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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,391 Standard Supporter

    Houston sucks. Mike D’Antoni is a regular season coach.

    George Karl and Brad Stevens agree
    George Karl is a good example. Stevens gets more time.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    Houston sucks. Mike D’Antoni is a regular season coach.

    What this playoff is really driving home to me is that this direction of "3 and D" players is too easy to exploit as there are few that are able to be multi-dimensional offensively and strong enough defensively. With Cleveland, it's too easy to exploit guys like Korver defensively. With Houston, the defenders like Tucker and Mbah a Moute are not good enough offensively to not allow a good team to be able to fall off of him effectively.
    Korver is not a 3 and D player
    He’s a 3 and no D player ... missing my point if that is what you are focusing in on
    You're missing the point if you're using Korver as any kind of data point about the 3 and D movement. He's not part of it.
    It’s more about specialization in my mind and having limited focal points offensively.

    Bruce Bowen to me was an original example. Great D and made himself into a passable offensive player.

    A guy like Korver swings the other way as a great shooter that in an ideal world you hide in defense.

    The unicorn is the great shooter that is also a tremendous defender.

    In all examples, these players are limited offensively in what they do well versus what a good defense forces them into.
    I don’t understand the point of this post. Teams want 3 and D wings because those are the most important skills. If you can’t shoot you screw up spacing. If you can’t defend your defense is comprised. Wings that can do both and create offensively are all stars. I don’t know how you think teams are going to just go get more of those.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,525 Founders Club

    Houston sucks. Mike D’Antoni is a regular season coach.

    George Karl and Brad Stevens agree
    George Karl is a good example. Stevens gets more time.
    He lost to a higher seed his first trip but it was Atlanta!

    Lost to higher seeded Cleveland his second year

    Lost to Cleveland as the Number One Seed last year in 5 games


    Now playing Cleveland as a higher seed leading 1-0 after a crisp 30 point win and his first two series wins earlier this year.

    He needs to make the Finals. Then I can finally root for the Warriors
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    Offense is about creating opportunities for yourself and your teammates.

    Shooting spaces the floor and in theory makes it easier for penetration.

    Guys that can shoot but can’t create are dependent on others for offense.

    If the creators in that system can’t create or more importantly if defenses don’t help to the point of creating opportunities for dependent shooters, then the offense really bogs down.

    You don’t need to have all stars. Shooting is obviously valuable. But there are other offensive skills as well.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,525 Founders Club

    Houston sucks. Mike D’Antoni is a regular season coach.

    George Karl and Brad Stevens agree
    George Karl is a good example. Stevens gets more time.
    He lost to a higher seed his first trip but it was Atlanta!

    Lost to higher seeded Cleveland his second year

    Lost to Cleveland as the Number One Seed last year in 5 games


    Now playing Cleveland as a higher seed leading 1-0 after a crisp 30 point win and his first two series wins earlier this year.

    He needs to make the Finals. Then I can finally root for the Warriors
    You’re taking the LeBron fanboy act a little far.
    I'm talking about Brad Stevens. Did not mention Lebron
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Well if Rohan Nadkarni says no I take it back.

    I did pick them to win the series after all. I think they're the better team. They're not the better roster though.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    Houston sucks. Mike D’Antoni is a regular season coach.

    What this playoff is really driving home to me is that this direction of "3 and D" players is too easy to exploit as there are few that are able to be multi-dimensional offensively and strong enough defensively. With Cleveland, it's too easy to exploit guys like Korver defensively. With Houston, the defenders like Tucker and Mbah a Moute are not good enough offensively to not allow a good team to be able to fall off of him effectively.
    Korver is not a 3 and D player
    He’s a 3 and no D player ... missing my point if that is what you are focusing in on
    You're missing the point if you're using Korver as any kind of data point about the 3 and D movement. He's not part of it.
    It’s more about specialization in my mind and having limited focal points offensively.

    Bruce Bowen to me was an original example. Great D and made himself into a passable offensive player.

    A guy like Korver swings the other way as a great shooter that in an ideal world you hide in defense.

    The unicorn is the great shooter that is also a tremendous defender.

    In all examples, these players are limited offensively in what they do well versus what a good defense forces them into.
    So you don't understand 3 and D. Got it.