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Maybe Dems are starting to _get it_

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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    salemcoog said:

    What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama

    16 years between them

    It's not that hard

    Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.
    They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard left
    Obama went out of his way to appeal to the hard left.

    Nobody wins without their base. So advising democrats to chase unicorn independent voters and steer away from their base is great advice if you want democrats to lose.
    Disagree. He ran to the middle, because that’s all He had to do to beat McCain after the economy crashed. And THEN, he Governed to the far left. And then the 2010 midterms let him know that shit wasn’t gonna work. And once it was campaign time again, he ran back to the middle for 2012. And THEN!!, was a lame duck for the next 4 years.
    I’m not surprised a racist pos like you has no idea what’s actually happening.

    Nothing says far left like his crowning achievement being a republican healthcare plan from the 90s.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    salemcoog said:

    What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama

    16 years between them

    It's not that hard

    Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.
    They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard left
    Obama went out of his way to appeal to the hard left.

    Nobody wins without their base. So advising democrats to chase unicorn independent voters and steer away from their base is great advice if you want democrats to lose.
    Disagree. He ran to the middle, because that’s all He had to do to beat McCain after the economy crashed. And THEN, he Governed to the far left. And then the 2010 midterms let him know that shit wasn’t gonna work. And once it was campaign time again, he ran back to the middle for 2012. And THEN!!, was a lame duck for the next 4 years.
    I’m not surprised a racist pos like you has no idea what’s actually happening.

    Nothing says far left like his crowning achievement being a republican healthcare plan from the 90s.
    The “nappy haired” comment on the other thread was a nice little Don Imus tribute to pair with “minorities get and want free shit” from a few days before. He’s been on quite the racist run recently.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,379

    What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama

    16 years between them

    It's not that hard

    Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.
    They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard left
    And a good one at that.

    Answer me this: Who is our? (My Dems) next rainmaker? Asking for several hundred million of us (Voters: legal, alive, or not)
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    salemcoog said:

    What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama

    16 years between them

    It's not that hard

    Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.
    They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard left
    Obama went out of his way to appeal to the hard left.

    Nobody wins without their base. So advising democrats to chase unicorn independent voters and steer away from their base is great advice if you want democrats to lose.
    Disagree. He ran to the middle, because that’s all He had to do to beat McCain after the economy crashed. And THEN, he Governed to the far left. And then the 2010 midterms let him know that shit wasn’t gonna work. And once it was campaign time again, he ran back to the middle for 2012. And THEN!!, was a lame duck for the next 4 years.
    I’m not surprised a racist pos like you has no idea what’s actually happening.

    Nothing says far left like his crowning achievement being a republican healthcare plan from the 90s.
    Ah Yes. The Socialists now call it Romneycare instead of Obamacare and call it a policy of the right. L O L!!!

    I’m guessing it’s due to it being his only significant accomplishment in his 8 years. But now they run away from it.

    However our resident Socialists aren’t running away from their number one go to, the race card. As always, good luck the rest of the way.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Sledog said:

    What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama

    16 years between them

    It's not that hard

    They could win poltical power for a variety of reasons (many external), but when it came to exerting political power for their constituency they were woeful.

    Obama got to run against the record of the muslim murder cowboy, McCain-Palin (good lord), and an avatar of corporate greed in Romney. Layups.

    Then when in office both Clinton and Obama governed incredibly conservatively. And now we have a country with the highest level of inequality since the gilded age and a permanent war footing.

    The new deal democrats were able to hold congress for 40+ years because they were accountable to their constituency: the working class. It really is no surprise that democrats have their weakest political power since the early 20th century given the betrayals since ‘92.
    Is that why you went commie?
    You’re defintely too dumb to understand the nuances in left ideology but for the record I’m a democratic socialist which is situated to the right of socialsm and left of social democracy. It’s where the democrats used to be from FDR to LBJ. Back when they gave a shit about organized labor, which was in turn sold out by the “new democrats” and neoliberalism.
    You’d never vote for JKF today
    Interesting assertion. Though I detest the Clintons and what they’ve done to the democratic party over my lifetime I held my nose and voted for her because even neoliberalism is preferable to the current Republican party.

    JFK was Northeast old money like FDR but they both knew what their voters wanted and delivered for them.
    My gawd you are a pretentious cuck.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    Baseman said:

    What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama

    16 years between them

    It's not that hard

    Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.
    They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard left
    And a good one at that.

    Answer me this: Who is our? (My Dems) next rainmaker? Asking for several hundred million of us (Voters: legal, alive, or not)
    The centrist/compromise candidate lost to Trump
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,727 Founders Club

    Maybe the election is getting closer?


  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676

    Baseman said:

    What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama

    16 years between them

    It's not that hard

    Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.
    They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard left
    And a good one at that.

    Answer me this: Who is our? (My Dems) next rainmaker? Asking for several hundred million of us (Voters: legal, alive, or not)
    The centrist/compromise candidate lost to Trump

    Hillary Clinton lost to Trump. I have no clue what her policies were and dont care
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Baseman said:

    What has worked for the democrats is Bubba and Obama

    16 years between them

    It's not that hard

    Clinton was a long time ago and Obama had fuck all to do with any position or policy he ever had.
    They won 4 elections which is the point. How they governed is another story. They didn't won going hard left
    And a good one at that.

    Answer me this: Who is our? (My Dems) next rainmaker? Asking for several hundred million of us (Voters: legal, alive, or not)
    The centrist/compromise candidate lost to Trump

    Hillary Clinton lost to Trump. I have no clue what her policies were and dont care
    Clinton’s first year of campaigning attempted to break free of Obama and run a centrist campaign. But once things got tight, she simply parroted Obama the last 2 months of the campaign as she circled down the drain.