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It appears the tax cuts aren't paying for themselves
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Answer the question.RaceBannon said:
Behold the modern democrat2001400ex said:
Ok I'll bite. How do you encourage marriage without government intervention.SFGbob said:
Not what I said either. I just said that you were really serious about reducing poverty you'd strongly encourage people to get married before having kids. There was a very valid reason why that social stigma existed and it wasn't all about people being puritanical prudes.Squirt said:
Can't even conceive of something being possible with out the Gubmint forcing you -
Read the thread moron my answer is there
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Gosh, how did we keep out of wedlock birth rates so low prior to the 1960s all without any government intervention.RaceBannon said:
Behold the modern democrat2001400ex said:
Ok I'll bite. How do you encourage marriage without government intervention.SFGbob said:
Not what I said either. I just said that you were really serious about reducing poverty you'd strongly encourage people to get married before having kids. There was a very valid reason why that social stigma existed and it wasn't all about people being puritanical prudes.Squirt said:
Can't even conceive of something being possible with out the Gubmint forcing you -
No. It's. Not.RaceBannon said:Read the thread moron my answer is there
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RaceBannon said:
If you wear your seatbelt you have a better chance of surviving a wreck. Doesn't mean the government has to force you to wear it even though they do. It used to be done with public service announcements and the AD CouncilSquirt said:
You want to knock some chick up at 17 and marry her and life in a trailer park the government will let you.
The other side of the coin is why should the government pay for your shitty choice? -
Even better solution. Fund sex-ed and birth control and you don't have to worry about forcing trashy parents to stay get and stay married.SFGbob said:
First of all tell me why it's not a valid solution to deal with poverty? Take a look at the numbers.BennyBeaver said:
Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?SFGbob said:
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
If want to ensure that people in America today don't end up living in poverty you would encourage them to do 4 simple things.
1) Don't drop out of high school.
2) Don't have kids until you're married and once you get married stay married.
3) Get a job, any fucking job and keep it and do not quit that job until you've lined up a better or equal job.
4) Don't abuse drugs and don't abuse alcohol.
Do all of these things and the odds that either you or your kids will be living in poverty are extremely fucking low. -
Race. Who pays for the public service announcements? Are they just funded from thin air?RaceBannon said:RaceBannon said:
If you wear your seatbelt you have a better chance of surviving a wreck. Doesn't mean the government has to force you to wear it even though they do. It used to be done with public service announcements and the AD CouncilSquirt said:
You want to knock some chick up at 17 and marry her and life in a trailer park the government will let you.
The other side of the coin is why should the government pay for your shitty choice? -
You really believe the out of wedlock birth rate has something to do with the lack of Sex-ed and birth control? How was it that we were able to have such low out of wedlock birth rates prior to the 1960s when there was very little access to birth control and no sex ed?UWhuskytskeet said:
Even better solution. Fund sex-ed and birth control and you don't have to worry about forcing trashy parents to stay get and stay married.SFGbob said:
First of all tell me why it's not a valid solution to deal with poverty? Take a look at the numbers.BennyBeaver said:
Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?SFGbob said:
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
If want to ensure that people in America today don't end up living in poverty you would encourage them to do 4 simple things.
1) Don't drop out of high school.
2) Don't have kids until you're married and once you get married stay married.
3) Get a job, any fucking job and keep it and do not quit that job until you've lined up a better or equal job.
4) Don't abuse drugs and don't abuse alcohol.
Do all of these things and the odds that either you or your kids will be living in poverty are extremely fucking low. -
Segregation and Truancy officersSFGbob said:
You really believe the out of wedlock birth rate has something to do with the lack of Sex-ed and birth control? How was it that we were able to have such low out of wedlock birth rates prior to the 1960s when there was very little access to birth control and no sex ed?UWhuskytskeet said:
Even better solution. Fund sex-ed and birth control and you don't have to worry about forcing trashy parents to stay get and stay married.SFGbob said:
First of all tell me why it's not a valid solution to deal with poverty? Take a look at the numbers.BennyBeaver said:
Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?SFGbob said:
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
If want to ensure that people in America today don't end up living in poverty you would encourage them to do 4 simple things.
1) Don't drop out of high school.
2) Don't have kids until you're married and once you get married stay married.
3) Get a job, any fucking job and keep it and do not quit that job until you've lined up a better or equal job.
4) Don't abuse drugs and don't abuse alcohol.
Do all of these things and the odds that either you or your kids will be living in poverty are extremely fucking low. -
SF Gay Bob, don't disagree but this a pretty much an intractable problem as this point. The sexual revolution won and marriage is a dying institution for the pours.SFGbob said:A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty.
