People living in poverty in America

SFGbob

Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

oregonblitzkrieg

Would like to hear @creepycoug 's views on this subject.

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

Let's start with facts then we can answer your question.

1) there's been a net zero migration the last 10 years.

2) most illegals enter the country legally first then overstay their Visa.

3) the number of legal immigrants we allow each year is about 60,000.

Ok?

TierbsHsotBoobs

Someone's got to do America's cooking and cleaning.

2001400ex

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Someone's got to do America's cooking and cleaning.

Don't forget bean picking.

Sledog

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

Let's start with facts then we can answer your question.

1) there's been a net zero migration the last 10 years.

2) most illegals enter the country legally first then overstay their Visa.

3) the number of legal immigrants we allow each year is about 60,000.

Ok?

FOS!

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

Let's start with facts then we can answer your question.

1) there's been a net zero migration the last 10 years.

2) most illegals enter the country legally first then overstay their Visa.

3) the number of legal immigrants we allow each year is about 60,000.

Ok?

I think you mean Let’s start with raft of bullshit that doesn’t address a fucking word I said

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

Let's start with facts then we can answer your question.

1) there's been a net zero migration the last 10 years.

2) most illegals enter the country legally first then overstay their Visa.

3) the number of legal immigrants we allow each year is about 60,000.

Ok?

I think you mean Let’s start with raft of bullshit that doesn’t address a fucking word I said

It completely addresses what you said. But ok!

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

Let's start with facts then we can answer your question.

1) there's been a net zero migration the last 10 years.

2) most illegals enter the country legally first then overstay their Visa.

3) the number of legal immigrants we allow each year is about 60,000.

Ok?

And of course, you couldn't have a Hondo post without him talking straight of of his ass.


Since 2000, legal immigrants to the United States number approximately 1,000,000 per year, of whom about 600,000 are Change of Status who already are in the U.S. Legal immigrants to the United States now are at their highest level ever, at just over 37,000,000 legal immigrants.

SFGbob

Here's a graph showing the total annual number of US legal immigrants has averaged over a million a year since 2000.

https://migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/Annual-Number-of-US-Legal-Permanent-Residents

Hondo is full of shit.

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

Here's a graph showing the total annual number of US legal immigrants has averaged over a million a year since 2000.

https://migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/Annual-Number-of-US-Legal-Permanent-Residents

Hondo is full of shit.

So I was wrong but so are you. I was talking permanent visas. Your number includes temporary and tourist visas. Here are the actual stats I was referring to. (Below is copy pasta). The number I was referring to are the work visas at 70k. I didn't include the families and low skilled workers. Either way, we were both wrong but it's not millions a year that your original contention was.




The vast majority (about 80 percent) are tourist visas that are good for people to come and go up to six months at a time over a five-to-10-year period. People with tourist visas are almost always not allowed to the work in the U.S.

There are also temporary visas for students, diplomats, members of the media, fiancés, religious workers, victims of crime and more.

Another large group in the nonimmigrant category are employment visas. These can be transfers to the U.S. within international companies (70,000) and their families (86,000) and low-skilled seasonal workers (220,000).

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/04/19/gq-visas/