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Favorite Historical Places You’ve Visited

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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,438 Founders Club

    My wife and I did London and Paris in 1989. We're driving by Buckingham Palace as I am asking "Where is Buckingham Palace?"

    That's it? That's pretty much London in a nutshell. Paris was REAL man.

    Both a GREAT cities in their own way. I think got more emotional in London, however, because this is the mother-ship. I'm 100% Victoria Country Club WASP you know.

    I did see this outside of Paris back in 1994 which was phenomenal to check out...


  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,438 Founders Club

    The Plains of Abraham

    Didn't you meet a pretty French Canuck when you were in Montreal?
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    edited January 2019
    Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,438 Founders Club

    Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.

    The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904

    Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.

    The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.
    When I went there, a sign claimed that the gas chamber wasn't used. Riiiiiiiight... I think it is hard to put even ball park figures on what went on, other than to say, a lot.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,034

    Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.

    The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.
    Mauthausen is pretty sobering, too
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,962
    BearsWiin said:

    Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.

    The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.
    Mauthausen is pretty sobering, too
    count me out then
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    LebamDawg said:

    the memorable ones:

    • Arlington National Cemetery and the tomb of the Unknown Soldier changing of the guard. (Mrs. Lebam called me a wuss for crying)
    • Punchbowl and USS Arizona in Hawaii
    • Fort McHenry + the National Museum with the Flag
    • Mt. Rushmore
    • Gettysburg and I have been to numerous Civil War sites
    • Monticello - Jefferson be my favorite
    Rushmore is pretty cool. Been there and Crazy Horse.

    #MeToo. I thought Devil's Tower was more impressive than Rushmore.
    We couldn't swing Devil's Tower on either Black Hills trip so I've only seen it from a distance off I90. Definitely a place I'd like to visit. Similar experience with Capulin Volcano NM (though it was the highway not the interstate).

    Have been to Sunset Crater and Wupatki NMs, both were pretty cool, especially Sunset.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,997 Founders Club
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter

    *the 90


    What have they done to this boy from Olympia
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,438 Founders Club

    *the 90


    The 215 is mor your speed.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,034
    I chiseled a hole in the Berlin Wall, does that count?
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    BearsWiin said:

    I chiseled a gloryhole in the Berlin Wall, does that count?

    Yes
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,438 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.

    The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.
    Mauthausen is pretty sobering, too
    Dachau and Mauthausen are notable for being amongst the first camps and the places where the Germans got their reads down. Something like 31,000 were killed and Dachau and 120,000 to 300,000 at Mauthausen. These figures by themselves are horrific. But the final solution really got going at Auschwitz (1,000,000 killed) and Treblinka (900,000 killed).
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,438 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    I chiseled a hole in the Berlin Wall, does that count?

    If Herr Gandpa BearsWinn had fought better there would be no wall.
    Grandpa wanted no part of the fighting. Got a discharge from the Wehrmacht after his stint in 1940 in occupied France for bleeding ulcers, then neighbor doctor in Vienna kept giving him medication to make him sick whenever he had to go back in for testing to see if he was fit for duty again. Since he was a 35-yo male in occupied Vienna in 1945, still amazed that he wasn't lined up against a wall and shot by the Sovs. Sov soldiers tried to rape bedridden postpartum Grandma but Red Cross nurses fought them off

    Great Grandpa was the fighter. Had been an officer in Austro-Hungarian Army pre-WWI, discharged in 1913, brought back at the beginning of the war and put in charge of some sort of elite team, if I read his file correctly (it's faded and in gothic script). Fought in Bohemia and Carpathia against the Russians, then transferred to Italian front in 1917 after 9 months in hospital with typhus. Fourteen combat medals of valor in all, one of which was pinned to his breast by Emperor Karl I during an audience in 1918. Invading Sov soldiers looted the medals in 1945. Family petitioned the govt. in the 1980's to have them re-issued to the family, and for several years four of them hung on my living room wall until I gave them to his oldest surviving daughter (the aunt who was born just as the Sovs marched into Vienna in 1945).
    Amazing stuff here. I understand correctly, Grandpa Yella (Capt. US Army Infantry), ended his time in the European theater in Austria in 1945.
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904

    BearsWiin said:

    Standing inside the gas chamber at Dachau on a freezing day. You don't understand humanity until you do this. Not good... in order to really understand life, though, you have to do this! I'm not anti-semitic. It is just that it's the only way to get the man-inhumanity-to-man issue.

    The mind boggling thing is that Dachau paled in comparison to the other German death factories further to the East.
    Mauthausen is pretty sobering, too
    Dachau and Mauthausen are notable for being amongst the first camps and the places where the Germans got their reads down. Something like 31,000 were killed and Dachau and 120,000 to 300,000 at Mauthausen. These figures by themselves are horrific. But the final solution really got going at Auschwitz (1,000,000 killed) and Treblinka (900,000 killed).
    Where did you get these numbers? Personally, I would be suspicious since the authorities disclaim the chamber at Dachau was even used. It look used, big time. Anyway, I leave the arguments to the historians.
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