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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,742
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    salemcoog said:

    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    Sounds like Norman Rockwell's America has foresaken you.







    But even more it sounds as if you don't like to save Money and probably have too high of a car payment.
    I own my car outright. Sounds like I live in the Bay Area.
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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,742
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    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    You can buy a McMansion in Houston for 400K

    Even in Cali you can get a nice house at your income levels.

    When we bought our house the interest rate was double digits

    What has changed is the banking laws after the crash. 20% down as a hard number is hard to come up with unless you bank most of your income for a year or two
    Fuck McMansions. I would live in Houston if there were any tech jobs there worth a shit.
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    UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,578
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    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    You can buy a McMansion in Houston for 400K

    Even in Cali you can get a nice house at your income levels.

    When we bought our house the interest rate was double digits

    What has changed is the banking laws after the crash. 20% down as a hard number is hard to come up with unless you bank most of your income for a year or two
    Fuck McMansions. I would live in Houston if there were any tech jobs there worth a shit.
    California bay area known for embracing the free market.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    You can buy a McMansion in Houston for 400K

    Even in Cali you can get a nice house at your income levels.

    When we bought our house the interest rate was double digits

    What has changed is the banking laws after the crash. 20% down as a hard number is hard to come up with unless you bank most of your income for a year or two
    Fuck McMansions. I would live in Houston if there were any tech jobs there worth a shit.
    Try Spokane or Portland. I know quite a few tech guys in Spokane.
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    BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,969
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    Mosster47 said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Mosster47 said:

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on



    The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented

    CHRIST

    Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.

    How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?

    Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.

    Exxon, Shell, BP.

    Anymore sound Boomer logic?
    I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
    Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.

    Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.

    Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?

    The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.

    Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
    I happened to stumble upon Back to the Future III last night, so real hoverboreds are on my mind. Not the stupid rolly things they sell today. Antigrav is out there, you just need to figure it out.

    California just legalized the herb, and I know a few folks who got into the business a few years ago to be able to hit the ground running. Wife also likes working with pot growers, because they pay on time and in cash.

    I here you can buy Solyndra real cheap these days.

    My facetious examples aside, the serious! poont is that new industries are always forming, and there are always opportunities for innovative people.
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    2001400ex said:

    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    You and your partner can buy one together. I'm sure he'll help you clean the house.
    My point was that we can't dream about it even with our combined salaries.
    If both of you make 6 figures send me a plane ticket and I'll have you in a house
    This has all the makings of a superior lemon party.
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    doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
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    Quick search of the MLS shows plenty available around San Francisco under $2 million. You’re being too picky.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,562
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    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    You can buy a McMansion in Houston for 400K

    Even in Cali you can get a nice house at your income levels.

    When we bought our house the interest rate was double digits

    What has changed is the banking laws after the crash. 20% down as a hard number is hard to come up with unless you bank most of your income for a year or two
    Fuck McMansions. I would live in Houston if there were any tech jobs there worth a shit.
    The Bay Area is a hard one but not impossible at your level. Probably will need some kind of commute

    Or work from home.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    BearsWiin said:

    Mosster47 said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Mosster47 said:

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on



    The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented

    CHRIST

    Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.

    How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?

    Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.

    Exxon, Shell, BP.

    Anymore sound Boomer logic?
    I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
    Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.

    Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.

    Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?

    The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.

    Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
    I happened to stumble upon Back to the Future III last night, so real hoverboreds are on my mind. Not the stupid rolly things they sell today. Antigrav is out there, you just need to figure it out.

    California just legalized the herb, and I know a few folks who got into the business a few years ago to be able to hit the ground running. Wife also likes working with pot growers, because they pay on time and in cash.

    I here you can buy Solyndra real cheap these days.

    My facetious examples aside, the serious! poont is that new industries are always forming, and there are always opportunities for innovative people.
    Problem in California is no banking. Was talking to a buddy today who works with several operations there. One business has several drivers with cash that go around to vendors and are trusted with money. Payroll is the same. Crazy shit going on right now.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,711
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    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Mosster47 said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Mosster47 said:

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on



    The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented

    CHRIST

    Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.

    How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?

    Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.

    Exxon, Shell, BP.

    Anymore sound Boomer logic?
    I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
    Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.

    Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.

    Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?

    The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.

    Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
    I happened to stumble upon Back to the Future III last night, so real hoverboreds are on my mind. Not the stupid rolly things they sell today. Antigrav is out there, you just need to figure it out.

    California just legalized the herb, and I know a few folks who got into the business a few years ago to be able to hit the ground running. Wife also likes working with pot growers, because they pay on time and in cash.

    I here you can buy Solyndra real cheap these days.

    My facetious examples aside, the serious! poont is that new industries are always forming, and there are always opportunities for innovative people.
    Problem in California is no banking. Was talking to a buddy today who works with several operations there. One business has several drivers with cash that go around to vendors and are trusted with money. Payroll is the same. Crazy shit going on right now.
    Cunts all of them.
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    edited January 2018
    Interesting how the topic morphed from socialism/communism into hawt California talk. Makes sense, CA is a case study in the failure of socialism.
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    BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,969
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    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Mosster47 said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Mosster47 said:

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on



    The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented

    CHRIST

    Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.

    How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?

    Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.

    Exxon, Shell, BP.

    Anymore sound Boomer logic?
    I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
    Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.

    Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.

    Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?

    The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.

    Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
    I happened to stumble upon Back to the Future III last night, so real hoverboreds are on my mind. Not the stupid rolly things they sell today. Antigrav is out there, you just need to figure it out.

    California just legalized the herb, and I know a few folks who got into the business a few years ago to be able to hit the ground running. Wife also likes working with pot growers, because they pay on time and in cash.

    I here you can buy Solyndra real cheap these days.

    My facetious examples aside, the serious! poont is that new industries are always forming, and there are always opportunities for innovative people.
    Problem in California is no banking. Was talking to a buddy today who works with several operations there. One business has several drivers with cash that go around to vendors and are trusted with money. Payroll is the same. Crazy shit going on right now.
    See, now some innovative mind might come up with a legit weed bank. See a need, fill it.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    BearsWiin said:

    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Mosster47 said:

    BearsWiin said:

    Mosster47 said:

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on



    The people that started those businesses weren't fucking stupid enough to think everything had been invented

    CHRIST

    Right, because the fucking internet is going to be invented again.

    How many new major car and oil companies have popped up in the last 50 years that have put a dent in the big boy's wallets?

    Ford, Chevy, Chrysler.

    Exxon, Shell, BP.

    Anymore sound Boomer logic?
    I think the poont is that new industries will be created, not that new companies will challenge established industry leaders. Weed, renewable energy, and hoverboards are still up for grabs.
    Weed has already been monopolized by everyone knowing how to grow it. The government fucked up that cash grab.

    Renewable energy is a joke. My holdings in WNDW hit two weeks ago. Thanks for the 212%, but it's a joke. Our president is balls deep in cole.

    Hoverboards that catch on fire after three hours?

    The internet is already monopolized and the FCC just locked them in.

    Millennials will be the generation that brings it all down by waiting for Baby Boomers to die and swooping their retirement dream homes for pennies on the dollar, shopping at thrift stores and outlets, and buying used cars and driving them until they die. The generation after them are even cheaper.
    I happened to stumble upon Back to the Future III last night, so real hoverboreds are on my mind. Not the stupid rolly things they sell today. Antigrav is out there, you just need to figure it out.

    California just legalized the herb, and I know a few folks who got into the business a few years ago to be able to hit the ground running. Wife also likes working with pot growers, because they pay on time and in cash.

    I here you can buy Solyndra real cheap these days.

    My facetious examples aside, the serious! poont is that new industries are always forming, and there are always opportunities for innovative people.
    Problem in California is no banking. Was talking to a buddy today who works with several operations there. One business has several drivers with cash that go around to vendors and are trusted with money. Payroll is the same. Crazy shit going on right now.
    See, now some innovative mind might come up with a legit weed bank. See a need, fill it.
    I'm actually working on that. State lines are the issue. Swayes people are the best way to go.
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    BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,969
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    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    You can buy a McMansion in Houston for 400K

    Even in Cali you can get a nice house at your income levels.

    When we bought our house the interest rate was double digits

    What has changed is the banking laws after the crash. 20% down as a hard number is hard to come up with unless you bank most of your income for a year or two
    Fuck McMansions. I would live in Houston if there were any tech jobs there worth a shit.
    The Bay Area is a hard one but not impossible at your level. Probably will need some kind of commute

    Or work from home.
    Even in the early 1990's when I was working for the studios, most guys I worked with owned in Canyon Country, or further out in Palmdale/Landscatter because they preferred to have a 3000sqft home over a smaller Toluca Lake townhouse. That said, the Bay Area does a pretty pisspoor job of creating higher-density housing. Generally not as profitable as single-family homes, so it's up to local govt. to step in and create incentives for builders and developers to build housing that takes some pressure off of the transportation networks. Plus, sitting in traffic sucks.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,753
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    Sledog said:

    Mosster47 said:

    Millennials know:

    20 years of pointless war that was costing over $1B a day at it's peak.

    The housing bubble where rich people robbed the American public and the government paid them back 100 cents on the dollar for any short term loss.

    Crippling student loan debt to get a job that previous generations never needed a formal education to do, yet still did the job equally well.

    There is no more competition. Amazon, Google, eBay, and Netflix won. Seriously, what business are you going to start that some titan doesn't already have a complete monopoly on? A good capitalistic environment is supposed to motivate people to create a job instead of finding one, which went away 40 years ago.

    We are generally viewed negatively by most of the established world.

    We completely destroyed an entire continent in their lifetime and stirred up a hornets nest that brings terror to everyone's door step.

    We can't spare $4M for Meals on Wheels but we need $65B more annually for defense. You know, cause the......fuck we're out of enemies.

    The quality of life between working your ass off and not working at all is pretty similar.

    Trying to save money with a meager salary to enjoy life when it's already over instead of using it while you can enjoy it is fucking stupid. All you are doing it making someone else rich.

    If you work really hard you can be rich one day! 99.9% false.


    I can keep going. Millennials are a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. They're the best bullshit detectors this nation has ever produced.

    Most things on your list were previously satisfied by having common sense, a strong work ethic and life experience. All traits millennials have little of and try to replace it with shitty education in stupid fields.
    Hmm. I don't know about that. Look, I've learned to look past your racist and reactionary filter on everything. But this post screams " I didn't go to college and look at me!"

    Millenials are a pretty adept bunch. They learn quickly, adapt to technology better, have a broader view of things and generally just know more shit than we did at their age. All of that because of the time in which they grew up and their greatly enhanced access to information. Think about what a shit show the encyclopedia and Dewey Decimal System were. Way too much fucking work for too little shit information.

    Their educations are actually better, more enhanced by technology and, again, efficient access to relevant information, and there are more options than ever. You do realize that if you go back far enough the only thing anyone studied was Classics (which is still a worthy thing in and of itself, but that's another thread).

    Also, common sense is common for a reason, and incredibly overrated, as is the term, which is incredibly overused. The dumbest fucks I know get by on "common sense", and then I have to explain to them how it really works as they stare at me in wonder.

    Everyone has life experience because everyone is living. You don't need to be white, slightly overweight, scruffy, rural and blue-collar to have it, and you can get it places other than "the job site" and the local tav.

    Finally, the millenials around me work their asses off and are far less likely to disappear at 5:30 than their middle-aged counterparts.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    BearsWiin said:

    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    You can buy a McMansion in Houston for 400K

    Even in Cali you can get a nice house at your income levels.

    When we bought our house the interest rate was double digits

    What has changed is the banking laws after the crash. 20% down as a hard number is hard to come up with unless you bank most of your income for a year or two
    Fuck McMansions. I would live in Houston if there were any tech jobs there worth a shit.
    The Bay Area is a hard one but not impossible at your level. Probably will need some kind of commute

    Or work from home.
    Even in the early 1990's when I was working for the studios, most guys I worked with owned in Canyon Country, or further out in Palmdale/Landscatter because they preferred to have a 3000sqft home over a smaller Toluca Lake townhouse. That said, the Bay Area does a pretty pisspoor job of creating higher-density housing. Generally not as profitable as single-family homes, so it's up to local govt. to step in and create incentives for builders and developers to build housing that takes some pressure off of the transportation networks. Plus, sitting in traffic sucks.
    Right about there, doogie, Pawz, sledog, and Race just started screaming communist!!!!!
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    BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,969
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    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    You can buy a McMansion in Houston for 400K

    Even in Cali you can get a nice house at your income levels.

    When we bought our house the interest rate was double digits

    What has changed is the banking laws after the crash. 20% down as a hard number is hard to come up with unless you bank most of your income for a year or two
    Fuck McMansions. I would live in Houston if there were any tech jobs there worth a shit.
    The Bay Area is a hard one but not impossible at your level. Probably will need some kind of commute

    Or work from home.
    Even in the early 1990's when I was working for the studios, most guys I worked with owned in Canyon Country, or further out in Palmdale/Landscatter because they preferred to have a 3000sqft home over a smaller Toluca Lake townhouse. That said, the Bay Area does a pretty pisspoor job of creating higher-density housing. Generally not as profitable as single-family homes, so it's up to local govt. to step in and create incentives for builders and developers to build housing that takes some pressure off of the transportation networks. Plus, sitting in traffic sucks.
    Right about there, doogie, Pawz, sledog, and Race just started screaming communist!!!!!
    I knowingly put that dog whistle in there
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,562
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    BearsWiin said:

    2001400ex said:

    BearsWiin said:

    I don't agree with @Sledog . The millennials I have worked with lived n the film room and are more than willing to do what it takes to win. Nothing has changed

    I graduated high school in 1974 as America was descending in to hell. Guess what? Hard work still worked. Always has, always will

    its idiots like mooster running around saying all is lost that need to get a fucking clue

    Best thing I ever did was walking away from a career and starting over and working with millennials. We both benefited from it

    That's why I defend them here.

    I have a 6 figure salary and work in arguably the highest demand industry (tech). My partner (who has a higher 6 figure salary than me) and I can't even dream about buying a home within 30 miles of our workplace. Granted, I don't consider myself a millennial (I'm 36), but if we can't buy a house, things have just changed.
    You can buy a McMansion in Houston for 400K

    Even in Cali you can get a nice house at your income levels.

    When we bought our house the interest rate was double digits

    What has changed is the banking laws after the crash. 20% down as a hard number is hard to come up with unless you bank most of your income for a year or two
    Fuck McMansions. I would live in Houston if there were any tech jobs there worth a shit.
    The Bay Area is a hard one but not impossible at your level. Probably will need some kind of commute

    Or work from home.
    Even in the early 1990's when I was working for the studios, most guys I worked with owned in Canyon Country, or further out in Palmdale/Landscatter because they preferred to have a 3000sqft home over a smaller Toluca Lake townhouse. That said, the Bay Area does a pretty pisspoor job of creating higher-density housing. Generally not as profitable as single-family homes, so it's up to local govt. to step in and create incentives for builders and developers to build housing that takes some pressure off of the transportation networks. Plus, sitting in traffic sucks.
    Right about there, doogie, Pawz, sledog, and Race just started screaming communist!!!!!
    I knowingly put that dog whistle in there
    It's not a dog whistle

    Local Cali government makes housing more expensive. That's what they're good at.

    LA wants to tax home builders for affordable housing. Making housing more expensive to make it affordable

    That's only part of the issue in the Bay Area. Like Seattle there's only so much room. Location will cost you
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,562
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    And builders don't need incentives to make money. That's hondo fucking stupid

    Congrats
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