There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on
The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented
CHRIST
Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.
How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?
Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.
Exxon, Shell, BP.
Anymore sound Boomer logic?
I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.
Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.
Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?
The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.
Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
And builders don't need incentives to make money. That's hondo fucking stupid
Congrats
He didn't say builders needed incentives to make money. Read his quote again.
I didn't say he did. Incentives to put people in little boxes to ride the bus to their little job aren't needed. Builders build what people want. They make money without your fucking stupid incentives to build what people don't want.
I didn't think I needed to spell it out. I was wrong
You are so cute when moving the goalposts back tracking your FS comment.
I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed
I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will
its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue
Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it
That's why I defend them here.
I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
You can buy a McMansion in Houston for 400K
Even in Cali you can get a nice house at your income levels.
When we bought our house the interest rate was double digits
What has changed is the banking laws after the crash. 20% down as a hard number is hard to come up with unless you bank most of your income for a year or two
Fuck McMansions. I would live in Houston if there were any tech jobs there worth a shit.
The Bay Area is a hard one but not impossible at your level. Probably will need some kind of commute
Or work from home.
Even in the early 1990's when I was working for the studios, most guys I worked with owned in Canyon Country, or further out in Palmdale/Landscatter because they preferred to have a 3000sqft home over a smaller Toluca Lake townhouse. That said, the Bay Area does a pretty pisspoor job of creating higher-density housing. Generally not as profitable as single-family homes, so it's up to local govt. to step in and create incentives for builders and developers to build housing that takes some pressure off of the transportation networks. Plus, sitting in traffic sucks.
Right about there, doogie, Pawz, sledog, and Race just started screaming communist!!!!!
I knowingly put that dog whistle in there
It's not a dog whistle
Local Cali government makes housing more expensive. That's what they're good at.
LA wants to tax home builders for affordable housing. Making housing more expensive to make it affordable
That's only part of the issue in the Bay Area. Like Seattle there's only so much room. Location will cost you
What “LA” are you referring to? The state CEQA law is a notorious tool for NIMBYs, and municipalities add layers to the bureaucracy builders go through (density, parking, transit, prevailing wage, and other environmental). The one scared cow has always been affordable housing however, especially within LA County and the 88 incorporated cities.
There’s a tax on affordable housing development?
LA is proposing it. I linked it here awhile back. The thread was not @MikeSeaver pop
And builders don't need incentives to make money. That's hondo fucking stupid
Congrats
He didn't say builders needed incentives to make money. Read his quote again.
I didn't say he did. Incentives to put people in little boxes to ride the bus to their little job aren't needed. Builders build what people want. They make money without your fucking stupid incentives to build what people don't want.
I didn't think I needed to spell it out. I was wrong
You are so cute when moving the goalposts back tracking your FS comment.
I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed
I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will
its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue
Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it
That's why I defend them here.
I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
You can buy a McMansion in Houston for 400K
Even in Cali you can get a nice house at your income levels.
When we bought our house the interest rate was double digits
What has changed is the banking laws after the crash. 20% down as a hard number is hard to come up with unless you bank most of your income for a year or two
Fuck McMansions. I would live in Houston if there were any tech jobs there worth a shit.
The Bay Area is a hard one but not impossible at your level. Probably will need some kind of commute
Or work from home.
Even in the early 1990's when I was working for the studios, most guys I worked with owned in Canyon Country, or further out in Palmdale/Landscatter because they preferred to have a 3000sqft home over a smaller Toluca Lake townhouse. That said, the Bay Area does a pretty pisspoor job of creating higher-density housing. Generally not as profitable as single-family homes, so it's up to local govt. to step in and create incentives for builders and developers to build housing that takes some pressure off of the transportation networks. Plus, sitting in traffic sucks.
Right about there, doogie, Pawz, sledog, and Race just started screaming communist!!!!!
I knowingly put that dog whistle in there
It's not a dog whistle
Local Cali government makes housing more expensive. That's what they're good at.
LA wants to tax home builders for affordable housing. Making housing more expensive to make it affordable
That's only part of the issue in the Bay Area. Like Seattle there's only so much room. Location will cost you
Anywhere you need to sidestep shit on the sidewalk or needles in the park is fucked. Fuck Cisco
I forgot puke but that's ok because it means somebody was partying their balls off. Ok SF good for some things but fuck the traffic.
And builders don't need incentives to make money. That's hondo fucking stupid
Congrats
He didn't say builders needed incentives to make money. Read his quote again.
I didn't say he did. Incentives to put people in little boxes to ride the bus to their little job aren't needed. Builders build what people want. They make money without your fucking stupid incentives to build what people don't want.
I didn't think I needed to spell it out. I was wrong
For builders, single-family homes are profitable. High-density stuff like townhomes and condos are also profitable, but less so. Builders prefer to build single family homes for this reason; they're in business to maximize profit.
People want affordable housing. Builders want to maximize profit. This leads to a suboptimal aggregate outcome unless local govt. steps in to provide incentives for builders to build housing that people want, where people want it, for a price they can afford.
That liberal rag The Economist spelled it out pretty clearly many years ago, specifically in reference to Bay Area housing policy. I paid special attention to it at the time because it dealt with how Bay Area local govt. incentives affected the housing market in the Central Valley, and why my parents' efforts to become Modesto property barons in the early 1990's didn't work out the way they hoped.
And builders don't need incentives to make money. That's hondo fucking stupid
Congrats
He didn't say builders needed incentives to make money. Read his quote again.
I didn't say he did. Incentives to put people in little boxes to ride the bus to their little job aren't needed. Builders build what people want. They make money without your fucking stupid incentives to build what people don't want.
I didn't think I needed to spell it out. I was wrong
For builders, single-family homes are profitable. High-density stuff like townhomes and condos are also profitable, but less so. Builders prefer to build single family homes for this reason; they're in business to maximize profit.
People want affordable housing. Builders want to maximize profit. This leads to a suboptimal aggregate outcome unless local govt. steps in to provide incentives for builders to build housing that people want, where people want it, for a price they can afford.
That liberal rag The Economist spelled it out pretty clearly many years ago, specifically in reference to Bay Area housing policy. I paid special attention to it at the time because it dealt with how Bay Area local govt. incentives affected the housing market in the Central Valley, and why my parents' efforts to become Modesto property barons in the early 1990's didn't work out the way they hoped.
Sounds like you’ve read a lot of Academics writing about building theory.
And builders don't need incentives to make money. That's hondo fucking stupid
Congrats
He didn't say builders needed incentives to make money. Read his quote again.
I didn't say he did. Incentives to put people in little boxes to ride the bus to their little job aren't needed. Builders build what people want. They make money without your fucking stupid incentives to build what people don't want.
I didn't think I needed to spell it out. I was wrong
For builders, single-family homes are profitable. High-density stuff like townhomes and condos are also profitable, but less so. Builders prefer to build single family homes for this reason; they're in business to maximize profit.
People want affordable housing. Builders want to maximize profit. This leads to a suboptimal aggregate outcome unless local govt. steps in to provide incentives for builders to build housing that people want, where people want it, for a price they can afford.
That liberal rag The Economist spelled it out pretty clearly many years ago, specifically in reference to Bay Area housing policy. I paid special attention to it at the time because it dealt with how Bay Area local govt. incentives affected the housing market in the Central Valley, and why my parents' efforts to become Modesto property barons in the early 1990's didn't work out the way they hoped.
People want affordable single family housing. Crisp
If they wanted boxes they wouldn't need to be subsidized. If you want affordable housing deregulate. Building codes are for the safety of the population. Beyond that is just fucking up the game
20 years of pointless war that was costing over $1B a day at it's peak.
The housing bubble where rich people robbed the American public and the government paid them back 100 cents on the dollar for any short term loss.
Crippling student loan debt to get a job that previous generations never needed a formal education to do, yet still did the job equally well.
There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on? A good capitalistic environment is supposed to motivate people to create a job instead of finding one, which went away 40 years ago.
We are generally viewed negatively by most of the established world.
We completely destroyed an entire continent in their lifetime and stirred up a hornets nest that brings terror to everyone's door step.
We can't spare $4M for Meals on Wheels but we need $65B more annually for defense. You know, cause the......fuck we're out of enemies.
The quality of life between working your ass off and not working at all is pretty similar.
Trying to save money with a meager salary to enjoy life when it's already over instead of using it while you can enjoy it is fucking stupid. All you are doing it making someone else rich.
If you work really hard you can be rich one day! 99.9% false.
I can keep going. Millennials are a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. They're the best bullshit detectors this nation has ever produced.
Most things on your list were previously satisfied by having common sense, a strong work ethic and life experience. All traits millennials have little of and try to replace it with shitty education in stupid fields.
Previously. You said it yourself. Things change.
Sleddoog, Race, and their retard apprentice OBK don't understand people adapt when presented bullshit propaganda.
There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on
The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented
CHRIST
Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.
How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?
Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.
Exxon, Shell, BP.
Anymore sound Boomer logic?
I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.
Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.
Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?
The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.
Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
Sounds like you should kill yourself
Or just take a six figure job in a place that is dirt cheap to live and has everything I want in life. I'm 34, debt free, have 10 times in the bank what the average Millennial does and I'll retire a millionaire at 57.
America is easy if you aren't stuck to overpriced cesspools.
There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on
The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented
CHRIST
Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.
How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?
Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.
Exxon, Shell, BP.
Anymore sound Boomer logic?
I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.
Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.
Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?
The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.
Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
Sounds like you should kill yourself
Or just take a six figure job in a place that is dirt cheap to live and has everything I want in life. I'm 34, debt free, have 10 times in the bank what the average Millennial does and I'll retire a millionaire at 57.
America is easy if you aren't stuck to overpriced cesspools.
You're making six figures as an assistant high school football coach?
There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on
The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented
CHRIST
Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.
How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?
Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.
Exxon, Shell, BP.
Anymore sound Boomer logic?
I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.
Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.
Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?
The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.
Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
Sounds like you should kill yourself
Or just take a six figure job in a place that is dirt cheap to live and has everything I want in life. I'm 34, debt free, have 10 times in the bank what the average Millennial does and I'll retire a millionaire at 57.
America is easy if you aren't stuck to overpriced cesspools.
You're making six figures as an assistant high school football coach?
No. I do that for free. I just enjoy coaching football. The stipends are insulting. It amounts to like 35 cents an hour. Our head man makes about $80k and only has to do one hour a day of non-football related work.
There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on
The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented
CHRIST
Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.
How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?
Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.
Exxon, Shell, BP.
Anymore sound Boomer logic?
I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.
Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.
Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?
The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.
Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
Sounds like you should kill yourself
Or just take a six figure job in a place that is dirt cheap to live and has everything I want in life. I'm 34, debt free, have 10 times in the bank what the average Millennial does and I'll retire a millionaire at 57.
America is easy if you aren't stuck to overpriced cesspools.
Being a millionaire isn't what it used to be, FWIW
There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on
The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented
CHRIST
Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.
How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?
Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.
Exxon, Shell, BP.
Anymore sound Boomer logic?
I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.
Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.
Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?
The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.
Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
Sounds like you should kill yourself
Or just take a six figure job in a place that is dirt cheap to live and has everything I want in life. I'm 34, debt free, have 10 times in the bank what the average Millennial does and I'll retire a millionaire at 57.
America is easy if you aren't stuck to overpriced cesspools.
Being a millionaire isn't what it used to be, FWIW
Agreed, it never was honestly. I live cheap as shit though. I could live on a million dollars for a thousand years.
I'll have four different pensions as well, so there is that.
There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on
The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented
CHRIST
Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.
How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?
Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.
Exxon, Shell, BP.
Anymore sound Boomer logic?
I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.
Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.
Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?
The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.
Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
Sounds like you should kill yourself
Or just take a six figure job in a place that is dirt cheap to live and has everything I want in life. I'm 34, debt free, have 10 times in the bank what the average Millennial does and I'll retire a millionaire at 57.
America is easy if you aren't stuck to overpriced cesspools.
Being a millionaire isn't what it used to be, FWIW
Agreed, it never was honestly. I live cheap as shit though. I could live on a million dollars for a thousand years.
I'll have four different pensions as well, so there is that.
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A plan by our next governor
I forgot puke but that's ok because it means somebody was partying their balls off. Ok SF good for some things but fuck the traffic.
People want affordable housing. Builders want to maximize profit. This leads to a suboptimal aggregate outcome unless local govt. steps in to provide incentives for builders to build housing that people want, where people want it, for a price they can afford.
That liberal rag The Economist spelled it out pretty clearly many years ago, specifically in reference to Bay Area housing policy. I paid special attention to it at the time because it dealt with how Bay Area local govt. incentives affected the housing market in the Central Valley, and why my parents' efforts to become Modesto property barons in the early 1990's didn't work out the way they hoped.
If they wanted boxes they wouldn't need to be subsidized. If you want affordable housing deregulate. Building codes are for the safety of the population. Beyond that is just fucking up the game
America is easy if you aren't stuck to overpriced cesspools.
I'll have four different pensions as well, so there is that.
Bye.