Favorite Historical Places You’ve Visited
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Not for The Throbber or @YellowSnowBearsWiin said:
Gloryhole too highGrundleStiltzkin said:
YesBearsWiin said:I chiseled a gloryhole in the Berlin Wall, does that count?
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BearsWiin said:
Pics?YellowSnow said:
bedridden postpartum Grandma but Red Cross nurses fought them offBearsWiin said:I chiseled a hole in the Berlin Wall, does that count?
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Dachau was the first concentration camp, and IIRC it was operational through the 1930's so they had many years pre-Final Solution to kill gypsies, artists, Jews, gays, etc. there. Chambers were used later, when it was deemed cost-ineffective to shoot that many people. I don't recall seeing chambers at Dachau, but I remember the crematoriaApostleofGrief said:
Where did you get these numbers? Personally, I would be suspicious since the authorities disclaim the chamber at Dachau was even used. It look used, big time. Anyway, I leave the arguments to the historians.YellowSnow said:
Dachau and Mauthausen are notable for being amongst the first camps and the places where the Germans got their reads down. Something like 31,000 were killed and Dachau and 120,000 to 300,000 at Mauthausen. These figures by themselves are horrific. But the final solution really got going at Auschwitz (1,000,000 killed) and Treblinka (900,000 killed).BearsWiin said:
Mauthausen is pretty sobering, tooYellowSnow said:
The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.ApostleofGrief said:Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.
Not specifically about Dachau, but Tim Snyder's Bloodlands gives a good recounting of the Nazis' efforts to figure out industrial-scale killing on the Eastern Front. We think of gas chambers and huge concentration camps, but a couple million people were just shot and buried in mass graves dug near their villages. -
Bloodlans was a great read. Picked that up about 6 years ago.BearsWiin said:
Dachau was the first concentration camp, and IIRC it was operational through the 1930's so they had many years pre-Final Solution to kill gypsies, artists, Jews, gays, etc. there. Chambers were used later, when it was deemed cost-ineffective to shoot that many people. I don't recall seeing chambers at Dachau, but I remember the crematoriaApostleofGrief said:
Where did you get these numbers? Personally, I would be suspicious since the authorities disclaim the chamber at Dachau was even used. It look used, big time. Anyway, I leave the arguments to the historians.YellowSnow said:
Dachau and Mauthausen are notable for being amongst the first camps and the places where the Germans got their reads down. Something like 31,000 were killed and Dachau and 120,000 to 300,000 at Mauthausen. These figures by themselves are horrific. But the final solution really got going at Auschwitz (1,000,000 killed) and Treblinka (900,000 killed).BearsWiin said:
Mauthausen is pretty sobering, tooYellowSnow said:
The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.ApostleofGrief said:Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.
Not specifically about Dachau, but Tim Snyder's Bloodlands gives a good recounting of the Nazis' efforts to figure out industrial-scale killing on the Eastern Front. We think of gas chambers and huge concentration camps, but a couple million people were just shot and buried in mass graves dug near their villages. -
The definitive book on the subject.ApostleofGrief said:
Where did you get these numbers? Personally, I would be suspicious since the authorities disclaim the chamber at Dachau was even used. It look used, big time. Anyway, I leave the arguments to the historians.YellowSnow said:
Dachau and Mauthausen are notable for being amongst the first camps and the places where the Germans got their reads down. Something like 31,000 were killed and Dachau and 120,000 to 300,000 at Mauthausen. These figures by themselves are horrific. But the final solution really got going at Auschwitz (1,000,000 killed) and Treblinka (900,000 killed).BearsWiin said:
Mauthausen is pretty sobering, tooYellowSnow said:
The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.ApostleofGrief said:Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlands -
LebamDawg said:
the memorable ones:
- Arlington National Cemetery and the tomb of the Unknown Soldier changing of the guard. (Mrs. Lebam called me a wuss for crying)
- Punchbowl and USS Arizona in Hawaii
- Fort McHenry + the National Museum with the Flag
- Mt. Rushmore
- Gettysburg and I have been to numerous Civil War reenactments
- Monticello - Jefferson be my favorite
- Arlington National Cemetery and the tomb of the Unknown Soldier changing of the guard. (Mrs. Lebam called me a wuss for crying)
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I remember the part of Dachau which looked like gutters in a field, and the signs indicated that they just mowed down prisoners here. This is dark shit, man!BearsWiin said:
Dachau was the first concentration camp, and IIRC it was operational through the 1930's so they had many years pre-Final Solution to kill gypsies, artists, Jews, gays, etc. there. Chambers were used later, when it was deemed cost-ineffective to shoot that many people. I don't recall seeing chambers at Dachau, but I remember the crematoriaApostleofGrief said:
Where did you get these numbers? Personally, I would be suspicious since the authorities disclaim the chamber at Dachau was even used. It look used, big time. Anyway, I leave the arguments to the historians.YellowSnow said:
Dachau and Mauthausen are notable for being amongst the first camps and the places where the Germans got their reads down. Something like 31,000 were killed and Dachau and 120,000 to 300,000 at Mauthausen. These figures by themselves are horrific. But the final solution really got going at Auschwitz (1,000,000 killed) and Treblinka (900,000 killed).BearsWiin said:
Mauthausen is pretty sobering, tooYellowSnow said:
The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.ApostleofGrief said:Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.
Not specifically about Dachau, but Tim Snyder's Bloodlands gives a good recounting of the Nazis' efforts to figure out industrial-scale killing on the Eastern Front. We think of gas chambers and huge concentration camps, but a couple million people were just shot and buried in mass graves dug near their villages. -
My favorite is the tower of london.
That place is dope as fuck. -
I ate lunch on the outside near the Traitors Gate. Didn’t go inside for the tour.backthepack said:My favorite is the tower of london.
That place is dope as fuck. -
It’s amazingYellowSnow said:
I ate lunch on the outside near the Traitors Gate. Didn’t go inside for the tour.backthepack said:My favorite is the tower of london.
That place is dope as fuck.
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Pyramids are the shit. Cairo is total shit. But the Pyramids are dope af.
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Most impactful for me without question is Auschwitz. Both Auschwitz 1 and Birkenau. It is really indescribable.
I've been to Antietam, Gettysburg, Bull Run, all the DC monuments including the Vietnam Wall, the Plaszow concentration camp in Krakow (which is a different type of sadness) and the last remaining piece of the wall of the Warsaw Ghetto but there is nothing that approaches the level of Auschwitz.
Nairobi National Park in Kenya was pretty impactful from the perspective of how incredible those creatures are in the wild and how we're in the process of destroying their planet and habitat.
The Great Pyramids of Giza. How the fuck did humans build those things with the technology at the time?
The Acropolis & Parthenon in Athens.
The Wieliczka Salt Mine in Krakow is amazing as well.
The Great Wall of China is pretty amazing but I wish I had more of a chance to explore it.
Tiannamen Square was interesting from the perspective of the tour "rebranding" the history there.
Krakow Wawel Castle and old square are awesome.
Similarly Plaza Mayor in Madrid, along with the Prado.
I liked the Musee du Orsay in Paris more than the Louvre, but the Louvre is still pretty special.
The Amsterdam Rijksmuseum is a great museum.
The Auckland Maritime Museum was a really cool display of the history of ocean travel and navigation.
I did the other big Paris sites when I was there, Arc, Eiffle Tower, etc, and while they're amazing they don't crack the top 5. Same with London; Buckingham palace and Big Ben are cool but not top 5.
An amazing museum and I take it for granted for being right down the street is the Udvar-Hazy center near Dulles Airport. The fucking Enola Gay is there! Plus a space shuttle, a Concorde, an SR-71 blackbird and Gemini space capsule.
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So you say you like large, hard pointy things, @Dennis_DeYoung ?Dennis_DeYoung said:Pyramids are the shit. Cairo is total shit. But the Pyramids are dope af.
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Humans didn’t build the pyramids. Aliens did. HTH.whlinder said:Most impactful for me without question is Auschwitz. Both Auschwitz 1 and Birkenau. It is really indescribable.
I've been to Antietam, Gettysburg, Bull Run, all the DC monuments including the Vietnam Wall, the Plaszow concentration camp in Krakow (which is a different type of sadness) and the last remaining piece of the wall of the Warsaw Ghetto but there is nothing that approaches the level of Auschwitz.
Nairobi National Park in Kenya was pretty impactful from the perspective of how incredible those creatures are in the wild and how we're in the process of destroying their planet and habitat.
The Great Pyramids of Giza. How the fuck did humans build those things with the technology at the time?
The Acropolis & Parthenon in Athens.
The Wieliczka Salt Mine in Krakow is amazing as well.
The Great Wall of China is pretty amazing but I wish I had more of a chance to explore it.
Tiannamen Square was interesting from the perspective of the tour "rebranding" the history there.
Krakow Wawel Castle and old square are awesome.
Similarly Plaza Mayor in Madrid, along with the Prado.
I liked the Musee du Orsay in Paris more than the Louvre, but the Louvre is still pretty special.
The Amsterdam Rijksmuseum is a great museum.
The Auckland Maritime Museum was a really cool display of the history of ocean travel and navigation.
I did the other big Paris sites when I was there, Arc, Eiffle Tower, etc, and while they're amazing they don't crack the top 5. Same with London; Buckingham palace and Big Ben are cool but not top 5.
An amazing museum and I take it for granted for being right down the street is the Udvar-Hazy center near Dulles Airport. The fucking Enola Gay is there! Plus a space shuttle, a Concorde, an SR-71 blackbird and Gemini space capsule.
Agree on Orsay being better than Louvre.
I really need to see Gettysburg soon. Really want to look down from Little Round Top to see where Chamberlain ordered the bayonet charge and saved the Republic. -
Fuck me, I forgot Appamattox and Williamsburg/Jamestown. Clearly not my favorites since they didn’t register sooner (but also recency bias) but they’re kinda important.
It’s really bad how numb I am at this point to Gettysburg, Arlington Cemetary and the Vietnam Wall. Drove past Arlington and the Wall every Sunday on the way to church for my entire youth. Drive past Gettysburg 2-5 times per year for the past 15 years to visit in-laws. I guess it’s the same way you get used to seeing Rainier in the distance in Seattle, but it’s still a sight to behold if you’re an east coaster.YellowSnow said:
Humans didn’t build the pyramids. Aliens did. HTH.whlinder said:Most impactful for me without question is Auschwitz. Both Auschwitz 1 and Birkenau. It is really indescribable.
I've been to Antietam, Gettysburg, Bull Run, all the DC monuments including the Vietnam Wall, the Plaszow concentration camp in Krakow (which is a different type of sadness) and the last remaining piece of the wall of the Warsaw Ghetto but there is nothing that approaches the level of Auschwitz.
Nairobi National Park in Kenya was pretty impactful from the perspective of how incredible those creatures are in the wild and how we're in the process of destroying their planet and habitat.
The Great Pyramids of Giza. How the fuck did humans build those things with the technology at the time?
The Acropolis & Parthenon in Athens.
The Wieliczka Salt Mine in Krakow is amazing as well.
The Great Wall of China is pretty amazing but I wish I had more of a chance to explore it.
Tiannamen Square was interesting from the perspective of the tour "rebranding" the history there.
Krakow Wawel Castle and old square are awesome.
Similarly Plaza Mayor in Madrid, along with the Prado.
I liked the Musee du Orsay in Paris more than the Louvre, but the Louvre is still pretty special.
The Amsterdam Rijksmuseum is a great museum.
The Auckland Maritime Museum was a really cool display of the history of ocean travel and navigation.
I did the other big Paris sites when I was there, Arc, Eiffle Tower, etc, and while they're amazing they don't crack the top 5. Same with London; Buckingham palace and Big Ben are cool but not top 5.
An amazing museum and I take it for granted for being right down the street is the Udvar-Hazy center near Dulles Airport. The fucking Enola Gay is there! Plus a space shuttle, a Concorde, an SR-71 blackbird and Gemini space capsule.
Agree on Orsay being better than Louvre.
I really need to see Gettysburg soon. Really want to look down from Little Round Top to see where Chamberlain ordered the bayonet charge and saved the Republic.
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Had an 10th floor apartment in a Crystal City high rise for three years where we could see the Pentagon and Arlington out the window, with the National Cathedral in the distancewhlinder said:Fuck me, I forgot Appamattox and Williamsburg/Jamestown. Clearly not my favorites since they didn’t register sooner (but also recency bias) but they’re kinda important.
It’s really bad how numb I am at this point to Gettysburg, Arlington Cemetary and the Vietnam Wall. Drove past Arlington and the Wall every Sunday on the way to church for my entire youth. Drive past Gettysburg 2-5 times per year for the past 15 years to visit in-laws. I guess it’s the same way you get used to seeing Rainier in the distance in Seattle, but it’s still a sight to behold if you’re an east coaster.YellowSnow said:
Humans didn’t build the pyramids. Aliens did. HTH.whlinder said:Most impactful for me without question is Auschwitz. Both Auschwitz 1 and Birkenau. It is really indescribable.
I've been to Antietam, Gettysburg, Bull Run, all the DC monuments including the Vietnam Wall, the Plaszow concentration camp in Krakow (which is a different type of sadness) and the last remaining piece of the wall of the Warsaw Ghetto but there is nothing that approaches the level of Auschwitz.
Nairobi National Park in Kenya was pretty impactful from the perspective of how incredible those creatures are in the wild and how we're in the process of destroying their planet and habitat.
The Great Pyramids of Giza. How the fuck did humans build those things with the technology at the time?
The Acropolis & Parthenon in Athens.
The Wieliczka Salt Mine in Krakow is amazing as well.
The Great Wall of China is pretty amazing but I wish I had more of a chance to explore it.
Tiannamen Square was interesting from the perspective of the tour "rebranding" the history there.
Krakow Wawel Castle and old square are awesome.
Similarly Plaza Mayor in Madrid, along with the Prado.
I liked the Musee du Orsay in Paris more than the Louvre, but the Louvre is still pretty special.
The Amsterdam Rijksmuseum is a great museum.
The Auckland Maritime Museum was a really cool display of the history of ocean travel and navigation.
I did the other big Paris sites when I was there, Arc, Eiffle Tower, etc, and while they're amazing they don't crack the top 5. Same with London; Buckingham palace and Big Ben are cool but not top 5.
An amazing museum and I take it for granted for being right down the street is the Udvar-Hazy center near Dulles Airport. The fucking Enola Gay is there! Plus a space shuttle, a Concorde, an SR-71 blackbird and Gemini space capsule.
Agree on Orsay being better than Louvre.
I really need to see Gettysburg soon. Really want to look down from Little Round Top to see where Chamberlain ordered the bayonet charge and saved the Republic. -
So true story ...El_K said:I have had my photo taken behind the grassy knoll at Dealey Plaza in Dallas and done the book depository tour
I have been to the Alamo as well. It is about the size of a Taco Bell. I asked if I could see the basement as well
I’ma big JFK assassination guy and too much stuff doesn’t add up to me but whatever ...
I had an internship in downtown Dallas and would always drive by the Book Depository and the big X in the middle of the road. Everything about it screamed that it looked familiar to me but I couldn’t place it ...
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I actually forgot a big one. Not so much a historical landmark - but a historical must-see.
The World War II Museum in New Orleans is fucking incredible. We were there for about 5 hours and still didn't see everything.
Truly amazing place. In depth to the Nth degree. -
Once upon a time, @iDawg talked about riding his motorcycle up the 101 to SFRaceBannon said:If you drive through Yosemite to Sequoia you go over a 10000 foot pass
395 in California is a beautiful drive
95 in Oregon
The 101 from Crescent City to San Francisco -
When I went to France, we were in Arles. I went for a walk by myself through the outskirts of town. Went to an abandoned, tiny church. Found animals bones near where the alter would be. Then I walked into a clearing and literally strolled right through the middle of a gypsy camp. They were all completely silent and looking at me like WTF? I think I was wearing a Washington Huskies shirt if I remember correctly.*
Went to lots of historical places on that trip. Place de la Concorde, Les Invalides, Davinci's home in Amboise, Topless beaches in Nice, Annecy, Chartres. Coolest thing was an underground jazz club called Caveau de la Hachette (if I remember right). During the German occupation jazz had been outlawed. Parisians would gather in that underground spot and listen to it.
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I've been to the Original Hooters in Orlando
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Bastogne. Stood out in a field next to a concrete pillbox, got baked, and thought about Panzers and Sherman tanks facing off.
Also Spa Francorchamps Belgium, home of one of the greatest race tracks of all tim. Stood on the track at Eau Rouge after watching Micheal Schumacher burn up the track.
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this reminds me, i slept under the world's largest coke sign...89ute said:
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I’ve crashed at a condo next to the Coke sign in the Cross. IFL Sydney.BennyBeaver said:
this reminds me, i slept under the world's largest coke sign...89ute said:
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#metooYellowSnow said:
I’ve crashed at a condo next to the Coke sign in the Cross. IFL Sydney.BennyBeaver said:
this reminds me, i slept under the world's largest coke sign...89ute said:
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The Churchill war rooms are amazing.
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Haven't seen it mentioned yet, but the Colosseum was pretty fucking cool. We were one of the last to get in before it closed for the night, and it was rainy, so it wasn't too crowded. Was able to chill in a corner and soak everything in, including the ruins just outside.
Rome is dirty and you feel like you are going to get stabbed, but God there is a lot of cool shit there. -
BennyBeaver said:
#metooYellowSnow said:
I’ve crashed at a condo next to the Coke sign in the Cross. IFL Sydney.BennyBeaver said:
this reminds me, i slept under the world's largest coke sign...89ute said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola_billboard
You guys are fags.
There's more in Australia than coke signs.
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Came to also say Gettysburg. The number of monuments is astounding and that more Americans died there in 3 days than the entirety of Vietnam. Stumbled on Hamilton's grave in NYC before the Rutgers game. Grants tomb as well. NYC loves Grant, with stuff all over Brooklyn and Manhattan dedicated to the guy.
Most important location is I visited the site for the filming of the gang conclave from the movie The Warriors.
