Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around.
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around.
All this time I just thought Mississippi was a shithole cause the blicks.
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around.
All this time I just thought Mississippi was a shithole cause the blicks.
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around.
Liberal ruled states and cities are the most poverty ridden and violent places in the country. You might look some of that shit up before making stupid statements.
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around.
Liberal ruled states and cities are the most poverty ridden and violent places in the country. You might look some of that shit up before making stupid statements.
The northeast, west coast and mid-Atlantic. And your favorite place, California. What do they have in common?
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
Then let’s start the process of moving to a federalist system. What’s the point of these never-ending “my state is better than yours” arguments. Let’s just end it. Split up economically and socially. California is the fifth largest economy in the world. We dont need you and you’d prefer we leave. That’s what you want? Right?
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you?
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
Then let’s start the process of moving to a federalist system. What’s the point of these never-ending “my state is better than yours” arguments. Let’s just end it. Split up economically and socially. California is the fifth largest economy in the world. We dont need you and you’d prefer we leave. That’s what you want? Right?
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you?
But then everyone will want to get away from the DC too
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
It's almost as if you're not smart enough to make sense.
Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around.
Liberal ruled states and cities are the most poverty ridden and violent places in the country. You might look some of that shit up before making stupid statements.
The northeast, west coast and mid-Atlantic. And your favorite place, California. What do they have in common?
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
Then let’s start the process of moving to a federalist system. What’s the point of these never-ending “my state is better than yours” arguments. Let’s just end it. Split up economically and socially. California is the fifth largest economy in the world. We dont need you and you’d prefer we leave. That’s what you want? Right?
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you?
Go and fuck off. Provide your own defense. You'll be Mexifornia in 20 years, 'cause all you faggy libbies can't even hold a gun without pissing your pants.
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
To the uneducated. There was a standard amount based on your income to add if you lived in Washington to deduct for income tax. Plus they allowed you to deduct sales tax on large purchases. To "level the playing field" as you suggest.
So, what you're saying is Washington residents were capped by whatever the standard deduct for their taxable income but Cali residents weren't.
The sales tax deduction was a fraction of what state income tax payers were allowed to take as a deduction.
For someone at the $200K income range, 1 Exemption, the 'standard' sales tax deduction for 2017 was $1,886
And that's comparable to a Cali resident who could take the full boat deduction on their, let's say, 5% state income tax (actually way higher but we'll keep it simple) of around $10,000 plus?!?!
Maff sucks, I know. For the uneducated.
Nega, please.
Plus sales tax on large purchases. I think your $1,886 is low because mine was higher than that in 16. But I don't give enough shits to look it up.
So you're in favor of regressive sales taxes that also encourage the poor to go into debt buying things they don't need.
Yes. Someone's gotta buy the shit, and I pay enough in taxes. I don't need to help my brother kewg live out his golden years in comfort down in Salem any more than I already have.
Let me be clear: I want to keep what I earn in the FREE market place (real or pretend), and I want to share it with NOBODY. I don't care about other people's problems.
I'm a REAL conservative. Most of these bananas are union-loving protectionist brown shirt commies who want my stuff w/o having to work for it.
You left out "who have nothing to offer that anyone wants, so fail in the marketplace and must work for large employers or government to avoid starvation and death."
Two things: you bolded the wrong section; and no, I did not.
I stopped working for my retirement over 5 years ago my good freng. This is now for the kids ... so that come what may, they will have the means to educate my grandchildren properly and forever ensure that there be no Kewg in my line. That's pretty much all I have to care about.
As I said: I'm a real conservative. Present day enthusiasm for tax cuts and street fighters, while admirable, overlooks the compromises it has taken to get them. I'm a Reagan / Bush I republican. We don't like unions, we don't like barriers to the workings of free market economics and we like the freedom to win and live like it, even if at the expense of others.m We also fundamentally distrust the Russians because, well, you know. Missiles to the Persians is one thing. Getting in bed with the Red Scare is another. It's in their DNA.
If you can't get all that, then you're part of the new populism, and you will soon enough be dispatched. There's a McCarthy-esque storm a comin' honcho, and Red hunting season will soon be upon us. Find your hiding place punk. You can't have my stuff.
You've done pretty well for being a fucking hayseed cooger. Congrats on reaping the benefits of the greatest country there ever was. And congrats on putting your head down and getting it done.
Make America Great Again? Fuck that. America has always been great. The greatest.
It could be better, though. And not by pretending immigrants are the problem, or tariffs and isolationism are the solution. Those things are the marks of weaklings that can't compete. I don;t want to pay more for a fucking washing machine made in the USA unless I want to - and Whirlpool can fuck off if they think I should subsidize their operation. Free trade and cheap foreign labor may be a threat to a knucklehead that only knows how to put a control panel on a washing machine, but higher consumer prices are a threat to everybody. Make it cheapest, or make it good enough not to be cheapest, or get the fuck out. Trump must have a buddy at Whirlpool.
I also agree with you about the Russian thing, and I'm not talking about anything to do with the election. I'm talking about our president being a guy with deep business ties in Russia with people that would love nothing more than to see the US fail. Trump's love affair with Putin is bullshit. If Vlad Putin saying kind and flattering things about a US president doesn't give you pause, then your fucking head is in your ass. Maybe I watched Red Dawn a few too many times, but that shit makes me think the FISA court may have been right in having the FBI keep an eye on his ass.
Fuck. I got all buzzed up and then wasted my timne typing a bunch of Tequila-length bullshit that will only get read by a bunch of fucking donkeys. What a faggot.
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
Then let’s start the process of moving to a federalist system. What’s the point of these never-ending “my state is better than yours” arguments. Let’s just end it. Split up economically and socially. California is the fifth largest economy in the world. We dont need you and you’d prefer we leave. That’s what you want? Right?
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you?
You’re leaving out more than a few of the other constitutional requirements like interstate commerce, but that is a minor point.
I am looking forward to your upcoming sequal to “Industrial Society and Its Future” though...
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
Then let’s start the process of moving to a federalist system. What’s the point of these never-ending “my state is better than yours” arguments. Let’s just end it. Split up economically and socially. California is the fifth largest economy in the world. We dont need you and you’d prefer we leave. That’s what you want? Right?
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you?
Go and fuck off. Provide your own defense. You'll be Mexifornia in 20 years, 'cause all you faggy libbies can't even hold a gun without pissing your pants.
Sounds good. That works too. I am advocating for original constitutional federalism (i.e. Thomas Jefferson). The only one advocating for violence and civil war is you.
You sure no one here knows how to hold a gun? How long do you think a suburban King County trash-talking gun-slinger survives here?
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
Then let’s start the process of moving to a federalist system. What’s the point of these never-ending “my state is better than yours” arguments. Let’s just end it. Split up economically and socially. California is the fifth largest economy in the world. We dont need you and you’d prefer we leave. That’s what you want? Right?
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you?
Go and fuck off. Provide your own defense. You'll be Mexifornia in 20 years, 'cause all you faggy libbies can't even hold a gun without pissing your pants.
Sounds good. That works too. I am advocating for original constitutional federalism (i.e. Thomas Jefferson). The only one advocating for violence and civil war is you.
You sure no one here knows how to hold a gun? How long do you think a suburban King County trash-talking gun-slinger survives here?
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
Then let’s start the process of moving to a federalist system. What’s the point of these never-ending “my state is better than yours” arguments. Let’s just end it. Split up economically and socially. California is the fifth largest economy in the world. We dont need you and you’d prefer we leave. That’s what you want? Right?
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you?
You’re leaving out more than a few of the other constitutional requirements like interstate commerce, but that is a minor point.
I am looking forward to your upcoming sequal to “Industrial Society and Its Future” though...
Agree. Minor points.
I am reading Carey McWilliam’s “California: the Great Exception” right now. You should give it a read.
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
Then let’s start the process of moving to a federalist system. What’s the point of these never-ending “my state is better than yours” arguments. Let’s just end it. Split up economically and socially. California is the fifth largest economy in the world. We dont need you and you’d prefer we leave. That’s what you want? Right?
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you?
Go and fuck off. Provide your own defense. You'll be Mexifornia in 20 years, 'cause all you faggy libbies can't even hold a gun without pissing your pants.
Sounds good. That works too. I am advocating for original constitutional federalism (i.e. Thomas Jefferson). The only one advocating for violence and civil war is you.
You sure no one here knows how to hold a gun? How long do you think a suburban King County trash-talking gun-slinger survives here?
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
To the uneducated. There was a standard amount based on your income to add if you lived in Washington to deduct for income tax. Plus they allowed you to deduct sales tax on large purchases. To "level the playing field" as you suggest.
So, what you're saying is Washington residents were capped by whatever the standard deduct for their taxable income but Cali residents weren't.
The sales tax deduction was a fraction of what state income tax payers were allowed to take as a deduction.
For someone at the $200K income range, 1 Exemption, the 'standard' sales tax deduction for 2017 was $1,886
And that's comparable to a Cali resident who could take the full boat deduction on their, let's say, 5% state income tax (actually way higher but we'll keep it simple) of around $10,000 plus?!?!
Maff sucks, I know. For the uneducated.
Nega, please.
Plus sales tax on large purchases. I think your $1,886 is low because mine was higher than that in 16. But I don't give enough shits to look it up.
So you're in favor of regressive sales taxes that also encourage the poor to go into debt buying things they don't need.
Yes. Someone's gotta buy the shit, and I pay enough in taxes. I don't need to help my brother kewg live out his golden years in comfort down in Salem any more than I already have.
Let me be clear: I want to keep what I earn in the FREE market place (real or pretend), and I want to share it with NOBODY. I don't care about other people's problems.
I'm a REAL conservative. Most of these bananas are union-loving protectionist brown shirt commies who want my stuff w/o having to work for it.
You left out "who have nothing to offer that anyone wants, so fail in the marketplace and must work for large employers or government to avoid starvation and death."
Two things: you bolded the wrong section; and no, I did not.
I stopped working for my retirement over 5 years ago my good freng. This is now for the kids ... so that come what may, they will have the means to educate my grandchildren properly and forever ensure that there be no Kewg in my line. That's pretty much all I have to care about.
As I said: I'm a real conservative. Present day enthusiasm for tax cuts and street fighters, while admirable, overlooks the compromises it has taken to get them. I'm a Reagan / Bush I republican. We don't like unions, we don't like barriers to the workings of free market economics and we like the freedom to win and live like it, even if at the expense of others.m We also fundamentally distrust the Russians because, well, you know. Missiles to the Persians is one thing. Getting in bed with the Red Scare is another. It's in their DNA.
If you can't get all that, then you're part of the new populism, and you will soon enough be dispatched. There's a McCarthy-esque storm a comin' honcho, and Red hunting season will soon be upon us. Find your hiding place punk. You can't have my stuff.
You've done pretty well for being a fucking hayseed cooger. Congrats on reaping the benefits of the greatest country there ever was. And congrats on putting your head down and getting it done.
Make America Great Again? Fuck that. America has always been great. The greatest.
It could be better, though. And not by pretending immigrants are the problem, or tariffs and isolationism are the solution. Those things are the marks of weaklings that can't compete. I don;t want to pay more for a fucking washing machine made in the USA unless I want to - and Whirlpool can fuck off if they think I should subsidize their operation. Free trade and cheap foreign labor may be a threat to a knucklehead that only knows how to put a control panel on a washing machine, but higher consumer prices are a threat to everybody. Make it cheapest, or make it good enough not to be cheapest, or get the fuck out. Trump must have a buddy at Whirlpool.
I also agree with you about the Russian thing, and I'm not talking about anything to do with the election. I'm talking about our president being a guy with deep business ties in Russia with people that would love nothing more than to see the US fail. Trump's love affair with Putin is bullshit. If Vlad Putin saying kind and flattering things about a US president doesn't give you pause, then your fucking head is in your ass. Maybe I watched Red Dawn a few too many times, but that shit makes me think the FISA court may have been right in having the FBI keep an eye on his ass.
Fuck. I got all buzzed up and then wasted my timne typing a bunch of Tequila-length bullshit that will only get read by a bunch of fucking donkeys. What a faggot.
Fuck you guys - I'm going back to drinking.
This is really my poont. If I must pay into a charity pool, yeah, call me whatever you want, I'd rather pay into an albeit inefficiently managed pool to help those who truly can't help themselves. Not to subsidize industry so a bunch of people who can't adapt and find other work can keep working and making the same shit products at the cost of compromising my choices in the market.
We have, today, a truly Neo-Conservative, and they look a lot like the communist fucks on Peaky Blinders. Protectionism, fear of competition, fear of being challenged or anything new. Just deep down inside little fucking cowards afraid of change because they are laden with self-doubt about the ability of their gene pool to keep up.
It really doesn't matter what we write here, or what's going on in DC now, or what anyone thinks. All of it is inevitable. People by their nature move forward ... there are interim instances of going backwards, but it's temporary and overall a blip on the map of time.
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
You're a real piece of work sometimes. Go to California. Go to Connecticut. Go to Mass. Hell, come to Washington. Drive around. Talk to people. Buy something. Try and get a job somewhere.
Then go to, I don't know, Louisiana, Mississippi, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas and do the same thing.
Then come back here and tell me about your experiences. Tell me where you run into a more educated and sophisticated crowd. Tell me where there is more happening by way of economic activity, investment, new industry, more people pushing the limits of who things are done, better universities, high cost of living as a proxy for demand to be there, etc. etc. etc.
Every single state in the union, bar none, has corners of white trash and decay. Go to Bridgeport Connecticut, then drive a few minutes soutwest until you get to Westport and eventually Old Greenwich. There's a difference.
When I'm in Mississippi, and yes, I've had to go there for work reasons, it's just 36 hours of being depressed by my surroundings. There are few little gems here and there - Nachez is ok - but 99% of the state is shit hole after shit hole filled with backwards hillbillies and people who can't speak English (or any other language).
Texas is about the only place that has a lot of both.
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
You're a real piece of work sometimes. Go to California. Go to Connecticut. Go to Mass. Hell, come to Washington. Drive around. Talk to people. Buy something. Try and get a job somewhere.
Then go to, I don't know, Louisiana, Mississippi, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas and do the same thing.
Then come back here and tell me about your experiences. Tell me where you run into a more educated and sophisticated crowd. Tell me where there is more happening by way of economic activity, investment, new industry, more people pushing the limits of who things are done, better universities, high cost of living as a proxy for demand to be there, etc. etc. etc.
Every single state in the union, bar none, has corners of white trash and decay. Go to Bridgeport Connecticut, then drive a few minutes soutwest until you get to Westport and eventually Old Greenwich. There's a difference.
When I'm in Mississippi, and yes, I've had to go there for work reasons, it's just 36 hours of being depressed by my surroundings. There are few little gems here and there - Nachez is ok - but 99% of the state is shit hole after shit hole filled with backwards hillbillies and people who can't speak English (or any other language).
Texas is about the only place that has a lot of both.
Right. To help pay for large corporate tax cuts. They capped the state tax deduction at $10k. Meaning people who pay significantly more than that, will pay more in taxes on the plan. And most of those people are small business owners. Nice work!!
Why should someone who lives in the People's Republic of California have any greater ability to deduct state taxes than someone who lives in, like, Wyoming or Washington where there isn't any state income tax?
The $10K cap is more than a fair compromise.
Fuck off. State's rights buddy boy. Just like Scalia argued for years in his abortion case dissents. He never said once that it should be federally banned. He always positioned his argument on state's rights. Whether he was being disingenuous or not, I'll leave to you.
If the ability to use a hoover and a spoon relative to "sanctity of life" matters is merely a function of hitting the right state line, then surely the far less aggressive extension of governmental in personam jurisdiction to tax must be left to the states.
Why do you hate the federal republic man? Why? Why?
Let us build our loop holes and mind your own business. Please.
I'm sorry you hate maff too.
One word: states' rights.
So the federal government has more right California has less rights to one's income than a person in Montana.
Speak Engrish, man. Or use Excel.
Math isn't a state's rights issue. If you want to tax the fuck out of your state, go for it. But you shouldn't get credit for it at a higher tax benefit than a non-tax-the-fuck-out-state at the federal level.
Federal taxes are confiscatory, by definition.
Other than for defense, what if anything worthwhile does it pay for? Californians already pay a disproportionate share of the money to pay for the boondoggles you apparently support.
My state and local taxes pay for public, health, safety, roads, water and power.
Shut the wasteful, useless federal government down.
About half of the money to fix your roads and pay for your healthcare comes from the Feds. And when your state starts burning again, other states will have to bail your ass out...again.
But other than that... Spot on as always.
Where does the federal government get that money? Who pays most of it? CA doesn’t need federal charity. Why can’t you pay your own way?
Quit taking Federal Highway funds and then pop off.
Quit confiscating our tax dollars and you’ve got a deal.
The feds just cut the taxes on all the businesses in Kali by quite a bit. Now Kali is trying to take that money from the businesses! That damn state can never have enough tax money when your importing millions of illegals to feed, house, cloth, feed and provide lawyers to prevent their deportation. The dem controlled shithole will always spend it all.
Fuck You and your shithole federal government. You profess to not want us. Back it up, and let’s finalize terms of the separation.
No I said Kali is a shithole. Crazy lib shithole. No right to secede.
If it is such a shithole, you should want it to secede.
@Sledog wants California to LEAVE! And stay at the same time.
I want the batshit crazy liberals to leave! If they all migrate to the socialist paradise of their choice America would be far better off. They'll all starve or be murdered by their chosen government. It's a win win!
So you want California to be dumb and poor?
We already have that part of America. It's called Appalachia.
14th in collegiate degrees. West Virginia was dead last.
Thanks for proving my point.
That’s been the most useless measure since University of Phoenix and change started up.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
You're a real piece of work sometimes. Go to California. Go to Connecticut. Go to Mass. Hell, come to Washington. Drive around. Talk to people. Buy something. Try and get a job somewhere.
Then go to, I don't know, Louisiana, Mississippi, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas and do the same thing.
Then come back here and tell me about your experiences. Tell me where you run into a more educated and sophisticated crowd. Tell me where there is more happening by way of economic activity, investment, new industry, more people pushing the limits of who things are done, better universities, high cost of living as a proxy for demand to be there, etc. etc. etc.
Every single state in the union, bar none, has corners of white trash and decay. Go to Bridgeport Connecticut, then drive a few minutes soutwest until you get to Westport and eventually Old Greenwich. There's a difference.
When I'm in Mississippi, and yes, I've had to go there for work reasons, it's just 36 hours of being depressed by my surroundings. There are few little gems here and there - Nachez is ok - but 99% of the state is shit hole after shit hole filled with backwards hillbillies and people who can't speak English (or any other language).
Texas is about the only place that has a lot of both.
Hot girls that are dtf is my only requirement
You are hitting on something. There are nice looking girls pretty much everywhere. There is a version of the good life, for some, involving moving to a poverty patch and playing Lord of the Manor. If you have a little money in these communities, you won't work hard to catch T&A. It'll come find you. I know people who've had to move to places they didn't like as they rode the corporate escalator ... and some of them do speak fondly of living in back-asswards places on that one score. Still, most of them wanted out eventually.
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Bottom line: places where people like you are comfortable are poor and just have more bad shit. Poverty rates, crime rates, incest rates, bestiality rates, illiteracy rates, welfare rates ... I could go on.
There's a reason Mississippi is the shit hole it is. There are more you's there than me.
As it relates to California, while it has its problems, you should at least have the basics: in EU terms, Cali is Germany, and where you live is Greece. One needs the other, but not the other way around.
It’s just funny to see all these Cali folks scream about other parts of the country being poor and uneducated when California has both the highest poverty rate and lowest percentage of the population with even high school diplomas.
Simple facts...
There’s momentum here for that. Why don’t you back it up? Mutual defense and common currency. Nothing more. @Sledog is too big a pussy to take the offer. How big of a pussy are you?
But then everyone will want to get away from the DC too
Make America Great Again? Fuck that. America has always been great. The greatest.
It could be better, though. And not by pretending immigrants are the problem, or tariffs and isolationism are the solution. Those things are the marks of weaklings that can't compete. I don;t want to pay more for a fucking washing machine made in the USA unless I want to - and Whirlpool can fuck off if they think I should subsidize their operation. Free trade and cheap foreign labor may be a threat to a knucklehead that only knows how to put a control panel on a washing machine, but higher consumer prices are a threat to everybody. Make it cheapest, or make it good enough not to be cheapest, or get the fuck out. Trump must have a buddy at Whirlpool.
I also agree with you about the Russian thing, and I'm not talking about anything to do with the election. I'm talking about our president being a guy with deep business ties in Russia with people that would love nothing more than to see the US fail. Trump's love affair with Putin is bullshit. If Vlad Putin saying kind and flattering things about a US president doesn't give you pause, then your fucking head is in your ass. Maybe I watched Red Dawn a few too many times, but that shit makes me think the FISA court may have been right in having the FBI keep an eye on his ass.
Fuck. I got all buzzed up and then wasted my timne typing a bunch of Tequila-length bullshit that will only get read by a bunch of fucking donkeys. What a faggot.
Fuck you guys - I'm going back to drinking.
I am looking forward to your upcoming sequal to “Industrial Society and Its Future” though...
I am advocating for original constitutional federalism (i.e. Thomas Jefferson). The only one advocating for violence and civil war is you.
You sure no one here knows how to hold a gun? How long do you think a suburban King County trash-talking gun-slinger survives here?
Yes. Quite.
I am reading Carey McWilliam’s “California: the Great Exception” right now. You should give it a read.
We have, today, a truly Neo-Conservative, and they look a lot like the communist fucks on Peaky Blinders. Protectionism, fear of competition, fear of being challenged or anything new. Just deep down inside little fucking cowards afraid of change because they are laden with self-doubt about the ability of their gene pool to keep up.
It really doesn't matter what we write here, or what's going on in DC now, or what anyone thinks. All of it is inevitable. People by their nature move forward ... there are interim instances of going backwards, but it's temporary and overall a blip on the map of time.
Then go to, I don't know, Louisiana, Mississippi, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas and do the same thing.
Then come back here and tell me about your experiences. Tell me where you run into a more educated and sophisticated crowd. Tell me where there is more happening by way of economic activity, investment, new industry, more people pushing the limits of who things are done, better universities, high cost of living as a proxy for demand to be there, etc. etc. etc.
Every single state in the union, bar none, has corners of white trash and decay. Go to Bridgeport Connecticut, then drive a few minutes soutwest until you get to Westport and eventually Old Greenwich. There's a difference.
When I'm in Mississippi, and yes, I've had to go there for work reasons, it's just 36 hours of being depressed by my surroundings. There are few little gems here and there - Nachez is ok - but 99% of the state is shit hole after shit hole filled with backwards hillbillies and people who can't speak English (or any other language).
Texas is about the only place that has a lot of both.