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ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
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I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up. -
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too. -
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh. -
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent. -
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent. -
I was just in Nogales a few hundred feet from the wall. It sucks. Trump needs to hurry up. Nothing is going to stop everyone. Saying a good wall won't deter anyone is dumb though.
The wall is part of it. NAFTA also needs to go or be renegotiated (hi Cirrhosis). Employers who knowingly hire illegals need to pay. That's everyone from Walmart to construction to Wendy's to the upper middle class professionals who hire Jorge to clean the pool or do roofing for less than companies would charge. People like Obama, the Clintons, and Sanders used to ascribe to this. They knew it hurt American labor. Then over the past 5-10 years, it became suddenly racist and to offensive to Latinxxxs to just state the fucking obvious. -
I’m sorry you and your fellow troomps (including the ones that voted for obama or Clinton) can’t compete against third world labor.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I was just in Nogales a few hundred feet from the wall. It sucks. Trump needs to hurry up. Nothing is going to stop everyone. Saying a good wall won't deter anyone is dumb though.
The wall is part of it. NAFTA also needs to go or be renegotiated (hi Cirrhosis). Employers who knowingly hire illegals need to pay. That's everyone from Walmart to construction to Wendy's to the upper middle class professionals who hire Jorge to clean the pool or do roofing for less than companies would charge. People like Obama, the Clintons, and Sanders used to ascribe to this. They knew it hurt American labor. Then over the past 5-10 years, it became suddenly racist and to offensive to Latinxxxs to just state the fucking obvious.
I am also sorry to tell you that there won’t be a wall. And while there is demand, the flow of labor from south of the border will continue unabated. It could be managed, controlled and directed but that doesn’t fit your scapegoating trumpian ways.
Good luck the rest of the way! -
You know a great way to direct it?CirrhosisDawg said:
I’m sorry you and your fellow troomps (including the ones that voted for obama or Clinton) can’t compete against third world labor.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I was just in Nogales a few hundred feet from the wall. It sucks. Trump needs to hurry up. Nothing is going to stop everyone. Saying a good wall won't deter anyone is dumb though.
The wall is part of it. NAFTA also needs to go or be renegotiated (hi Cirrhosis). Employers who knowingly hire illegals need to pay. That's everyone from Walmart to construction to Wendy's to the upper middle class professionals who hire Jorge to clean the pool or do roofing for less than companies would charge. People like Obama, the Clintons, and Sanders used to ascribe to this. They knew it hurt American labor. Then over the past 5-10 years, it became suddenly racist and to offensive to Latinxxxs to just state the fucking obvious.
I am also sorry to tell you that there won’t be a wall. And while there is demand, the flow of labor from south of the border will continue unabated. It could be managed, controlled and directed but that doesn’t fit your scapegoating trumpian ways.
Good luck the rest of the way!
Make sure they have to go around. -
So if something is really difficult, and expensive, and they hear from credible sources that their chances of succeeding are much lower.....it won't deter anyone?ThomasFremont said:
No it won’t. And you’re dumb if you think it will.Pitchfork51 said:
not at all. dont give a fuck about the peopleThomasFremont said:
Now you care about the coyotes preying on the innocent?Pitchfork51 said:
Holy fuck.ThomasFremont said:
I’m glad we agree that the wall does nothing to address the underlying issues.Pitchfork51 said:ThomasFremont said:
No. It’s outdated and ineffective. You think some immigrant family is gonna risk everything, but then give up simply because there is a bigger wall?Pitchfork51 said:
okay so a bunch of poor miserable people traipsing through the desert carrying ladders and ropes and explosives.ThomasFremont said:
Tunnels, ladders, ropes, boats, airplanes, explosives...these are just a few easy ways to deal with a wall. Throwing a shit ton of money at the wall to have it maybe stop less than 40% (and that’s a very generous estimate) is FS. They will just come another way.Pitchfork51 said:
It makes it far far more difficult. Therefore allowing us to focus on the narrower scope of ways they can actually get in2001400ex said:
If you think building a wall will stop the other 40%, you are FS. You clearly have never been down by the border.Pitchfork51 said:"Most come in legally" might be the dumbest of all the lefts arguments.
Okay if 60 percent come in and overstay their visas, but we stop majority of the other 40 percent.....
Then that makes a huge fucking difference!!
"Most come in legally! What's the point of even trying to stop anyone at all!"
Honestly if this weren't a bizarre political thing no one would disagree with it.
It's fucking absurd the lengths the left are going to with this.
I can't believe I even have to explain it.
Do you not see that the degree of difficulty is about a million times more?
And if they start blowing shit up it wont be hard to find and stop them.
Many will not attempt it. The ones that do now only have limited routes which can be monitored much more easily.
You can't be this fucking dense.
Just come out and say it. It's mean and a symbol of racism and you'll lose points with your friends if you admit that it will do somehting.
No. I think they are going to not go in the first place or go through a much more difficult, expensive, and less likely to be successful route.
They sure as fuck aren't gonna climb over it or blow it up.
Many would not attempt at all because of the difficulty/cost and then many others would not make it because of the difficulty.
The whole point of a wall is you cant just stroll through it!
Not to mention all these poor miserable fuckers in South/Central America that only hear about stuff second hand and get duped by the coyotes would definitely hear about a big ass wall and the extra difficulty.
So not only is it effective in general, it is a major deterrent too.
Thanks for the laugh.
I'm saying that most of what they hear comes from shady people who are trying to get their money and probably tell them how easy it is and how great it'll be.
So when they hear from legit sources that the US said fuck you latin american cunts it'll be a deterrent.
You have to be kidding
