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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?
    First of all tell me why it's not a valid solution to deal with poverty? Take a look at the numbers.

    If want to ensure that people in America today don't end up living in poverty you would encourage them to do 4 simple things.

    1) Don't drop out of high school.

    2) Don't have kids until you're married and once you get married stay married.

    3) Get a job, any fucking job and keep it and do not quit that job until you've lined up a better or equal job.

    4) Don't abuse drugs and don't abuse alcohol.

    Do all of these things and the odds that either you or your kids will be living in poverty are extremely fucking low.
    Even better solution. Fund sex-ed and birth control and you don't have to worry about forcing trashy parents to stay get and stay married.
    You really believe the out of wedlock birth rate has something to do with the lack of Sex-ed and birth control? How was it that we were able to have such low out of wedlock birth rates prior to the 1960s when there was very little access to birth control and no sex ed?
    Maybe because women married at 14 and were told to stay in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant.
    Another claimed pulled straight out of your ass.
    Poast more links to the Washington examiner.
    Are you claiming that the quote and the number provided from the Examiner wasn't accurate or are you just engaging in the standard Kunt act you preform here Hondo?
    Yes. That number is not accurate. Read the thread again.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,257 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.

    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty.

    Instead of government intervention in welfare. You want government intervention in marriage and family values. To have all of America align their values with yours. Makes sense.

    El oh El.
    Who do you pretend the strawman is when you fuck it in the ass Hondo?

    I would like society as a whole to place as much stigma on having children out of wedlock as they do on say smoking or using the the phrase "that's so gay." I didn't say anything about government intervention my strawman ass fucking Kunt of friend.
    More homoerotic talk. You need a good pegging and a cigarette to calm down.
    Fuck off faggot
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?
    First of all tell me why it's not a valid solution to deal with poverty? Take a look at the numbers.

    If want to ensure that people in America today don't end up living in poverty you would encourage them to do 4 simple things.

    1) Don't drop out of high school.

    2) Don't have kids until you're married and once you get married stay married.

    3) Get a job, any fucking job and keep it and do not quit that job until you've lined up a better or equal job.

    4) Don't abuse drugs and don't abuse alcohol.

    Do all of these things and the odds that either you or your kids will be living in poverty are extremely fucking low.
    Even better solution. Fund sex-ed and birth control and you don't have to worry about forcing trashy parents to stay get and stay married.
    You really believe the out of wedlock birth rate has something to do with the lack of Sex-ed and birth control? How was it that we were able to have such low out of wedlock birth rates prior to the 1960s when there was very little access to birth control and no sex ed?
    Maybe because women married at 14 and were told to stay in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant.
    Another claimed pulled straight out of your ass.
    Poast more links to the Washington examiner.
    Are you claiming that the quote and the number provided from the Examiner wasn't accurate or are you just engaging in the standard Kunt act you preform here Hondo?
    Yes. That number is not accurate. Read the thread again.
    Actually the $500 Million figure was accurate and I never claimed that was supposed to be what it would cost for each year going forward. You're a liar a dumbfuck Hondo.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.

    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty.

    Instead of government intervention in welfare. You want government intervention in marriage and family values. To have all of America align their values with yours. Makes sense.

    El oh El.
    Who do you pretend the strawman is when you fuck it in the ass Hondo?

    I would like society as a whole to place as much stigma on having children out of wedlock as they do on say smoking or using the the phrase "that's so gay." I didn't say anything about government intervention my strawman ass fucking Kunt of friend.
    More homoerotic talk. You need a good pegging and a cigarette to calm down.
    Fuck off faggot
    lulz
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?
    First of all tell me why it's not a valid solution to deal with poverty? Take a look at the numbers.

    If want to ensure that people in America today don't end up living in poverty you would encourage them to do 4 simple things.

    1) Don't drop out of high school.

    2) Don't have kids until you're married and once you get married stay married.

    3) Get a job, any fucking job and keep it and do not quit that job until you've lined up a better or equal job.

    4) Don't abuse drugs and don't abuse alcohol.

    Do all of these things and the odds that either you or your kids will be living in poverty are extremely fucking low.
    1, 3, 5 are all valid ways to stay out of poverty. Agreed. But you only made point 2 in the post to which I replied. I'm sensing a little bit of a moving target.

    For 2, you might as well say: don't have kids. Period. The little bloodsuckers are a drain on a wallet, married or not.

    I don't doubt that there's a high number of poor, unwed mothers out here. Causation or correlation?!

    But you haven't answered my question. How do you do this "encouragement" you want to do?
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    SFGbob said:



    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.

    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty.

    Instead of government intervention in welfare. You want government intervention in marriage and family values. To have all of America align their values with yours. Makes sense.

    El oh El.
    Why do you assume it takes the government to teach people that if they are responsible they won't be living in poverty? It doesn't
    Why are you quoting me in your point when SFGbob is the one looking for someone to encourage people to live a certain way, and I'm just axing him how he proposes to do that?
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Squirt said:

    SFGbob said:

    Squirt said:

    Gonna need @Swaye to weigh in on @SFGbob's make-everyone-get-married platform.

    Not what I said either. I just said that you were really serious about reducing poverty you'd strongly encourage people to get married before having kids. There was a very valid reason why that social stigma existed and it wasn't all about people being puritanical prudes.
    I know. I was just trying to have a laugh.
    Bob just needs more tim to get his HH reads down.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,621 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:



    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.

    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty.

    Instead of government intervention in welfare. You want government intervention in marriage and family values. To have all of America align their values with yours. Makes sense.

    El oh El.
    Why do you assume it takes the government to teach people that if they are responsible they won't be living in poverty? It doesn't
    Why are you quoting me in your point when SFGbob is the one looking for someone to encourage people to live a certain way, and I'm just axing him how he proposes to do that?
    Answer the question
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    SFGbob said:



    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.

    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty.

    Instead of government intervention in welfare. You want government intervention in marriage and family values. To have all of America align their values with yours. Makes sense.

    El oh El.
    Why do you assume it takes the government to teach people that if they are responsible they won't be living in poverty? It doesn't
    Why are you quoting me in your point when SFGbob is the one looking for someone to encourage people to live a certain way, and I'm just axing him how he proposes to do that?
    Answer the question
    No. Invalid question. Axe a better question and you might get an answer.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,563 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:



    If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.

    Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?
    First of all tell me why it's not a valid solution to deal with poverty? Take a look at the numbers.

    If want to ensure that people in America today don't end up living in poverty you would encourage them to do 4 simple things.

    1) Don't drop out of high school.

    2) Don't have kids until you're married and once you get married stay married.

    3) Get a job, any fucking job and keep it and do not quit that job until you've lined up a better or equal job.

    4) Don't abuse drugs and don't abuse alcohol.

    Do all of these things and the odds that either you or your kids will be living in poverty are extremely fucking low.
    Even better solution. Fund sex-ed and birth control and you don't have to worry about forcing trashy parents to stay get and stay married.
    You really believe the out of wedlock birth rate has something to do with the lack of Sex-ed and birth control? How was it that we were able to have such low out of wedlock birth rates prior to the 1960s when there was very little access to birth control and no sex ed?
    Maybe because women married at 14 and were told to stay in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant.
    I see nothing wrong with this model.
    We mustn't judge your Injun ways.