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People living in poverty in America

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  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,206

    SFGbob said:



    I'm quiet about the problems with the welfare state? You know me so fucking well its spooky

    Ok!!!

    As it relates to protecting American workers and wages from competitive labor, put up your own capital to the 'problem' and then get back to me. Until then, I'm not interested in the question.
    pay your own cotton pickers more if youre such a humanitarian
    yes i own 500 slaves so what
    Huh?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,202
    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    I've ran into a lot of strange fucks. I'm fine with you being homo.... Many of my friends are. But being into inanimate objects is just fucking weird.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,202
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Here's a graph showing the total annual number of US legal immigrants has averaged over a million a year since 2000.

    https://migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/Annual-Number-of-US-Legal-Permanent-Residents

    Hondo is full of shit.

    So I was wrong but so are you. I was talking permanent visas. Your number includes temporary and tourist visas. Here are the actual stats I was referring to. (Below is copy pasta). The number I was referring to are the work visas at 70k. I didn't include the families and low skilled workers. Either way, we were both wrong but it's not millions a year that your original contention was.


    https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/04/19/gq-visas/
    Liar or moron Hondo? Or is it both?

  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,202
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    I've ran into a lot of strange fucks. I'm fine with you being homo.... Many of my friends are. But being into inanimate objects is just fucking weird.
    Yeah, that's probably the angle I'd go with as well Hondo after I'd just been exposed a lying dumbfuck. Kind of shocked you didn't go with the claim that you were just "trolling" me but coming up with a pathetic attempt to say I'm gay rather than admit you were talking squarely out your ass seems about right for you.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,206
    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!

    I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?

    With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,202

    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!

    I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?

    With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
    You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,206
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!

    I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?

    With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
    You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
    Ok. Just hang yourself.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,202

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!

    I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?

    With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
    You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
    Ok. Just hang yourself.
    Hey Coug, since you're obviously a mind reader what am I think right now?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!

    I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?

    With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
    You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
    Ok. Just hang yourself.
    Hey Coug, since you're obviously a mind reader what am I think right now?
    You're wondering whether it's time to pull your head out of your ass so as to more easily hang yourself.

    Amirite?
    Is it ok if I warn him that you are a white Hispanic. The worst kind of Hispanic?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,202

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!

    I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?

    With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
    You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
    Ok. Just hang yourself.
    Hey Coug, since you're obviously a mind reader what am I think right now?
    You're wondering whether it's time to pull your head out of your ass so as to more easily hang yourself.

    Amirite?
    Buzzzt wrong, I was thinking you're a mouthy Kunt who couldn't back up a fucking word you said regarding what I think and believe.


    I'm actually in favor of abolishing all welfare programs and think that people would be amazed at the jobs Americans would be willing to do if their motivation was to eat.

    I don't favor paying people $55K a year + benies to pick fruit unless that is what the market dictates in order to get the job done but I suspect technology would resolve that issue long before wages reached that level. Saying I'm quite about the bigger problems of the welfare state is a claim made by someone who's head is planted firmly up their ass who knows absolutely nothing about what my politics and positions on the issues actually are.

    I don't assume that immigration is a zero/sum for domestic workers. Again that's another claim you pulled squarely out of your ass. But there is no denying that illegal immigration depresses wages in some industries.

    What I oppose is providing businesses with cheap illegal immigrant labor that we as taxpayer then have to subsidize in the form of increased costs for social services and decreasing quality of life issues such as having to wait 4 hours in an ER to get stitches in my kid's leg because the place is full of illegals who are using it as their primary care provider.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,206

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!

    I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?

    With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
    You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
    Ok. Just hang yourself.
    Hey Coug, since you're obviously a mind reader what am I think right now?
    You're wondering whether it's time to pull your head out of your ass so as to more easily hang yourself.

    Amirite?
    Is it ok if I warn him that you are a white Hispanic. The worst kind of Hispanic?
    Let him take his chances.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,206
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!

    I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?

    With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
    You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
    Ok. Just hang yourself.
    Hey Coug, since you're obviously a mind reader what am I think right now?
    You're wondering whether it's time to pull your head out of your ass so as to more easily hang yourself.

    Amirite?
    Buzzzt wrong, I was thinking you're a mouthy Kunt who couldn't back up a fucking word you said regarding what I think and believe.


    I'm actually in favor of abolishing all welfare programs and think that people would be amazed at the jobs Americans would be willing to do if their motivation was to eat.

    I don't favor paying people $55K a year + benies to pick fruit unless that is what the market dictates in order to get the job done but I suspect technology would resolve that issue long before wages reached that level. Saying I'm quite about the bigger problems of the welfare state is a claim made by someone who's head is planted firmly up their ass who knows absolutely nothing about what my politics and positions on the issues actually are.

    I don't assume that immigration is a zero/sum for domestic workers. Again that's another claim you pulled squarely out of your ass. But there is no denying that illegal immigration depresses wages in some industries.

    What I oppose is providing businesses with cheap illegal immigrant labor that we as taxpayer then have to subsidize in the form of increased costs for social services and decreasing quality of life issues such as having to wait 4 hours in an ER to get stitches in my kid's leg because the place is full of illegals who are using it as their primary care provider.
    tl;dr

    and

    IDRGAF
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,202
    edited September 2018
    What a fucking Kunt.

    Accuse me of thinking and believing an extended amount of pure bullshit and then when I take the time the time to respond the fucking Kunt runs and hides.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!

    I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?

    With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
    You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
    Ok. Just hang yourself.
    Hey Coug, since you're obviously a mind reader what am I think right now?
    You're wondering whether it's time to pull your head out of your ass so as to more easily hang yourself.

    Amirite?
    Buzzzt wrong, I was thinking you're a mouthy Kunt who couldn't back up a fucking word you said regarding what I think and believe.


    I'm actually in favor of abolishing all welfare programs and think that people would be amazed at the jobs Americans would be willing to do if their motivation was to eat.

    I don't favor paying people $55K a year + benies to pick fruit unless that is what the market dictates in order to get the job done but I suspect technology would resolve that issue long before wages reached that level. Saying I'm quite about the bigger problems of the welfare state is a claim made by someone who's head is planted firmly up their ass who knows absolutely nothing about what my politics and positions on the issues actually are.

    I don't assume that immigration is a zero/sum for domestic workers. Again that's another claim you pulled squarely out of your ass. But there is no denying that illegal immigration depresses wages in some industries.

    What I oppose is providing businesses with cheap illegal immigrant labor that we as taxpayer then have to subsidize in the form of increased costs for social services and decreasing quality of life issues such as having to wait 4 hours in an ER to get stitches in my kid's leg because the place is full of illegals who are using it as their primary care provider.
    When have you ever waited in an ER full of illegals. For real man. That's some bullshit.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,206
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    Oh shit oh mighty, the tin-foil hat, alt-facts, alt-media, alt-handle, xenophobe pussy who's afraid of labor competition because his white-trash friends and family can't cut it even with a head start found a new word. Good for you Bart!

    I wonder how many opportunities you'll find to play with your new word?

    With every passing day, I care less and less and less about the plight of those who can't run with the bulls. The answer to your original "question"? Let them eat fucking cake. I don't care.
    You're pulling claims straight out of your ass. You have no idea what my position is on welfare, in fact you've already made numerous erroneous assumptions about what I supposedly believe and or want based entirely on the voices in your own head an not on anything I've said.
    Ok. Just hang yourself.
    Hey Coug, since you're obviously a mind reader what am I think right now?
    You're wondering whether it's time to pull your head out of your ass so as to more easily hang yourself.

    Amirite?
    Buzzzt wrong, I was thinking you're a mouthy Kunt who couldn't back up a fucking word you said regarding what I think and believe.


    I'm actually in favor of abolishing all welfare programs and think that people would be amazed at the jobs Americans would be willing to do if their motivation was to eat.

    I don't favor paying people $55K a year + benies to pick fruit unless that is what the market dictates in order to get the job done but I suspect technology would resolve that issue long before wages reached that level. Saying I'm quite about the bigger problems of the welfare state is a claim made by someone who's head is planted firmly up their ass who knows absolutely nothing about what my politics and positions on the issues actually are.

    I don't assume that immigration is a zero/sum for domestic workers. Again that's another claim you pulled squarely out of your ass. But there is no denying that illegal immigration depresses wages in some industries.

    What I oppose is providing businesses with cheap illegal immigrant labor that we as taxpayer then have to subsidize in the form of increased costs for social services and decreasing quality of life issues such as having to wait 4 hours in an ER to get stitches in my kid's leg because the place is full of illegals who are using it as their primary care provider.
    When have you ever waited in an ER full of illegals. For real man. That's some bullshit.
    Maybe he's pour.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,206
    SFGbob said:

    What a fucking Kunt.

    Accuse me of thinking and believing an extended amount of pure bullshit and then when I take the time the time to respond the fucking Kunt runs and hides.

    You sound upset.

    And poor.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,792 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Let's start with facts then we can answer your question.

    1) there's been a net zero migration the last 10 years.

    2) most illegals enter the country legally first then overstay their Visa.

    3) the number of legal immigrants we allow each year is about 60,000.

    Ok?
    And of course, you couldn't have a Hondo post without him talking straight of of his ass.


    Since 2000, legal immigrants to the United States number approximately 1,000,000 per year, of whom about 600,000 are Change of Status who already are in the U.S. Legal immigrants to the United States now are at their highest level ever, at just over 37,000,000 legal immigrants.
    Did you ever think Snotty II would be found? I suppose it is inevitable. There's 4-5 of the same shedtards here living in dumfukistan. They represent all the that is wrong in our country.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,792 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, I’m game for pretty much all comers. And You can’t really call what I’ve done with Hondo a debate.

    Unless you consider someone who does noth

    SFGbob said:

    Since the unwed mother angle of the thread below got started when someone cited Social Programs as a great way to eliminate poverty I thought I would toss out the question. What impact of allowing millions of illiterate, and low skilled into this country, many of them illegally, do you think has on the poverty rate of this country and what impact do you think these low skilled immigrants have on the existing wage base for low skilled American workers?

    Do you think these existing workers are helped in their quest to get themselves out of poverty with this influx of immigrants or are they hurt by it?

    Your first mistake was using the term "workers" to describe the considerable population of able-bodied Americans who would rather work the system than work their way out of poverty. But you and your friends probably don't care about that so much. Way more fun to focus on the much smaller problem of undocumented brownies.

    Nobody wants uncontrolled immigration; but I find it terrible interesting that the people so obsessed with that issue are relatively quiet about the much bigger problem of the welfare state. The toothless hillbilly in Arkansas is a toothless hillbilly because he and his family suck; it has nothing to do with Pablo.

    You also assume that immigration is zero/sum for domestic workers. It's not.

    This country's system is based on competition; it is not meant to function on irrational guarantees of work and wages. If you want to pay people $55k a year + benies to pick fruit then you put up your capital and do it and quit whining.

    Finally, if you're going to ask rhetorical questions, try and make them less obvious.
    Sweet Geezus is there ever a gaggle of strawman ass fuckers on this board.
    I've ran into a lot of strange fucks. I'm fine with you being homo.... Many of my friends are. But being into inanimate objects is just fucking weird.
    Fuck off faggot!
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