lots and lots of freeways and more since I got here
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited February 2019
    Saying that the voters approved the money for the plan under a Republican Gov. is technically correct but very misleading. It was a fucking ballot measure. The public voted in favor of it based up on the lies that were being told to sell it and because California voters are dumb as dogshit.

    Jerry Brown, a Rat Gov. is who kept this boondoggle alive for the last eight years after it had long became obvious that it was a shit plan that was nothing more than a black-hole that sucks up public money.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,843 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Saying that the voters approved the money for the plan under a Republican Gov. is technically correct but very misleading. It was a fucking ballot measure. The public voted in favor of it based up on the lies that were being told to sell it and because California voters are dumb as dogshit.

    Jerry Brown, a Rat Gov. is who kept this boondoggle alive for the last eight years after it had long became obvious that it was a shit plan that was nothing more than a black-hole that sucks up public money.

    I think the price may have gone up............

    Oh but the dems were running it...........
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    Whatever California is doing, every other state just needs to do the opposite, and they'll be fine.