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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    LebamDawg said:

    don't see how something like this can happen in a drug free and gun free zone. the kid probly didn't take his anti-depressants or he took too many...

    THIS is the issue. We bitch and moan about gun control - but, honestly, how many of these fucks have serious mental issues that we(?) have been shamed into pitying and handling with kid gloves?

    Some of these fucks needs lobotomized or institutionalized. I don't have the answer for who decides or how that happens - but extracting these poor tormented souls from the general populace certainly would decrease this kind of shit from happening.

    People forget that the Republicans made it easier for mentally ill people to get guns last year.
    They should be held accountable. That was a bullshit move.

    And then put the crazy fucks away.
    It's possible to actually do something about mental health and the proliferation of assault weapons here.

    It doesn't have to be one, the other, or neither.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,814
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    LebamDawg said:

    don't see how something like this can happen in a drug free and gun free zone. the kid probly didn't take his anti-depressants or he took too many...

    THIS is the issue. We bitch and moan about gun control - but, honestly, how many of these fucks have serious mental issues that we(?) have been shamed into pitying and handling with kid gloves?

    Some of these fucks needs lobotomized or institutionalized. I don't have the answer for who decides or how that happens - but extracting these poor tormented souls from the general populace certainly would decrease this kind of shit from happening.

    People forget that the Republicans made it easier for mentally ill people to get guns last year.
    Really old people on social security who have someone handle their financial affairs fit this kids profile? Or any other mass shooters profile? Obama made up this "rule" {not a law} and deprived many social security recipients and retired military of their constitutional rights without due process. HTH
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    UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,108
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    dflea said:

    dflea said:

    LebamDawg said:

    don't see how something like this can happen in a drug free and gun free zone. the kid probly didn't take his anti-depressants or he took too many...

    THIS is the issue. We bitch and moan about gun control - but, honestly, how many of these fucks have serious mental issues that we(?) have been shamed into pitying and handling with kid gloves?

    Some of these fucks needs lobotomized or institutionalized. I don't have the answer for who decides or how that happens - but extracting these poor tormented souls from the general populace certainly would decrease this kind of shit from happening.

    Not really a fan of people control any more than I'm a fan of gun control.

    It's not like one would be any easier or constitutionally sound than the other, either.
    But if we? were serious it has to be both. Content control too. A lot of things we aren't willing to give up. Its far easier to offer ts and ps or rail about gun control. Neither of which does much

    If you go back to before mass consumption of media we were a far less violent country.

    Aren't violent crime rates down these days?

    Stats are for losers

    Compared to when?
    Basically any year since 1970.



    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-1
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,952
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    Cougzz said:
    Prefer a Sig, anyway. But I love my 870.
    So apparently my 870 short barrel sucks at mass shootings. I guess a whacko with 7 or 8 in a tube and having to pump each time isn't as dangerous.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,741
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    Mass media and social media are absolutely a part of a complex problem that also includes mental health. That being said, civilians don't need access to high capacity, high caliber weapons. It's not going to take 20-30 rifle rounds to stop a home invasion.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    edited February 2018

    I'm AGAINST school shooting

    Now is not the time discuss school shootings.
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    GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
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    Should teach kids to manage their minds instead of the parakeet training that goes on right now.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,863
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    LebamDawg said:

    don't see how something like this can happen in a drug free and gun free zone. the kid probly didn't take his anti-depressants or he took too many...

    THIS is the issue. We bitch and moan about gun control - but, honestly, how many of these fucks have serious mental issues that we(?) have been shamed into pitying and handling with kid gloves?

    Some of these fucks needs lobotomized or institutionalized. I don't have the answer for who decides or how that happens - but extracting these poor tormented souls from the general populace certainly would decrease this kind of shit from happening.

    People forget that the Republicans made it easier for mentally ill people to get guns last year.
    They should be held accountable. That was a bullshit move.

    And then put the crazy fucks away.
    It's possible to actually do something about mental health and the proliferation of assault weapons here.

    It doesn't have to be one, the other, or neither.
    ABUNDANCE, MAZZAFOKKERS!
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    edited February 2018
    dflea said:

    pawz said:


    This would work, but it will cost money.

    So we won't do that.

    We have walls and parades to pay for.
    More like we have about 3 times the amount of high salaried school administrators than are needed, in each district, that we need to pay for. But you're close.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    LebamDawg said:

    don't see how something like this can happen in a drug free and gun free zone. the kid probly didn't take his anti-depressants or he took too many...

    THIS is the issue. We bitch and moan about gun control - but, honestly, how many of these fucks have serious mental issues that we(?) have been shamed into pitying and handling with kid gloves?

    Some of these fucks needs lobotomized or institutionalized. I don't have the answer for who decides or how that happens - but extracting these poor tormented souls from the general populace certainly would decrease this kind of shit from happening.

    Bingo. They already interviewed a bunch of students who were like “yea we totally saw him doing something like this”. Yet of course no one can really do anything until he actually kills someone.
    He made a fucking Youtube video saying that He was gonna do this.


    But yeah...It's just SHOCKING that the little psycho bastard shot up the HS that He was expelled from.

    Even Hondo could have seen this coming.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,863
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    salemcoog said:

    LebamDawg said:

    don't see how something like this can happen in a drug free and gun free zone. the kid probly didn't take his anti-depressants or he took too many...

    THIS is the issue. We bitch and moan about gun control - but, honestly, how many of these fucks have serious mental issues that we(?) have been shamed into pitying and handling with kid gloves?

    Some of these fucks needs lobotomized or institutionalized. I don't have the answer for who decides or how that happens - but extracting these poor tormented souls from the general populace certainly would decrease this kind of shit from happening.

    Bingo. They already interviewed a bunch of students who were like “yea we totally saw him doing something like this”. Yet of course no one can really do anything until he actually kills someone.
    He made a fucking Youtube video saying that He was gonna do this.


    But yeah...It's just SHOCKING that the little psycho bastard shot up the HS that He was expelled from.

    Even Hondo could have seen this coming.
    No love for @GrandpaSankey ?!?

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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    LebamDawg said:

    don't see how something like this can happen in a drug free and gun free zone. the kid probly didn't take his anti-depressants or he took too many...

    THIS is the issue. We bitch and moan about gun control - but, honestly, how many of these fucks have serious mental issues that we(?) have been shamed into pitying and handling with kid gloves?

    Some of these fucks needs lobotomized or institutionalized. I don't have the answer for who decides or how that happens - but extracting these poor tormented souls from the general populace certainly would decrease this kind of shit from happening.

    Bingo. They already interviewed a bunch of students who were like “yea we totally saw him doing something like this”. Yet of course no one can really do anything until he actually kills someone.
    In reality they could have. There was documentation of intent via Youtube video.

    And Just yesterday, a pyscho little shits Gramma from Washington turned him in due to his journal describing what he planned to do. He was arrested and is pending charges for attempted murder. We'll see if it sticks. But something CAN be done.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,800
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    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

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    pawz said:

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    dflea said:

    Eighteen school shootings this year.

    This country is a fucking clown show.

    Didn't anybody tell the shooter that's a GUN FREE ZONE ?!!1!
    There's Pawz using a school shooting to advance his political agenda. Nice work. Shill.
    I'm mocking the Left's pathetic solution to the problem. Maybe you should learn the difference.


    #aclockworkshill
    You support for more guns at schools was implied.
    And?



    The cowards going on these shooting sprees don't go where people will shoot back.

    Fucktard post of the day. Google is your friend.

    I'm not wasting any time on a wild goose-chase looking for your bullshit.


    This is common fucking sense. None of us are surprised you have such a difficult tim displaying any.



    #aclockworkshill


    Pawz hates facts.

    Everytown for Gun Safety found that among 133 mass shootings between January 2009 and July 2015, 70 percent took place in private homes while 13 percent took place in "gun-free zones," where carrying of concealed guns were prohibited. Another 17 percent took place in public areas where the carrying of firearms are allowed.

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/feb/21/richard-corcoran/do-most-mass-shootings-happen-gun-free-zones/
    Do you have a point? You accused me of having an agenda. Now you trot out an article with numbers lower than expected, proving its YOU with the agenda.

    Nazi's, Chinese communists, and the words other largest communist/socialist states went out of their way to disarm the populace. So the people couldn't fight back.

    As always, you are the company you keep.




    #aclockworkshill
    Who said anything about taking guns from anyone? Sure as fuck not me. Nice job projecting tho.

    So I'll get back to the subject. You said gun free zones are worthless and want to get rid of them. Because they actually increase shootings. I showed you evidence that shows your are fucktarded.

    That is all.
    You showed no such evidence. You're either delusional or a liar.

    Pick carefully.


    #aclockworkshill
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    Sledog said:

    There were warnings from the shooter himself. FBI was notified. They were probably too busy running wire taps to do anything.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/15/nikolas-cruz-school-shooter-comment-reported-to-fbi-months-ago-vlogger-says.html

    What no one ever mentions is that almost all of the school shooters were on antidepressants. Listen to the warning speech during the next commercial for one. The problem is a mental health issue more than anything else. All the students knew this kid was a nut job. The school knew it as well. Now we know the FBI was warned about him and yet he carried out his plans.

    The Israeli's in the 70's suffered numerous terrorist attacks at schools, school buses, field trips etc. They solved the problem. They armed some of the teachers. Terrorists didn't like their nice soft targets shooting back.

    The mass shooting stats up above are misleading as everyone has a different definition of mass shooting, school shooting etc. Anti gun groups even count anything near a school.

    I checked my guns this morning. They were all still where i left them. Hadn't killed anyone or left the premises. They are only as good, evil or crazy as the person using them.


    And for the Franny.

    Stop trying to shed light on the real problem here, which is mental health.


    It really detracts from Boobs and fleas simplistic blame it on Trump,Republicans and the mere existence of firearms.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    There were warnings from the shooter himself. FBI was notified. They were probably too busy running wire taps to do anything.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/15/nikolas-cruz-school-shooter-comment-reported-to-fbi-months-ago-vlogger-says.html

    What no one ever mentions is that almost all of the school shooters were on antidepressants. Listen to the warning speech during the next commercial for one. The problem is a mental health issue more than anything else. All the students knew this kid was a nut job. The school knew it as well. Now we know the FBI was warned about him and yet he carried out his plans.

    The Israeli's in the 70's suffered numerous terrorist attacks at schools, school buses, field trips etc. They solved the problem. They armed some of the teachers. Terrorists didn't like their nice soft targets shooting back.

    The mass shooting stats up above are misleading as everyone has a different definition of mass shooting, school shooting etc. Anti gun groups even count anything near a school.

    I checked my guns this morning. They were all still where i left them. Hadn't killed anyone or left the premises. They are only as good, evil or crazy as the person using them.


    And for the Franny.

    Stop trying to shed light on the real problem here, which is mental health.


    It really detracts from Boobs and fleas simplistic blame it on Trump,Republicans and the mere existence of firearms.
    Oh.

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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    There were warnings from the shooter himself. FBI was notified. They were probably too busy running wire taps to do anything.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/15/nikolas-cruz-school-shooter-comment-reported-to-fbi-months-ago-vlogger-says.html

    What no one ever mentions is that almost all of the school shooters were on antidepressants. Listen to the warning speech during the next commercial for one. The problem is a mental health issue more than anything else. All the students knew this kid was a nut job. The school knew it as well. Now we know the FBI was warned about him and yet he carried out his plans.

    The Israeli's in the 70's suffered numerous terrorist attacks at schools, school buses, field trips etc. They solved the problem. They armed some of the teachers. Terrorists didn't like their nice soft targets shooting back.

    The mass shooting stats up above are misleading as everyone has a different definition of mass shooting, school shooting etc. Anti gun groups even count anything near a school.

    I checked my guns this morning. They were all still where i left them. Hadn't killed anyone or left the premises. They are only as good, evil or crazy as the person using them.


    And for the Franny.

    Stop trying to shed light on the real problem here, which is mental health.


    It really detracts from Boobs and fleas simplistic blame it on Trump,Republicans and the mere existence of firearms.
    Oh.

    And your point???
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,752
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    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    Or they happen outside.

    Or at a sports event.

    But still.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,746
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    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    There were warnings from the shooter himself. FBI was notified. They were probably too busy running wire taps to do anything.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/15/nikolas-cruz-school-shooter-comment-reported-to-fbi-months-ago-vlogger-says.html

    What no one ever mentions is that almost all of the school shooters were on antidepressants. Listen to the warning speech during the next commercial for one. The problem is a mental health issue more than anything else. All the students knew this kid was a nut job. The school knew it as well. Now we know the FBI was warned about him and yet he carried out his plans.

    The Israeli's in the 70's suffered numerous terrorist attacks at schools, school buses, field trips etc. They solved the problem. They armed some of the teachers. Terrorists didn't like their nice soft targets shooting back.

    The mass shooting stats up above are misleading as everyone has a different definition of mass shooting, school shooting etc. Anti gun groups even count anything near a school.

    I checked my guns this morning. They were all still where i left them. Hadn't killed anyone or left the premises. They are only as good, evil or crazy as the person using them.


    And for the Franny.

    Stop trying to shed light on the real problem here, which is mental health.


    It really detracts from Boobs and fleas simplistic blame it on Trump,Republicans and the mere existence of firearms.
    Oh.

    And your point???
    Call me crazy, bro, but I think his point is that another bat shit crazy loon turns out to be affiliated with another bunch of bat shit crazy loons.

    It's a fun game. It's called identity politics. Axe the brown people and the illegals how it works. They'll splane it to you nice and good.
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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,741
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    I'd feel safer if a few teachers on campus were knowingly armed, or had access to guns in strategically located gun safes within the school. Radical? Who GAF. Cowards like this crazy little fucker thrive when they know there won't be anyone shooting back at them. Let it be known that some teachers are well-trained and armed, and most of these shootings don't happen.

    This is your ideal society?
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