Watson won a natty, not a Superbowl dumbass. I hate pro football so, I'll give you that. I would take a mobile QB also, unless the pocket passer is in a system with an elite supporting class. A mobile QB covers alot of mistakes by OL and receivers. A pocket passer relies on read8ng defenses, adjusting on fly, hot reads, outlets, and blocking schemes.
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Did you really just make that fucking apples to apples comparison?
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
Mahomes drops dimes but his ability to run and scramble helps a lot. This isn’t even an argument. The best college QB’s in recent years have been a threat with their legs.
Who are the great college pocket passers? I’ll wait. Lawrence broke off a 60 yard TD run against Ohio State.
I didn’t say I wanted a QB that couldn’t throw. Of course throwing is better. I like guys that can buy time with their feet and pick up first downs or gain 5+ when nobody is open on first down. What are any of you even arguing? But, but... Tom Brady!
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
A shame I can only chin this once. Bravo.
Even his avatar is an old racist trope. Thankfully for him, racism is accepted here.
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
A shame I can only chin this once. Bravo.
Even his avatar is an old racist trope. Thankfully for him, racism is accepted here.
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
Wilson and Mahomes play from the pocket dumb fuck. They are in a different category form those other guys. The guys I listed are chaos QB's. They lead the league in sacks taken and rely more on their legs. That isn't how you play QB. It's nice to see you pull out the race card why you think I don't like them but given your avatar pic you are used to playing the victim. Be better you stupid cunt.
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
Wilson and Mahomes play from the pocket dumb fuck. They are in a different category form those other guys. The guys I listed are chaos QB's. They lead the league in sacks taken and rely more on their legs. That isn't how you play QB. It's nice to see you pull out the race card why you think I don't like them but given your avatar pic you are used to playing the victim. Be better you stupid cunt.
Nobody wants a QB that can’t throw. Saying you’ll take Tom Brady or Peyton Manning over Watson or Jackson as a college player was retarded. Own it.
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
Wilson and Mahomes play from the pocket dumb fuck. They are in a different category form those other guys. The guys I listed are chaos QB's. They lead the league in sacks taken and rely more on their legs. That isn't how you play QB. It's nice to see you pull out the race card why you think I don't like them but given your avatar pic you are used to playing the victim. Be better you stupid cunt.
Nobody wants a QB that can’t throw. Saying you’ll take Tom Brady or Peyton Manning over Watson or Jackson as a college player was retarded. Own it.
Own what? Why don't you go back to the other thread and convince yourself that Oregon St. had a good offense this past year.
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
Wilson and Mahomes play from the pocket dumb fuck. They are in a different category form those other guys. The guys I listed are chaos QB's. They lead the league in sacks taken and rely more on their legs. That isn't how you play QB. It's nice to see you pull out the race card why you think I don't like them but given your avatar pic you are used to playing the victim. Be better you stupid cunt.
Nobody wants a QB that can’t throw. Saying you’ll take Tom Brady or Peyton Manning over Watson or Jackson as a college player was retarded. Own it.
Own what? Why don't you go back to the other thread and convince yourself that Oregon St. had a good offense this past year.
I don’t give a fuck about Oregon State and they were a good offense against everyone but UW. Terrible defense tho. I don’t even really know who you are, but have you always been this dumb?
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
Wilson and Mahomes play from the pocket dumb fuck. They are in a different category form those other guys. The guys I listed are chaos QB's. They lead the league in sacks taken and rely more on their legs. That isn't how you play QB. It's nice to see you pull out the race card why you think I don't like them but given your avatar pic you are used to playing the victim. Be better you stupid cunt.
Nobody wants a QB that can’t throw. Saying you’ll take Tom Brady or Peyton Manning over Watson or Jackson as a college player was retarded. Own it.
Own what? Why don't you go back to the other thread and convince yourself that Oregon St. had a good offense this past year.
I don’t give a fuck about Oregon State and they were a good offense against everyone but UW. Terrible defense tho. I don’t even really know who you are, but have you always been this dumb?
You are right my bad. Oregon St. had a good offense this year. They scored 7 against Utah and 10 against Oregon. They lit it up this year. They ran the same bull shit we ran. So I am dumb for preferring QB's that throw from the pocket? Cool.
In this era of football there is almost no excuse to have a QB that cant run or at least scramble. He looks like he has that ability at least.
This. I fucking hate pocket passers. Every good QB nowadays can run. You’re fucked if they can’t at least move around and pick up a couple first downs by buying time or running it.
Agree. I will take Murray, Watson and Jackson over the Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Payton Mannings any day.
Murray, Watsun and Jackson O titles
Brady, Bread, and Manning 8 titles
Yeah, I'll take the guys with 0 all day.....lol Doog logic at its best
Watson - 1 title and another title game appearance. Argument over. This is college football dipshit. Kyler Murray was twice as good as Tom Brady was in college. Manning was good, but still. No natties and they won one the year after he left with Tee Martin.
Pocket passers are a dying breed and any coach worth a shit knows to avoid them.
This isn't true. The position will always be defined by who can throw from the pocket. That will never change. All these new flavor of the month QB's like Jackson, Watson and Murray aren't the future of the position. Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down.
"Give me the QB who plays from the neck up rather than the neck down," they can do both. Listen to Deshaun Watson's several postgame press conferences where he breaks down exactly what he was seeing on the field.
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
Wilson and Mahomes play from the pocket dumb fuck. They are in a different category form those other guys. The guys I listed are chaos QB's. They lead the league in sacks taken and rely more on their legs. That isn't how you play QB. It's nice to see you pull out the race card why you think I don't like them but given your avatar pic you are used to playing the victim. Be better you stupid cunt.
Nobody wants a QB that can’t throw. Saying you’ll take Tom Brady or Peyton Manning over Watson or Jackson as a college player was retarded. Own it.
Own what? Why don't you go back to the other thread and convince yourself that Oregon St. had a good offense this past year.
I don’t give a fuck about Oregon State and they were a good offense against everyone but UW. Terrible defense tho. I don’t even really know who you are, but have you always been this dumb?
You are right my bad. Oregon St. had a good offense this year. They scored 7 against Utah and 10 against Oregon. They lit it up this year. They ran the same bull shit we ran. So I am dumb for preferring QB's that throw from the pocket? Cool.
I think they are saying you are a racist because you prefer qbs that throw from the pocket. Let's stay on target here dammit.
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I didn’t say I wanted a QB that couldn’t throw. Of course throwing is better. I like guys that can buy time with their feet and pick up first downs or gain 5+ when nobody is open on first down. What are any of you even arguing? But, but... Tom Brady!
I'm curious why multiple times you picked Watson, Murray, and Jackson as your "flavor of the month" guys, but Mahomes, who's playing this Sunday, and Russell Wilson, who already has a title, weren't in the same category. Both guys will pick you apart from the pocket AND are electric outside of it. There was even a (false) narrative for the first 3 or 4 years of his career that Russ wasn't effective in the pocket but he still won. The point is it's not an either/or anymore. It's not 2004, and Michael Vick isn't lining up under center in the I-Formation all game long. The game done changed; these guys can do both at a high level.
Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and "Payton Manning" are your guys? Fair enough, they're all ballers. Would they all be better if they could also run? Obviously yes. That's where the game's been heading, and it's already there. My hunch is that your guys are your guys because they don't wear a couple fat, diamond studded, gold chains over a Givenchy t-shirt after games. You're telling on yourself. Be better.
Put simply, as a defensive coordinator, would you rather have to account for 5 guys or 6 guys on every single play?
If you rank them by success, it’ll be the exact inversion of which guys best fit in the mold of a traditional pocket passer. The game is evolving