Favorite Historical Places You’ve Visited
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Not for The Throbber or @YellowSnowBearsWiin said:
Gloryhole too highGrundleStiltzkin said:
YesBearsWiin said:I chiseled a gloryhole in the Berlin Wall, does that count?

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BearsWiin said:
Pics?YellowSnow said:
bedridden postpartum Grandma but Red Cross nurses fought them offBearsWiin said:I chiseled a hole in the Berlin Wall, does that count?
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Dachau was the first concentration camp, and IIRC it was operational through the 1930's so they had many years pre-Final Solution to kill gypsies, artists, Jews, gays, etc. there. Chambers were used later, when it was deemed cost-ineffective to shoot that many people. I don't recall seeing chambers at Dachau, but I remember the crematoriaApostleofGrief said:
Where did you get these numbers? Personally, I would be suspicious since the authorities disclaim the chamber at Dachau was even used. It look used, big time. Anyway, I leave the arguments to the historians.YellowSnow said:
Dachau and Mauthausen are notable for being amongst the first camps and the places where the Germans got their reads down. Something like 31,000 were killed and Dachau and 120,000 to 300,000 at Mauthausen. These figures by themselves are horrific. But the final solution really got going at Auschwitz (1,000,000 killed) and Treblinka (900,000 killed).BearsWiin said:
Mauthausen is pretty sobering, tooYellowSnow said:
The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.ApostleofGrief said:Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.
Not specifically about Dachau, but Tim Snyder's Bloodlands gives a good recounting of the Nazis' efforts to figure out industrial-scale killing on the Eastern Front. We think of gas chambers and huge concentration camps, but a couple million people were just shot and buried in mass graves dug near their villages. -
Bloodlans was a great read. Picked that up about 6 years ago.BearsWiin said:
Dachau was the first concentration camp, and IIRC it was operational through the 1930's so they had many years pre-Final Solution to kill gypsies, artists, Jews, gays, etc. there. Chambers were used later, when it was deemed cost-ineffective to shoot that many people. I don't recall seeing chambers at Dachau, but I remember the crematoriaApostleofGrief said:
Where did you get these numbers? Personally, I would be suspicious since the authorities disclaim the chamber at Dachau was even used. It look used, big time. Anyway, I leave the arguments to the historians.YellowSnow said:
Dachau and Mauthausen are notable for being amongst the first camps and the places where the Germans got their reads down. Something like 31,000 were killed and Dachau and 120,000 to 300,000 at Mauthausen. These figures by themselves are horrific. But the final solution really got going at Auschwitz (1,000,000 killed) and Treblinka (900,000 killed).BearsWiin said:
Mauthausen is pretty sobering, tooYellowSnow said:
The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.ApostleofGrief said:Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.
Not specifically about Dachau, but Tim Snyder's Bloodlands gives a good recounting of the Nazis' efforts to figure out industrial-scale killing on the Eastern Front. We think of gas chambers and huge concentration camps, but a couple million people were just shot and buried in mass graves dug near their villages. -
The definitive book on the subject.ApostleofGrief said:
Where did you get these numbers? Personally, I would be suspicious since the authorities disclaim the chamber at Dachau was even used. It look used, big time. Anyway, I leave the arguments to the historians.YellowSnow said:
Dachau and Mauthausen are notable for being amongst the first camps and the places where the Germans got their reads down. Something like 31,000 were killed and Dachau and 120,000 to 300,000 at Mauthausen. These figures by themselves are horrific. But the final solution really got going at Auschwitz (1,000,000 killed) and Treblinka (900,000 killed).BearsWiin said:
Mauthausen is pretty sobering, tooYellowSnow said:
The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.ApostleofGrief said:Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlands -
LebamDawg said:
the memorable ones:
- Arlington National Cemetery and the tomb of the Unknown Soldier changing of the guard. (Mrs. Lebam called me a wuss for crying)
- Punchbowl and USS Arizona in Hawaii
- Fort McHenry + the National Museum with the Flag
- Mt. Rushmore
- Gettysburg and I have been to numerous Civil War reenactments
- Monticello - Jefferson be my favorite
- Arlington National Cemetery and the tomb of the Unknown Soldier changing of the guard. (Mrs. Lebam called me a wuss for crying)
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I remember the part of Dachau which looked like gutters in a field, and the signs indicated that they just mowed down prisoners here. This is dark shit, man!BearsWiin said:
Dachau was the first concentration camp, and IIRC it was operational through the 1930's so they had many years pre-Final Solution to kill gypsies, artists, Jews, gays, etc. there. Chambers were used later, when it was deemed cost-ineffective to shoot that many people. I don't recall seeing chambers at Dachau, but I remember the crematoriaApostleofGrief said:
Where did you get these numbers? Personally, I would be suspicious since the authorities disclaim the chamber at Dachau was even used. It look used, big time. Anyway, I leave the arguments to the historians.YellowSnow said:
Dachau and Mauthausen are notable for being amongst the first camps and the places where the Germans got their reads down. Something like 31,000 were killed and Dachau and 120,000 to 300,000 at Mauthausen. These figures by themselves are horrific. But the final solution really got going at Auschwitz (1,000,000 killed) and Treblinka (900,000 killed).BearsWiin said:
Mauthausen is pretty sobering, tooYellowSnow said:
The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.ApostleofGrief said:Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.
Not specifically about Dachau, but Tim Snyder's Bloodlands gives a good recounting of the Nazis' efforts to figure out industrial-scale killing on the Eastern Front. We think of gas chambers and huge concentration camps, but a couple million people were just shot and buried in mass graves dug near their villages. -
My favorite is the tower of london.
That place is dope as fuck. -
I ate lunch on the outside near the Traitors Gate. Didn’t go inside for the tour.backthepack said:My favorite is the tower of london.
That place is dope as fuck. -
It’s amazingYellowSnow said:
I ate lunch on the outside near the Traitors Gate. Didn’t go inside for the tour.backthepack said:My favorite is the tower of london.
That place is dope as fuck.






