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  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,285 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    This is precisely why I will never move back to Seattle. It's like all the bad parts of CA, but without any of the good weather or hot chicks.


  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,285 Founders Club

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    Somebody is gonna have to explain this 'half mile to the beach' thing to the Throbber.

    The Pacific is fucking cold. It's not like the Caribbean or the Gulf bath water warm with all-you-can-drink day-resorts everywhere.

    And when you do go to 'the beach', you with like 12 million other Mexicans Angelinos.

    Just don't get the attraction. Would much rather be near a ski resort in the winter and some boating in the summer. But 70 degrees year round is nice. No question.

    Completely agree except I don't get the ski resort thing, well except for maybe the bar with a fireplace in the ski resort thing. Skiing is kind of fun, but got tired of Stevens and Snoqualmie as a kid. Cold water blows, but so does cold weather IMHO. Sunshine and a white sandy beach on a shore with bath warm water, laced with scantily clad women who actually give a shit about how they look, lined with huts filled with ice cold beer and cocktails that could put a first avenue bum down for a week are a whole lot more appealing.
  • phineasphineas Member Posts: 4,732
    What an entitled, privileged thread.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,358 Founders Club
    When you're right, you're right.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,028

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    Somebody is gonna have to explain this 'half mile to the beach' thing to the Throbber.

    The Pacific is fucking cold. It's not like the Caribbean or the Gulf bath water warm with all-you-can-drink day-resorts everywhere.

    And when you do go to 'the beach', you with like 12 million other Mexicans Angelinos.

    Just don't get the attraction. Would much rather be near a ski resort in the winter and some boating in the summer. But 70 degrees year round is nice. No question.

    Completely agree except I don't get the ski resort thing, well except for maybe the bar with a fireplace in the ski resort thing. Skiing is kind of fun, but got tired of Stevens and Snoqualmie as a kid. Cold water blows, but so does cold weather IMHO. Sunshine and a white sandy beach on a shore with bath warm water, laced with scantily clad women who actually give a shit about how they look, lined with huts filled with ice cold beer and cocktails that could put a first avenue bum down for a week are a whole lot more appealing.
    Snow is for visiting, not living in
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,033 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    Somebody is gonna have to explain this 'half mile to the beach' thing to the Throbber.

    The Pacific is fucking cold. It's not like the Caribbean or the Gulf bath water warm with all-you-can-drink day-resorts everywhere.

    And when you do go to 'the beach', you with like 12 million other Mexicans Angelinos.

    Just don't get the attraction. Would much rather be near a ski resort in the winter and some boating in the summer. But 70 degrees year round is nice. No question.

    Completely agree except I don't get the ski resort thing, well except for maybe the bar with a fireplace in the ski resort thing. Skiing is kind of fun, but got tired of Stevens and Snoqualmie as a kid. Cold water blows, but so does cold weather IMHO. Sunshine and a white sandy beach on a shore with bath warm water, laced with scantily clad women who actually give a shit about how they look, lined with huts filled with ice cold beer and cocktails that could put a first avenue bum down for a week are a whole lot more appealing.
    Snow is for visiting, not living in
    That's really fucking hurtful.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,028

    BearsWiin said:

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    Somebody is gonna have to explain this 'half mile to the beach' thing to the Throbber.

    The Pacific is fucking cold. It's not like the Caribbean or the Gulf bath water warm with all-you-can-drink day-resorts everywhere.

    And when you do go to 'the beach', you with like 12 million other Mexicans Angelinos.

    Just don't get the attraction. Would much rather be near a ski resort in the winter and some boating in the summer. But 70 degrees year round is nice. No question.

    Completely agree except I don't get the ski resort thing, well except for maybe the bar with a fireplace in the ski resort thing. Skiing is kind of fun, but got tired of Stevens and Snoqualmie as a kid. Cold water blows, but so does cold weather IMHO. Sunshine and a white sandy beach on a shore with bath warm water, laced with scantily clad women who actually give a shit about how they look, lined with huts filled with ice cold beer and cocktails that could put a first avenue bum down for a week are a whole lot more appealing.
    Snow is for visiting, not living in
    That's really fucking hurtful.
    Suck it, bitch
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,033 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    Somebody is gonna have to explain this 'half mile to the beach' thing to the Throbber.

    The Pacific is fucking cold. It's not like the Caribbean or the Gulf bath water warm with all-you-can-drink day-resorts everywhere.

    And when you do go to 'the beach', you with like 12 million other Mexicans Angelinos.

    Just don't get the attraction. Would much rather be near a ski resort in the winter and some boating in the summer. But 70 degrees year round is nice. No question.

    Completely agree except I don't get the ski resort thing, well except for maybe the bar with a fireplace in the ski resort thing. Skiing is kind of fun, but got tired of Stevens and Snoqualmie as a kid. Cold water blows, but so does cold weather IMHO. Sunshine and a white sandy beach on a shore with bath warm water, laced with scantily clad women who actually give a shit about how they look, lined with huts filled with ice cold beer and cocktails that could put a first avenue bum down for a week are a whole lot more appealing.
    Snow is for visiting, not living in
    That's really fucking hurtful.
    Suck it, bitch
    Fucking lightweights.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,849
    BearsWiin said:

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    Somebody is gonna have to explain this 'half mile to the beach' thing to the Throbber.

    The Pacific is fucking cold. It's not like the Caribbean or the Gulf bath water warm with all-you-can-drink day-resorts everywhere.

    And when you do go to 'the beach', you with like 12 million other Mexicans Angelinos.

    Just don't get the attraction. Would much rather be near a ski resort in the winter and some boating in the summer. But 70 degrees year round is nice. No question.

    My beach is 340 miles NNW of LA. We get idiot tourists from Fresno, not Angelinos. I don't get in the water, but my kids boogieboard regularly, and we know many families that surf, paddleboard, and kayak. All it takes is a wetsuit. Wife and I take the dogs down for a 2-mile walk once or twice a week, to gain some perspective. You can't put a pricetag on perspective.


    Looks just like the Oregon Coast except 20 degrees warmer. Except in October and sometimes November. By far the best times to go to the OC as you can get 70 degree days . Although NYE weekend was pure bliss. I live a few miles from the beach though. And the water is actually colder in the summer than the winter most years.

    Very few sink holes however.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,033 Founders Club

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    Somebody is gonna have to explain this 'half mile to the beach' thing to the Throbber.

    The Pacific is fucking cold. It's not like the Caribbean or the Gulf bath water warm with all-you-can-drink day-resorts everywhere.

    And when you do go to 'the beach', you with like 12 million other Mexicans Angelinos.

    Just don't get the attraction. Would much rather be near a ski resort in the winter and some boating in the summer. But 70 degrees year round is nice. No question.

    Completely agree except I don't get the ski resort thing, well except for maybe the bar with a fireplace in the ski resort thing. Skiing is kind of fun, but got tired of Stevens and Snoqualmie as a kid. Cold water blows, but so does cold weather IMHO. Sunshine and a white sandy beach on a shore with bath warm water, laced with scantily clad women who actually give a shit about how they look, lined with huts filled with ice cold beer and cocktails that could put a first avenue bum down for a week are a whole lot more appealing.
    I think the key to enjoying skiing is proximity and avoiding crowds. When I lived in Utah I could duck out of work for a few hours on a powder day and have epic conditions. Here you're driving 90 to 100 minutes to get to the slopes and waiting in lines with a bunch of other assholes on the weekends. If I could live in place like Telluride, CO, I'd do it in a heart beat.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,861
    dflea said:

    Swaye said:

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    This is precisely why I will never move back to Seattle. It's like all the bad parts of CA, but without any of the good weather or hot chicks.
    Bing-Fucking-Go! I still don't understand the attraction of Seattle. A week in San Diego puts me in a C-Collar with all the hot women down there. Seattle? Never been a problem, never will be.
    Seattle's attraction is the outdoors. And the mild weather - never all that hot or cold. And it's green.

    I can't live there because I hate fucking people and the traffic and crowds in Seattle make me crazy. I live on the southern edge of the greater Puget Sound clusterfuck, so I'm able to jump out to the woods, mountains, coast and rivers pretty quick. I have to venture into the rat race for work so I pay a penalty of having to commute an hour each way, but the traffic is pretty light most of the way because I go the long way through the sticks.

    I couldn't deal in southern California. Everything would be cool for a while, but then I'd show up at work dressed in a Winnie the Pooh suit and packing heat. Nobody wins then.
    You have a lot of hate in your life.


    Although I've been in LA a lot the past couple months and I get the sentiment.

    https://youtu.be/1kj080QCjOg
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,861
    BearsWiin said:

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    Somebody is gonna have to explain this 'half mile to the beach' thing to the Throbber.

    The Pacific is fucking cold. It's not like the Caribbean or the Gulf bath water warm with all-you-can-drink day-resorts everywhere.

    And when you do go to 'the beach', you with like 12 million other Mexicans Angelinos.

    Just don't get the attraction. Would much rather be near a ski resort in the winter and some boating in the summer. But 70 degrees year round is nice. No question.

    Completely agree except I don't get the ski resort thing, well except for maybe the bar with a fireplace in the ski resort thing. Skiing is kind of fun, but got tired of Stevens and Snoqualmie as a kid. Cold water blows, but so does cold weather IMHO. Sunshine and a white sandy beach on a shore with bath warm water, laced with scantily clad women who actually give a shit about how they look, lined with huts filled with ice cold beer and cocktails that could put a first avenue bum down for a week are a whole lot more appealing.
    Snow is for visiting, not living in
    Very true.


    The snow bunnies in the lodge bar and then the hot tub later is just glorious.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,028

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    Somebody is gonna have to explain this 'half mile to the beach' thing to the Throbber.

    The Pacific is fucking cold. It's not like the Caribbean or the Gulf bath water warm with all-you-can-drink day-resorts everywhere.

    And when you do go to 'the beach', you with like 12 million other Mexicans Angelinos.

    Just don't get the attraction. Would much rather be near a ski resort in the winter and some boating in the summer. But 70 degrees year round is nice. No question.

    Completely agree except I don't get the ski resort thing, well except for maybe the bar with a fireplace in the ski resort thing. Skiing is kind of fun, but got tired of Stevens and Snoqualmie as a kid. Cold water blows, but so does cold weather IMHO. Sunshine and a white sandy beach on a shore with bath warm water, laced with scantily clad women who actually give a shit about how they look, lined with huts filled with ice cold beer and cocktails that could put a first avenue bum down for a week are a whole lot more appealing.
    I think the key to enjoying skiing is proximity and avoiding crowds. When I lived in Utah I could duck out of work for a few hours on a powder day and have epic conditions. Here you're driving 90 to 100 minutes to get to the slopes and waiting in lines with a bunch of other assholes on the weekends. If I could live in place like Telluride, CO, I'd do it in a heart beat.
    Every Wednesday my wife's senior engineer ducks out for a long lunch and surfs Capitola's Pleasure Point at the end of 41st Avenue
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,000
    Agree completely about the Pacific for swimming, unless you are WAY south of Cali. Caribbean > US pacific coast (and Mejico for that matter) for swimming. Both nice to look at.

    California is otherwise FUCKING AWESOME if you have the dough to be there (Sledog, for example, shouldn't try).

    There is a fucking reason why Cali is full of people. It's not an accident folks.

    If I had my druthers, I'd be in Santa Barbara or Laguna. Fuck you if you don't agree.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,033 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    Somebody is gonna have to explain this 'half mile to the beach' thing to the Throbber.

    The Pacific is fucking cold. It's not like the Caribbean or the Gulf bath water warm with all-you-can-drink day-resorts everywhere.

    And when you do go to 'the beach', you with like 12 million other Mexicans Angelinos.

    Just don't get the attraction. Would much rather be near a ski resort in the winter and some boating in the summer. But 70 degrees year round is nice. No question.

    Completely agree except I don't get the ski resort thing, well except for maybe the bar with a fireplace in the ski resort thing. Skiing is kind of fun, but got tired of Stevens and Snoqualmie as a kid. Cold water blows, but so does cold weather IMHO. Sunshine and a white sandy beach on a shore with bath warm water, laced with scantily clad women who actually give a shit about how they look, lined with huts filled with ice cold beer and cocktails that could put a first avenue bum down for a week are a whole lot more appealing.
    I think the key to enjoying skiing is proximity and avoiding crowds. When I lived in Utah I could duck out of work for a few hours on a powder day and have epic conditions. Here you're driving 90 to 100 minutes to get to the slopes and waiting in lines with a bunch of other assholes on the weekends. If I could live in place like Telluride, CO, I'd do it in a heart beat.
    Every Wednesday my wife's senior engineer ducks out for a long lunch and surfs Capitola's Pleasure Point at the end of 41st Avenue
    If my wife had her druthers we'd be neighbors down there by the bay of Monterrey. Alas, her dream of living beachfront in California has not come to pass. Life ain't fair I suppose.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,033 Founders Club

    BearsWiin said:

    Being upper middle class in California is like being mid to lower-middle class most other places. I can afford to rent a decent place but I can't afford to buy one. The truly shitty part is that the state still tax me as though I was in that 95th percentile of income earners. The upside is that it's 70 degrees year round and I'm a half-mile from the beach.

    I'd move back to Seattle but it sounds like they are doing their best to transform that into an extension of the bay area.

    Somebody is gonna have to explain this 'half mile to the beach' thing to the Throbber.

    The Pacific is fucking cold. It's not like the Caribbean or the Gulf bath water warm with all-you-can-drink day-resorts everywhere.

    And when you do go to 'the beach', you with like 12 million other Mexicans Angelinos.

    Just don't get the attraction. Would much rather be near a ski resort in the winter and some boating in the summer. But 70 degrees year round is nice. No question.

    Completely agree except I don't get the ski resort thing, well except for maybe the bar with a fireplace in the ski resort thing. Skiing is kind of fun, but got tired of Stevens and Snoqualmie as a kid. Cold water blows, but so does cold weather IMHO. Sunshine and a white sandy beach on a shore with bath warm water, laced with scantily clad women who actually give a shit about how they look, lined with huts filled with ice cold beer and cocktails that could put a first avenue bum down for a week are a whole lot more appealing.
    I think the key to enjoying skiing is proximity and avoiding crowds. When I lived in Utah I could duck out of work for a few hours on a powder day and have epic conditions. Here you're driving 90 to 100 minutes to get to the slopes and waiting in lines with a bunch of other assholes on the weekends. If I could live in place like Telluride, CO, I'd do it in a heart beat.
    Every Wednesday my wife's senior engineer ducks out for a long lunch and surfs Capitola's Pleasure Point at the end of 41st Avenue
    If my wife had her druthers we'd be neighbors down there by the bay of Monterrey. Alas, her dream of living beachfront in California has not come to pass. Life ain't fair I suppose.
    Tell her nobody put a gun to her head and made her marry a row boat champion.

    No $$ in row boat. She should have used her athletic connections and married a hoops guy who could make it in the LEAGUE. Then she could live wherever in the fuck she wanted, and had an affair with row boat on the side.

    Her fault; not yours.
    Unfortunately, her type is tall, slow strategy, Viking dudes, so row boat champion or bust. And even though I am a pour with lousy math n' science skillz, I have all of the aforementioned traits in spades. If only I could only find a way to monetize my Cliff Clavin (hi @Swaye ) skillz I would be rich I tell ya.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,033 Founders Club

    Agree completely about the Pacific for swimming, unless you are WAY south of Cali. Caribbean > US pacific coast (and Mejico for that matter) for swimming. Both nice to look at.

    California is otherwise FUCKING AWESOME if you have the dough to be there (Sledog, for example, shouldn't try).

    There is a fucking reason why Cali is full of people. It's not an accident folks.

    If I had my druthers, I'd be in Santa Barbara or Laguna. Fuck you if you don't agree.

    Free Pub! I got married on that beach in Laguna, but only invited 34 guests do to being a pour.
  • BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 5,028

    Agree completely about the Pacific for swimming, unless you are WAY south of Cali. Caribbean > US pacific coast (and Mejico for that matter) for swimming. Both nice to look at.

    California is otherwise FUCKING AWESOME if you have the dough to be there (Sledog, for example, shouldn't try).

    There is a fucking reason why Cali is full of people. It's not an accident folks.

    If I had my druthers, I'd be in Santa Barbara or Laguna. Fuck you if you don't agree.

    Free Pub! I got married on that beach in Laguna, but only invited 34 guests do to being a pour.
    Wrong Laguna I know, but the wife is doing a small project with the folks at Laguna Seca Raceway. Remodeling the Newman Building so the rich folk have more shitters when they hold their gala events there.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,033 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    Agree completely about the Pacific for swimming, unless you are WAY south of Cali. Caribbean > US pacific coast (and Mejico for that matter) for swimming. Both nice to look at.

    California is otherwise FUCKING AWESOME if you have the dough to be there (Sledog, for example, shouldn't try).

    There is a fucking reason why Cali is full of people. It's not an accident folks.

    If I had my druthers, I'd be in Santa Barbara or Laguna. Fuck you if you don't agree.

    Free Pub! I got married on that beach in Laguna, but only invited 34 guests do to being a pour.
    Wrong Laguna I know, but the wife is doing a small project with the folks at Laguna Seca Raceway. Remodeling the Newman Building so the rich folk have more shitters when they hold their gala events there.
    Ain't no Altamont Raceway but looks cool.
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