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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    sure.

    and, “unless drastic measures to reduce greenhouse gases are taken within the next 10 years, the world will reach a point of no return." In Gore's own words, he claimed we were in "a true planetary emergency."
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited January 2019
    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club

    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    *swoooon*

    This is why I've been a Damone-minion (if he wants it or not) for over 15 years.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited January 2019
    We should require vaccines from visitors first.

    We should secure our borders from the Non-vaccinated
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    New US military branch perhaps?

    VaxxForce: fly strike teams into high risk pockets around the World and Vaxx the Shit out of entire Villages. Save the world! Saves us.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781


    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    The only reason people have the luxury of not getting vaccinated and having it be a low risk proposition in this country is because the vaccines did their jerb in the first place. Back when when people were scared of disease there were no nutty anti vaxers
    Yeah? And?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781


    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    The only reason people have the luxury of not getting vaccinated and having it be a low risk proposition in this country is because the vaccines did their jerb in the first place. Back when when people were scared of disease there were no nutty anti vaxers
    Yeah? And?
    Point being, anit vaxers are silly, hypocrite and ripping on them ain’t virtue signaling. Putting a BLM in your front yard is virtue signaling. Buying a Prius is virtue signaling.
    Yep, they are all those things. Ripping on them is virtue signally because people who do it try to appear morally superior, yet the actual consequences are a blip when you are comparing to what actually kills kids. So the truth is they care more about how they appear than being concerned for, or actually doing something that would result in less child death.
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    I am honestly shocked you are this dumb. Don't vaccinate your offspring.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    I am honestly shocked you are this dumb. Don't vaccinate your offspring.
    I wouldn’t even consider not vaccinating. But great argument.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited January 2019


    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    The only reason people have the luxury of not getting vaccinated and having it be a low risk proposition in this country is because the vaccines did their jerb in the first place. Back when when people were scared of disease there were no nutty anti vaxers
    Yeah? And?
    Point being, anit vaxers are silly, hypocrite and ripping on them ain’t virtue signaling. Putting a BLM in your front yard is virtue signaling. Buying a Prius is virtue signaling.
    Yep, they are all those things. Ripping on them is virtue signally because people who do it try to appear morally superior, yet the actual consequences are a blip when you are comparing to what actually kills kids. So the truth is they care more about how they appear than being concerned for, or actually doing something that would result in less child death.
    But we can agree @MikeDamone that If a large percentage of the populace heeded the advice of the anti vaxers, infectious disease would make a come back. It’s not virtue signaling to mock ignorant, dumb shits.

    Let me axe you this as the indoor plumbing superiority guy of the bored: would it be virtue signaling to mock some dumbass who wanted to only shit in an outhouse he built near the town’s water supply? Indoor plumbing and the modern sewer system got rid of cholera and typhus, just as vaccines got rid of polio, small pox, TB, measles, whooping cough, etc.
    They won’t and don’t heed that advice though. Reductio ad absurdum is your logical fallacy. With a touch of red herring.

    Do you have an argument for jailing and potentially killing people who don’t vaccinate themselves or kids or not?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    I never really thought Rand was on target. I’m more of a Locke, Hobbs, and Rothbard Guy.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186


    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    The only reason people have the luxury of not getting vaccinated and having it be a low risk proposition in this country is because the vaccines did their jerb in the first place. Back when when people were scared of disease there were no nutty anti vaxers
    Yeah? And?
    Point being, anit vaxers are silly, hypocrite and ripping on them ain’t virtue signaling. Putting a BLM in your front yard is virtue signaling. Buying a Prius is virtue signaling.
    Yep, they are all those things. Ripping on them is virtue signally because people who do it try to appear morally superior, yet the actual consequences are a blip when you are comparing to what actually kills kids. So the truth is they care more about how they appear than being concerned for, or actually doing something that would result in less child death.
    But we can agree @MikeDamone that If a large percentage of the populace heeded the advice of the anti vaxers, infectious disease would make a come back. It’s not virtue signaling to mock ignorant, dumb shits.

    Let me axe you this as the indoor plumbing superiority guy of the bored: would it be virtue signaling to mock some dumbass who wanted to only shit in an outhouse he built near the town’s water supply? Indoor plumbing and the modern sewer system got rid of cholera and typhus, just as vaccines got rid of polio, small pox, TB, measles, whooping cough, etc.
    They won’t and don’t heed that advice though. Reductio ad absurdum is your logical fallacy. With a touch of red herring.

    Do you have an argument for jailing and potentially killing people who don’t vaccinate themselves or kids or not?
    Whoaa, hold the phone there Damone. I haven’t been taking Latin classes with @creepycoug and wouldn’t even begin to know what that $20 word means.

    I know they won’t and don’t heed that adivice and I’m not advocating the state force them to do vaccinations by threat of jail time. But they should be mocked for the fools they are. And I’m fine with my kids day care telling them to LEAVE.
    I’d like to mock you for sensible your kids to day care. That alright?
    I’m the last person to here to mock typos and what not but can you re type this? I’m not following.
    Sensible = sending
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter


    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    The only reason people have the luxury of not getting vaccinated and having it be a low risk proposition in this country is because the vaccines did their jerb in the first place. Back when when people were scared of disease there were no nutty anti vaxers
    Yeah? And?
    Point being, anit vaxers are silly, hypocrite and ripping on them ain’t virtue signaling. Putting a BLM in your front yard is virtue signaling. Buying a Prius is virtue signaling.
    Yep, they are all those things. Ripping on them is virtue signally because people who do it try to appear morally superior, yet the actual consequences are a blip when you are comparing to what actually kills kids. So the truth is they care more about how they appear than being concerned for, or actually doing something that would result in less child death.
    But we can agree @MikeDamone that If a large percentage of the populace heeded the advice of the anti vaxers, infectious disease would make a come back. It’s not virtue signaling to mock ignorant, dumb shits.

    Let me axe you this as the indoor plumbing superiority guy of the bored: would it be virtue signaling to mock some dumbass who wanted to only shit in an outhouse he built near the town’s water supply? Indoor plumbing and the modern sewer system got rid of cholera and typhus, just as vaccines got rid of polio, small pox, TB, measles, whooping cough, etc.
    They won’t and don’t heed that advice though. Reductio ad absurdum is your logical fallacy. With a touch of red herring.

    Do you have an argument for jailing and potentially killing people who don’t vaccinate themselves or kids or not?
    Whoaa, hold the phone there Damone. I haven’t been taking Latin classes with @creepycoug and wouldn’t even begin to know what that $20 word means.

    I know they won’t and don’t heed that adivice and I’m not advocating the state force them to do vaccinations by threat of jail time. But they should be mocked for the fools they are. And I’m fine with my kids day care telling them to LEAVE.
    I’d like to mock you for sensible your kids to day care. That alright?
    I’m the last person to here to mock typos and what not but can you re type this? I’m not following.
    Sensible = sending
    Much ablooged
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,461 Founders Club


    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    The only reason people have the luxury of not getting vaccinated and having it be a low risk proposition in this country is because the vaccines did their jerb in the first place. Back when when people were scared of disease there were no nutty anti vaxers
    Yeah? And?
    Point being, anit vaxers are silly, hypocrite and ripping on them ain’t virtue signaling. Putting a BLM in your front yard is virtue signaling. Buying a Prius is virtue signaling.
    Yep, they are all those things. Ripping on them is virtue signally because people who do it try to appear morally superior, yet the actual consequences are a blip when you are comparing to what actually kills kids. So the truth is they care more about how they appear than being concerned for, or actually doing something that would result in less child death.
    But we can agree @MikeDamone that If a large percentage of the populace heeded the advice of the anti vaxers, infectious disease would make a come back. It’s not virtue signaling to mock ignorant, dumb shits.

    Let me axe you this as the indoor plumbing superiority guy of the bored: would it be virtue signaling to mock some dumbass who wanted to only shit in an outhouse he built near the town’s water supply? Indoor plumbing and the modern sewer system got rid of cholera and typhus, just as vaccines got rid of polio, small pox, TB, measles, whooping cough, etc.
    They won’t and don’t heed that advice though. Reductio ad absurdum is your logical fallacy. With a touch of red herring.

    Do you have an argument for jailing and potentially killing people who don’t vaccinate themselves or kids or not?
    Whoaa, hold the phone there Damone. I haven’t been taking Latin classes with @creepycoug and wouldn’t even begin to know what that $20 word means.

    I know they won’t and don’t heed that adivice and I’m not advocating the state force them to do vaccinations by threat of jail time. But they should be mocked for the fools they are. And I’m fine with my kids day care telling them to LEAVE.
    Well, that’s all we are talking about. There was a thread yesterday that said the parents should be in jail. Mock away if it makes you feel better. People should be vaccinated, their kids should be vaccinated. Vaccines work. The state should not force people to do it. The state does not own peoples bodies. A daycare, public or private has the right to require all kids to be vaccinated. If someone who refuses vaccines is free to find daycare that don’t require them.
    Fucking this. Above all else.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072


    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    The only reason people have the luxury of not getting vaccinated and having it be a low risk proposition in this country is because the vaccines did their jerb in the first place. Back when when people were scared of disease there were no nutty anti vaxers
    Yeah? And?
    Point being, anit vaxers are silly, hypocrite and ripping on them ain’t virtue signaling. Putting a BLM in your front yard is virtue signaling. Buying a Prius is virtue signaling.
    Yep, they are all those things. Ripping on them is virtue signally because people who do it try to appear morally superior, yet the actual consequences are a blip when you are comparing to what actually kills kids. So the truth is they care more about how they appear than being concerned for, or actually doing something that would result in less child death.
    But we can agree @MikeDamone that If a large percentage of the populace heeded the advice of the anti vaxers, infectious disease would make a come back. It’s not virtue signaling to mock ignorant, dumb shits.

    Let me axe you this as the indoor plumbing superiority guy of the bored: would it be virtue signaling to mock some dumbass who wanted to only shit in an outhouse he built near the town’s water supply? Indoor plumbing and the modern sewer system got rid of cholera and typhus, just as vaccines got rid of polio, small pox, TB, measles, whooping cough, etc.
    They won’t and don’t heed that advice though. Reductio ad absurdum is your logical fallacy. With a touch of red herring.

    Do you have an argument for jailing and potentially killing people who don’t vaccinate themselves or kids or not?
    Whoaa, hold the phone there Damone. I haven’t been taking Latin classes with @creepycoug and wouldn’t even begin to know what that $20 word means.

    I know they won’t and don’t heed that adivice and I’m not advocating the state force them to do vaccinations by threat of jail time. But they should be mocked for the fools they are. And I’m fine with my kids day care telling them to LEAVE.
    I’d like to mock you for sending your kids to day care. That alright?
    Bruh, you don’t live in Seattle as I recall. It’s expensive as fuck here and usually both parents gotta bring home the bacon. I married a good earner but no @BearsWiin man of leisure lifestyle for me. Sad, I know.
    We put all of our kids into preschool between the ages of two and three so they'd have experience being in social situations before they got to kindergarten.

    People who don't vaccinate put others at risk, people who are very young or old or for some medical reason can't have vaccinations (immune system issues, chemo, etc.). I have no problem with daycares and schools being allowed to discriminate against those who willingly make themselves or their children a public health risk.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    People should do what their leaders tell them to do

    Better idea: join HCH, learn from informed, reasonable, opposing viewpoints, and make up your own mind.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046


    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    The only reason people have the luxury of not getting vaccinated and having it be a low risk proposition in this country is because the vaccines did their jerb in the first place. Back when when people were scared of disease there were no nutty anti vaxers
    Yeah? And?
    Point being, anit vaxers are silly, hypocrite and ripping on them ain’t virtue signaling. Putting a BLM in your front yard is virtue signaling. Buying a Prius is virtue signaling.
    Yep, they are all those things. Ripping on them is virtue signally because people who do it try to appear morally superior, yet the actual consequences are a blip when you are comparing to what actually kills kids. So the truth is they care more about how they appear than being concerned for, or actually doing something that would result in less child death.
    Eh, true for many. But there are people who know what they're talking about who aren't virtue signaling; they're vaccine signaling. And the reason it's a blip is probably because anti-vaccine is a relatively new fad amongst the tin-foil hat crowd. Let's check back in after a few years if it really become hip to not listen to your western-educated MD and to use essential oils instead.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    I never really thought Rand was on target. I’m more of a Locke, Hobbs, and Rothbard Guy.
    Rand was a duplicitous whore who didn't see the irony in her decision to beg her friends for money later in life.

    And she was ugly as fucking sin, so there's that.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046


    I’m not an anti vaxxer, I just don’t trust smug assholes like you who think they know what’s best for me. Fuck off. And why don’t you pricks have the same argument and self righteous indignation about flu shots? Flu kills people that number in the 1000’s

    It’s awesome how they use world wide stats, not just the US. 349 cases of the measles last year. How many deaths? 1? Get a vaccine and move the fuck on, if not, you might get sick...but probably not. JFC this isn’t even about disease, its’ about people like APAG who love to virtue signal their morality. Go read about child deaths in swimming pools. Sure would make more sense to virtue signal about something that actually kills kids in the US.

    The only reason people have the luxury of not getting vaccinated and having it be a low risk proposition in this country is because the vaccines did their jerb in the first place. Back when when people were scared of disease there were no nutty anti vaxers
    Yeah? And?
    Point being, anit vaxers are silly, hypocrite and ripping on them ain’t virtue signaling. Putting a BLM in your front yard is virtue signaling. Buying a Prius is virtue signaling.
    Yep, they are all those things. Ripping on them is virtue signally because people who do it try to appear morally superior, yet the actual consequences are a blip when you are comparing to what actually kills kids. So the truth is they care more about how they appear than being concerned for, or actually doing something that would result in less child death.
    But we can agree @MikeDamone that If a large percentage of the populace heeded the advice of the anti vaxers, infectious disease would make a come back. It’s not virtue signaling to mock ignorant, dumb shits.

    Let me axe you this as the indoor plumbing superiority guy of the bored: would it be virtue signaling to mock some dumbass who wanted to only shit in an outhouse he built near the town’s water supply? Indoor plumbing and the modern sewer system got rid of cholera and typhus, just as vaccines got rid of polio, small pox, TB, measles, whooping cough, etc.
    They won’t and don’t heed that advice though. Reductio ad absurdum is your logical fallacy. With a touch of red herring.

    Do you have an argument for jailing and potentially killing people who don’t vaccinate themselves or kids or not?
    Whoaa, hold the phone there Damone. I haven’t been taking Latin classes with @creepycoug and wouldn’t even begin to know what that $20 word means.

    I know they won’t and don’t heed that adivice and I’m not advocating the state force them to do vaccinations by threat of jail time. But they should be mocked for the fools they are. And I’m fine with my kids day care telling them to LEAVE.
    Well, that’s all we are talking about. There was a thread yesterday that said the parents should be in jail. Mock away if it makes you feel better. People should be vaccinated, their kids should be vaccinated. Vaccines work. The state should not force people to do it. The state does not own peoples bodies. A daycare, public or private has the right to require all kids to be vaccinated. If someone who refuses vaccines is free to find daycare that don’t require them.

    That's right. I do think we should double down on the mockery though. We're good at that here at HCH. Those people should be ostracized for the lepers they will soon become.