Abortion

creepycoug

Since the Tug is a little slow today:

Murder? How so? Ok in cases of rape/incest?

Also, if you think so, what are you doing here? Why are you not down at the clinics exercising your second amendment rights to bear arms and interfere in what amounts to murder? Isn't it the moral equivalent of standing by while a day care center down the street practices youth-in-asia?

Genuinely (not really) curious what you fuck faces think about this.

PS: American private enterprise can build highways you dumb fucks.

YellowSnow

I'm hearing the Reverend Graham will lie in honor in the Capital Rotunda. Paul Ryan just announced this. Just what I'm hearing so don't twist.

RaceBannon

We are a nation of laws

dflea

Always been a fan.

RaceBannon

I'm more into retroactive abortions myself but to each his own

2001400ex

Let's just defund planned Parenthood since they sell dead babies and shit.

RaceBannon

2001400ex said:

Let's just defund planned Parenthood since they sell dead babies and shit.

Hence my position

dnc

creepycoug said:

Since the Tug is a little slow today:

Murder? Yes How so? Ends the life of a human. Having sat in on my wife's sonograms, I can't imagine someone ending those little lives. Having had many friends and family members who have dealt with miscarriages (and the stillbirth of a nephew), I can tell you those were deaths of real lives to those parents.

This is a chinteresting piece on how modern scientific technology is boosting the arguments against abortion.

Ok in cases of rape/incest? Not sure. Hard to justify. Also hard to tell someone who's been violated that they have to pay the price for nine more months for something they haven't done. If it was my wife/daughter I'd probably tell them it best to still have the baby if they can find the courage. I wouldn't campaign for it to be illegal in those cases though. And I believe it's absolutely justifiable to abort a baby to save the mother's life, though you didn't bring that up.

Also, if you think so, what are you doing here? Why are you not down at the clinics exercising your second amendment rights to bear arms and interfere in what amounts to murder? Isn't it the moral equivalent of standing by while a day care center down the street practices youth-in-asia?

This is a chinteresting argument. Usually I and others like me get told we care too damn much about abortion. You're saying we don't care enough. You may be right. Personally I care about it a lot. I support pro life groups, especially those who promote the womb to tomb model. I advocate for adoption. I have had many conversations with people of all types about my reasoning on abortion. I'd say it's my largest political concern.

That one issue still wasn't big enough to get me to vote for Donald Trump though.

Genuinely (not really) curious what you fuck faces think about this.

PS: American private enterprise can build highways you dumb fucks.

"I don't get it"

2001400ex

dnc said:

creepycoug said:

Since the Tug is a little slow today:

Murder? Yes How so? Ends the life of a human. Having sat in on my wife's sonograms, I can't imagine someone ending those little lives. Having had many friends and family members who have dealt with miscarriages (and the stillbirth of a nephew), I can tell you those were deaths of real lives to those parents.

This is a chinteresting piece on how modern scientific technology is boosting the arguments against abortion.

Ok in cases of rape/incest? Not sure. Hard to justify. Also hard to tell someone who's been violated that they have to pay the price for nine more months for something they haven't done. If it was my wife/daughter I'd probably tell them it best to still have the baby if they can find the courage. I wouldn't campaign for it to be illegal in those cases though. And I believe it's absolutely justifiable to abort a baby to save the mother's life, though you didn't bring that up.

Also, if you think so, what are you doing here? Why are you not down at the clinics exercising your second amendment rights to bear arms and interfere in what amounts to murder? Isn't it the moral equivalent of standing by while a day care center down the street practices youth-in-asia?

This is a chinteresting argument. Usually I and others like me get told we care too damn much about abortion. You're saying we don't care enough. You may be right. Personally I care about it a lot. I support pro life groups, especially those who promote the womb to tomb model. I advocate for adoption. I have had many conversations with people of all types about my reasoning on abortion. I'd say it's my largest political concern.

That one issue still wasn't big enough to get me to vote for Donald Trump though.

Genuinely (not really) curious what you fuck faces think about this.

PS: American private enterprise can build highways you dumb fucks.

"I don't get it"

You do know that once past the age of viability, that it's federally illegal to have an abortion, right?

Not saying I agree with abortion. But there's a common perception that you can have abortions at any time and that's not true.

dnc

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

creepycoug said:

Since the Tug is a little slow today:

Murder? Yes How so? Ends the life of a human. Having sat in on my wife's sonograms, I can't imagine someone ending those little lives. Having had many friends and family members who have dealt with miscarriages (and the stillbirth of a nephew), I can tell you those were deaths of real lives to those parents.

This is a chinteresting piece on how modern scientific technology is boosting the arguments against abortion.

Ok in cases of rape/incest? Not sure. Hard to justify. Also hard to tell someone who's been violated that they have to pay the price for nine more months for something they haven't done. If it was my wife/daughter I'd probably tell them it best to still have the baby if they can find the courage. I wouldn't campaign for it to be illegal in those cases though. And I believe it's absolutely justifiable to abort a baby to save the mother's life, though you didn't bring that up.

Also, if you think so, what are you doing here? Why are you not down at the clinics exercising your second amendment rights to bear arms and interfere in what amounts to murder? Isn't it the moral equivalent of standing by while a day care center down the street practices youth-in-asia?

This is a chinteresting argument. Usually I and others like me get told we care too damn much about abortion. You're saying we don't care enough. You may be right. Personally I care about it a lot. I support pro life groups, especially those who promote the womb to tomb model. I advocate for adoption. I have had many conversations with people of all types about my reasoning on abortion. I'd say it's my largest political concern.

That one issue still wasn't big enough to get me to vote for Donald Trump though.

Genuinely (not really) curious what you fuck faces think about this.

PS: American private enterprise can build highways you dumb fucks.

"I don't get it"

You do know that once past the age of viability, that it's federally illegal to have an abortion, right?

Not saying I agree with abortion. But there's a common perception that you can have abortions at any time and that's not true.

What does this have to do with anything I said?

Swaye

Without abortion we'd have more losers than we already have.

RaceBannon

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

creepycoug said:

Since the Tug is a little slow today:

Murder? Yes How so? Ends the life of a human. Having sat in on my wife's sonograms, I can't imagine someone ending those little lives. Having had many friends and family members who have dealt with miscarriages (and the stillbirth of a nephew), I can tell you those were deaths of real lives to those parents.

This is a chinteresting piece on how modern scientific technology is boosting the arguments against abortion.

Ok in cases of rape/incest? Not sure. Hard to justify. Also hard to tell someone who's been violated that they have to pay the price for nine more months for something they haven't done. If it was my wife/daughter I'd probably tell them it best to still have the baby if they can find the courage. I wouldn't campaign for it to be illegal in those cases though. And I believe it's absolutely justifiable to abort a baby to save the mother's life, though you didn't bring that up.

Also, if you think so, what are you doing here? Why are you not down at the clinics exercising your second amendment rights to bear arms and interfere in what amounts to murder? Isn't it the moral equivalent of standing by while a day care center down the street practices youth-in-asia?

This is a chinteresting argument. Usually I and others like me get told we care too damn much about abortion. You're saying we don't care enough. You may be right. Personally I care about it a lot. I support pro life groups, especially those who promote the womb to tomb model. I advocate for adoption. I have had many conversations with people of all types about my reasoning on abortion. I'd say it's my largest political concern.

That one issue still wasn't big enough to get me to vote for Donald Trump though.

Genuinely (not really) curious what you fuck faces think about this.

PS: American private enterprise can build highways you dumb fucks.

"I don't get it"

You do know that once past the age of viability, that it's federally illegal to have an abortion, right?

Not saying I agree with abortion. But there's a common perception that you can have abortions at any time and that's not true.

What does this have to do with anything I said?

Apparently Hillary thought it was important to add

dnc

Swaye said:

Without abortion we'd have more losers than we already have.

This is undoubtedly true.

But enough about Hondo and Sledog's kids.

dnc

Swaye said:

Without abortion we'd have more losers than we already have.

Nothing says "poor womb environment" like a vacuum to the face.

Why do you hate fast strategy athletes?

Fire_Marshall_Bill

It should never happen after 20 weeks unless there's a valid medical reason for it.

That said, there were some right wingnuts who used to protest at a clinic about a mile from my crib. Idiots. Get a life. I also don't care for all the slutbags with VD who get free ones at PP, but I suppose it beats more products of single moms many of whom are a drain on society.

Also, overblown intentionally divisive issue, and people who vote exclusively or mostly on it are morons

pawz

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

creepycoug said:

Since the Tug is a little slow today:

Murder? Yes How so? Ends the life of a human. Having sat in on my wife's sonograms, I can't imagine someone ending those little lives. Having had many friends and family members who have dealt with miscarriages (and the stillbirth of a nephew), I can tell you those were deaths of real lives to those parents.

This is a chinteresting piece on how modern scientific technology is boosting the arguments against abortion.

Ok in cases of rape/incest? Not sure. Hard to justify. Also hard to tell someone who's been violated that they have to pay the price for nine more months for something they haven't done. If it was my wife/daughter I'd probably tell them it best to still have the baby if they can find the courage. I wouldn't campaign for it to be illegal in those cases though. And I believe it's absolutely justifiable to abort a baby to save the mother's life, though you didn't bring that up.

Also, if you think so, what are you doing here? Why are you not down at the clinics exercising your second amendment rights to bear arms and interfere in what amounts to murder? Isn't it the moral equivalent of standing by while a day care center down the street practices youth-in-asia?

This is a chinteresting argument. Usually I and others like me get told we care too damn much about abortion. You're saying we don't care enough. You may be right. Personally I care about it a lot. I support pro life groups, especially those who promote the womb to tomb model. I advocate for adoption. I have had many conversations with people of all types about my reasoning on abortion. I'd say it's my largest political concern.

That one issue still wasn't big enough to get me to vote for Donald Trump though.

Genuinely (not really) curious what you fuck faces think about this.

PS: American private enterprise can build highways you dumb fucks.

"I don't get it"

You do know that once past the age of viability, that it's federally illegal to have an abortion, right?

Not saying I agree with abortion. But there's a common perception that you can have abortions at any time and that's not true.

What else does Hillary want us to know about what your mother should have done?

UWhuskytskeet

If you are against abortion you should be in favor of cheap and easily accessible birth control. If you support abstinence only education you are retarded.

Pitchfork51

If I don't want to pay for the kid then you should be forced to get an abortion.

YellowSnow

dnc said:

creepycoug said:

Since the Tug is a little slow today:

Murder? Yes How so? Ends the life of a human. Having sat in on my wife's sonograms, I can't imagine someone ending those little lives. Having had many friends and family members who have dealt with miscarriages (and the stillbirth of a nephew), I can tell you those were deaths of real lives to those parents.

This is a chinteresting piece on how modern scientific technology is boosting the arguments against abortion.

Ok in cases of rape/incest? Not sure. Hard to justify. Also hard to tell someone who's been violated that they have to pay the price for nine more months for something they haven't done. If it was my wife/daughter I'd probably tell them it best to still have the baby if they can find the courage. I wouldn't campaign for it to be illegal in those cases though. And I believe it's absolutely justifiable to abort a baby to save the mother's life, though you didn't bring that up.

Also, if you think so, what are you doing here? Why are you not down at the clinics exercising your second amendment rights to bear arms and interfere in what amounts to murder? Isn't it the moral equivalent of standing by while a day care center down the street practices youth-in-asia?

This is a chinteresting argument. Usually I and others like me get told we care too damn much about abortion. You're saying we don't care enough. You may be right. Personally I care about it a lot. I support pro life groups, especially those who promote the womb to tomb model. I advocate for adoption. I have had many conversations with people of all types about my reasoning on abortion. I'd say it's my largest political concern.

That one issue still wasn't big enough to get me to vote for Donald Trump though.

Genuinely (not really) curious what you fuck faces think about this.

PS: American private enterprise can build highways you dumb fucks.

"I don't get it"

Chris Hitchens used to say that at a certain point the fetus deserved a say in its right to live. As a practical matter I think it should be safe, rare and legal early on. But I think anything after 10-12 weeks is morally and ethically wrong unless Mom's health is danger or birth defects are probable.

I don't have a uterus but I married someone who does and have been to plenty of pre 12 week ultrasounds. It's a living being at that point which should have rights.

2001400ex

dnc said:

2001400ex said:

dnc said:

creepycoug said:

Since the Tug is a little slow today:

Murder? Yes How so? Ends the life of a human. Having sat in on my wife's sonograms, I can't imagine someone ending those little lives. Having had many friends and family members who have dealt with miscarriages (and the stillbirth of a nephew), I can tell you those were deaths of real lives to those parents.

This is a chinteresting piece on how modern scientific technology is boosting the arguments against abortion.

Ok in cases of rape/incest? Not sure. Hard to justify. Also hard to tell someone who's been violated that they have to pay the price for nine more months for something they haven't done. If it was my wife/daughter I'd probably tell them it best to still have the baby if they can find the courage. I wouldn't campaign for it to be illegal in those cases though. And I believe it's absolutely justifiable to abort a baby to save the mother's life, though you didn't bring that up.

Also, if you think so, what are you doing here? Why are you not down at the clinics exercising your second amendment rights to bear arms and interfere in what amounts to murder? Isn't it the moral equivalent of standing by while a day care center down the street practices youth-in-asia?

This is a chinteresting argument. Usually I and others like me get told we care too damn much about abortion. You're saying we don't care enough. You may be right. Personally I care about it a lot. I support pro life groups, especially those who promote the womb to tomb model. I advocate for adoption. I have had many conversations with people of all types about my reasoning on abortion. I'd say it's my largest political concern.

That one issue still wasn't big enough to get me to vote for Donald Trump though.

Genuinely (not really) curious what you fuck faces think about this.

PS: American private enterprise can build highways you dumb fucks.

"I don't get it"

You do know that once past the age of viability, that it's federally illegal to have an abortion, right?

Not saying I agree with abortion. But there's a common perception that you can have abortions at any time and that's not true.

What does this have to do with anything I said?

Just adding to the discussion when you are talking about sonograms and still births.

dnc

UWhuskytskeet said:

If you are against abortion you should be in favor of cheap and easily accessible birth control. If you support abstinence only education you are retarded.

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