also we need to be more development minded and build more housing, preferably mixed use housing this applies to everywhere, from everett to olympia. we should start looking more like china, canada skyscraper wise... we look like a small african nation in most of the country
Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?
Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?
Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.
Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.
You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.
This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.
Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!
I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?
With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
Ok. Just hang yourself.
Hey Coug, since you're obviously a mind reader what am I think right now?
You're wondering whether it's time to pull your head out of your ass so as to more easily hang yourself.
Amirite?
Buzzzt wrong, I was thinking you're a mouthy Kunt who couldn't back up a fucking word you said regarding what I think and believe.
I'm actually in favor of abolishing all welfare programs and think that people would be amazed at the jobs Americans would be willing to do if their motivation was to eat.
I don't favor paying people $55K a year + benies to pick fruit unless that is what the market dictates in order to get the job done but I suspect technology would resolve that issue long before wages reached that level. Saying I'm quite about the bigger problems of the welfare state is a claim made by someone who's head is planted firmly up their ass who knows absolutely nothing about what my politics and positions on the issues actually are.
I don't assume that immigration is a zero/sum for domestic workers. Again that's another claim you pulled squarely out of your ass. But there is no denying that illegal immigration depresses wages in some industries.
What I oppose is providing businesses with cheap illegal immigrant labor that we as taxpayer then have to subsidize in the form of increased costs for social services and decreasing quality of life issues such as having to wait 4 hours in an ER to get stitches in my kid's leg because the place is full of illegals who are using it as their primary care provider.
When have you ever waited in an ER full of illegals. For real man. That's some bullshit.
VERY common in CA, AZ,NM etc.
For poor white trash. Yes, it is. My contemporaries don't share your experience.
Full of shit. Seen it many many times even in the non pour area. We're talking million plus dollar homes and still an ER packed with illegals. They do travel. Thought that would be obvious.
Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?
Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?
Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.
Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.
You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.
This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.
Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!
I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?
With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
Ok. Just hang yourself.
Hey Coug, since you're obviously a mind reader what am I think right now?
You're wondering whether it's time to pull your head out of your ass so as to more easily hang yourself.
Amirite?
Buzzzt wrong, I was thinking you're a mouthy Kunt who couldn't back up a fucking word you said regarding what I think and believe.
I'm actually in favor of abolishing all welfare programs and think that people would be amazed at the jobs Americans would be willing to do if their motivation was to eat.
I don't favor paying people $55K a year + benies to pick fruit unless that is what the market dictates in order to get the job done but I suspect technology would resolve that issue long before wages reached that level. Saying I'm quite about the bigger problems of the welfare state is a claim made by someone who's head is planted firmly up their ass who knows absolutely nothing about what my politics and positions on the issues actually are.
I don't assume that immigration is a zero/sum for domestic workers. Again that's another claim you pulled squarely out of your ass. But there is no denying that illegal immigration depresses wages in some industries.
What I oppose is providing businesses with cheap illegal immigrant labor that we as taxpayer then have to subsidize in the form of increased costs for social services and decreasing quality of life issues such as having to wait 4 hours in an ER to get stitches in my kid's leg because the place is full of illegals who are using it as their primary care provider.
When have you ever waited in an ER full of illegals. For real man. That's some bullshit.
VERY common in CA, AZ,NM etc.
For poor white trash. Yes, it is. My contemporaries don't share your experience.
Full of shit. Seen it many many times even in the non pour area. We're talking million plus dollar homes and still an ER packed with illegals. They do travel. Thought that would be obvious.
Sure.
Why are you in the ER so often? We know as sure as shit it's not because you're a doc. You a fucking nurse or something?
Ok, lets talk about why two of the claims you made that you said were "facts" were actually pure bullshit. Why did you then lie and claim we were both wrong when only you were wrong and why did you lie and claim my numbers included student and tourist temporary visas when the numbers I cited clearly stated they were for permanent resident immigrants?
You sound like my wife when she's flowing and ranting like a lunatic.
You're right honey. You're always right.
Hey what am I thinking right now mind-reader? Lets give it another shot.
Asked and answered. You're stupid, you know it, and it's time to hang yourself.
Are you in the habit of asking the same question twice? Were you the kind of guy who needed more time on tests?
I don't just think one thing Coug. I asked you earlier what I'm thinking. What am I thinking now? You're the one who set yourself up as a mind reader, I'm just trying to get you to take that Kunt act on the road.
Asked and answered. Is your face red? Are you hitting the keyboard a little harder than usual?
If you're not ready, I can go long tim. No problem.
Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?
Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?
Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.
Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.
You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.
This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.
Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!
I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?
With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
Ok. Just hang yourself.
Hey Coug, since you're obviously a mind reader what am I think right now?
You're wondering whether it's time to pull your head out of your ass so as to more easily hang yourself.
Amirite?
Buzzzt wrong, I was thinking you're a mouthy Kunt who couldn't back up a fucking word you said regarding what I think and believe.
I'm actually in favor of abolishing all welfare programs and think that people would be amazed at the jobs Americans would be willing to do if their motivation was to eat.
I don't favor paying people $55K a year + benies to pick fruit unless that is what the market dictates in order to get the job done but I suspect technology would resolve that issue long before wages reached that level. Saying I'm quite about the bigger problems of the welfare state is a claim made by someone who's head is planted firmly up their ass who knows absolutely nothing about what my politics and positions on the issues actually are.
I don't assume that immigration is a zero/sum for domestic workers. Again that's another claim you pulled squarely out of your ass. But there is no denying that illegal immigration depresses wages in some industries.
What I oppose is providing businesses with cheap illegal immigrant labor that we as taxpayer then have to subsidize in the form of increased costs for social services and decreasing quality of life issues such as having to wait 4 hours in an ER to get stitches in my kid's leg because the place is full of illegals who are using it as their primary care provider.
When have you ever waited in an ER full of illegals. For real man. That's some bullshit.
VERY common in CA, AZ,NM etc.
For poor white trash. Yes, it is. My contemporaries don't share your experience.
Full of shit. Seen it many many times even in the non pour area. We're talking million plus dollar homes and still an ER packed with illegals. They do travel. Thought that would be obvious.
Sure.
Why are you in the ER so often? We know as sure as shit it's not because you're a doc. You a fucking nurse or something?
No. Work took me there quite often.
How many times have you been to an ER in a state with large numbers of illegals?
Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?
Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?
Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.
Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.
You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.
This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.
Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!
I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?
With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
Ok. Just hang yourself.
Hey Coug, since you're obviously a mind reader what am I think right now?
You're wondering whether it's time to pull your head out of your ass so as to more easily hang yourself.
Amirite?
Buzzzt wrong, I was thinking you're a mouthy Kunt who couldn't back up a fucking word you said regarding what I think and believe.
I'm actually in favor of abolishing all welfare programs and think that people would be amazed at the jobs Americans would be willing to do if their motivation was to eat.
I don't favor paying people $55K a year + benies to pick fruit unless that is what the market dictates in order to get the job done but I suspect technology would resolve that issue long before wages reached that level. Saying I'm quite about the bigger problems of the welfare state is a claim made by someone who's head is planted firmly up their ass who knows absolutely nothing about what my politics and positions on the issues actually are.
I don't assume that immigration is a zero/sum for domestic workers. Again that's another claim you pulled squarely out of your ass. But there is no denying that illegal immigration depresses wages in some industries.
What I oppose is providing businesses with cheap illegal immigrant labor that we as taxpayer then have to subsidize in the form of increased costs for social services and decreasing quality of life issues such as having to wait 4 hours in an ER to get stitches in my kid's leg because the place is full of illegals who are using it as their primary care provider.
When have you ever waited in an ER full of illegals. For real man. That's some bullshit.
VERY common in CA, AZ,NM etc.
For poor white trash. Yes, it is. My contemporaries don't share your experience.
Full of shit. Seen it many many times even in the non pour area. We're talking million plus dollar homes and still an ER packed with illegals. They do travel. Thought that would be obvious.
Sure.
Why are you in the ER so often? We know as sure as shit it's not because you're a doc. You a fucking nurse or something?
No. Work took me there quite often.
How many times have you been to an ER in a state with large numbers of illegals?
So, IOW, poor af. As I suspected.
Um, not many. I try and stay out of the ER. I'm funny that way.
We prefer to schedule our medical appointments with practitioners and not use the ER as our primary health care. I understand you do what you have to do.
Amazing how a few conservatives here are in the ER frequently and know the citizenship status of random people in the wait room. And no one else does. Almost like people are full of shit.
Ok, lets talk about why two of the claims you made that you said were "facts" were actually pure bullshit. Why did you then lie and claim we were both wrong when only you were wrong and why did you lie and claim my numbers included student and tourist temporary visas when the numbers I cited clearly stated they were for permanent resident immigrants?
You sound like my wife when she's flowing and ranting like a lunatic.
You're right honey. You're always right.
Hey what am I thinking right now mind-reader? Lets give it another shot.
Asked and answered. You're stupid, you know it, and it's time to hang yourself.
Are you in the habit of asking the same question twice? Were you the kind of guy who needed more time on tests?
I don't just think one thing Coug. I asked you earlier what I'm thinking. What am I thinking now? You're the one who set yourself up as a mind reader, I'm just trying to get you to take that Kunt act on the road.
Asked and answered. Is your face red? Are you hitting the keyboard a little harder than usual?
If you're not ready, I can go long tim. No problem.
Amazing how a few conservatives here are in the ER frequently and know the citizenship status of random people in the wait room. And no one else does. Almost like people are full of shit.
You live in Spokane. You have to search far and wide to find a Hispanic there.
Amazing how a few conservatives here are in the ER frequently and know the citizenship status of random people in the wait room. And no one else does. Almost like people are full of shit.
You live in Spokane. You have to search far and wide to find a Hispanic there.
Amazing how a few conservatives here are in the ER frequently and know the citizenship status of random people in the wait room. And no one else does. Almost like people are full of shit.
You live in Spokane. You have to search far and wide to find a Hispanic there.
Ok, lets talk about why two of the claims you made that you said were "facts" were actually pure bullshit. Why did you then lie and claim we were both wrong when only you were wrong and why did you lie and claim my numbers included student and tourist temporary visas when the numbers I cited clearly stated they were for permanent resident immigrants?
I accepted where I was wrong and explained where I was coming from.
You sure do get obsessed with shit and can't let it go. I bet you are a blast at parties.
Everything in this response by you was either a lie or you putting your head up your ass take your pick. And none of what you posted here supported the claims that you said were "facts."
Amazing how a few conservatives here are in the ER frequently and know the citizenship status of random people in the wait room. And no one else does. Almost like people are full of shit.
No doubt all of those foreigners in the ER were just one of those 60K a year immigrants we allow in right Hondo?
Ok, lets talk about why two of the claims you made that you said were "facts" were actually pure bullshit. Why did you then lie and claim we were both wrong when only you were wrong and why did you lie and claim my numbers included student and tourist temporary visas when the numbers I cited clearly stated they were for permanent resident immigrants?
I accepted where I was wrong and explained where I was coming from.
You sure do get obsessed with shit and can't let it go. I bet you are a blast at parties.
Everything in this response by you was either a lie or you putting your head up your ass take your pick. And none of what you posted here supported the claims that you said were "facts."
Amazing how a few conservatives here are in the ER frequently and know the citizenship status of random people in the wait room. And no one else does. Almost like people are full of shit.
No doubt all of those foreigners in the ER were just one of those 60K a year immigrants we allow in right Hondo?
Ok, lets talk about why two of the claims you made that you said were "facts" were actually pure bullshit. Why did you then lie and claim we were both wrong when only you were wrong and why did you lie and claim my numbers included student and tourist temporary visas when the numbers I cited clearly stated they were for permanent resident immigrants?
I accepted where I was wrong and explained where I was coming from.
You sure do get obsessed with shit and can't let it go. I bet you are a blast at parties.
Everything in this response by you was either a lie or you putting your head up your ass take your pick. And none of what you posted here supported the claims that you said were "facts."
Amazing how a few conservatives here are in the ER frequently and know the citizenship status of random people in the wait room. And no one else does. Almost like people are full of shit.
No doubt all of those foreigners in the ER were just one of those 60K a year immigrants we allow in right Hondo?
$60k ? That's your number? I was making 60 K when @Racebannon was still making it with cheerleaders. No wonder you and your family have to stand in line. Jesus. Get off the inter-webs and get to work. You are fucking poor.
Amazing how a few conservatives here are in the ER frequently and know the citizenship status of random people in the wait room. And no one else does. Almost like people are full of shit.
You live in Spokane. You have to search far and wide to find a Hispanic there.
Moses Lake is only 90 miles away.
I must say: the Throbber is a severely underrated thread interloper. His interjections make me laff like @Swaye 's idiot hyena.
Ok, lets talk about why two of the claims you made that you said were "facts" were actually pure bullshit. Why did you then lie and claim we were both wrong when only you were wrong and why did you lie and claim my numbers included student and tourist temporary visas when the numbers I cited clearly stated they were for permanent resident immigrants?
I accepted where I was wrong and explained where I was coming from.
You sure do get obsessed with shit and can't let it go. I bet you are a blast at parties.
Everything in this response by you was either a lie or you putting your head up your ass take your pick. And none of what you posted here supported the claims that you said were "facts."
Amazing how a few conservatives here are in the ER frequently and know the citizenship status of random people in the wait room. And no one else does. Almost like people are full of shit.
No doubt all of those foreigners in the ER were just one of those 60K a year immigrants we allow in right Hondo?
$60k ? That's your number? I was making 60 K when @Racebannon was still making it with cheerleaders. No wonder you and your family have to stand in line. Jesus. Get off the inter-webs and get to work. You are fucking poor.
60K ain't my number. That's the guy you were blowing, Hondo's number. Try reading before you run you mouth Coug. Or you could just use your mind reading skills.
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You dont have to go to a hospital near where you live
Why are you in the ER so often? We know as sure as shit it's not because you're a doc. You a fucking nurse or something?
How many times have you been to an ER in a state with large numbers of illegals?
Um, not many. I try and stay out of the ER. I'm funny that way.
We prefer to schedule our medical appointments with practitioners and not use the ER as our primary health care. I understand you do what you have to do.
She looks like a squirter to me.
Those folks are a net gain to our economy!!!