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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,692 Founders Club

    Smart bidness men like Uncle Phil don't get rich by throwing money around where there's no probable ROI. Willie was nowhere nearing playing with house money yet.

    Might be a smart business man but he's a retard about the football program. You want a title, you pay for it -- big money -- to bring in a proven coach like Urban Meyer and make it happen. You don't roll the dice with assistants, pay chump change and expect results.
    Those types of home run from the get go hires are pretty fucking rare no matter how much money the boosters can pony up. Think about the PAC in say the last 20 years. There have been two: Petersen to UW and Chip Kelly to UCLA. It's not about the money, rather the scarcity of those types of opportunities where all the stars align.
  • RhythmicSlappingDawg
    RhythmicSlappingDawg Member Posts: 1,176
    Who is the creep you speak of? I need to meat this guy!
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited December 2017

    Smart bidness men like Uncle Phil don't get rich by throwing money around where there's no probable ROI. Willie was nowhere nearing playing with house money yet.

    Might be a smart business man but he's a retard about the football program. You want a title, you pay for it -- big money -- to bring in a proven coach like Urban Meyer and make it happen. You don't roll the dice with assistants, pay chump change and expect results.
    Those types of home run from the get go hires are pretty fucking rare no matter how much money the boosters can pony up. Think about the PAC in say the last 20 years. There have been two: Petersen to UW and Chip Kelly to UCLA. It's not about the money, rather the scarcity of those types of opportunities where all the stars align.
    Going to stop you right there. You guys should stop acting like Pete belongs in the same discussion as coaches like Saban, Meyer and Kelly. There's a steep drop off between genius level coaches and good, solid coaches. Pete is a good coach. He's no genius.
  • RhythmicSlappingDawg
    RhythmicSlappingDawg Member Posts: 1,176

    Smart bidness men like Uncle Phil don't get rich by throwing money around where there's no probable ROI. Willie was nowhere nearing playing with house money yet.

    Might be a smart business man but he's a retard about the football program. You want a title, you pay for it -- big money -- to bring in a proven coach like Urban Meyer and make it happen. You don't roll the dice with assistants, pay chump change and expect results.
    Those types of home run from the get go hires are pretty fucking rare no matter how much money the boosters can pony up. Think about the PAC in say the last 20 years. There have been two: Petersen to UW and Chip Kelly to UCLA. It's not about the money, rather the scarcity of those types of opportunities where all the stars align.
    Going to stop you right there. You guys should stop acting like Pete belongs in the same discussion as coaches like Saban, Meyer and Kelly. There's a steep drop off between genius level coachs and good, solid coaches. Pete is a good coach. He's no genius.
    OK!
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    Smart bidness men like Uncle Phil don't get rich by throwing money around where there's no probable ROI. Willie was nowhere nearing playing with house money yet.

    Free MF'in pub.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,692 Founders Club

    Smart bidness men like Uncle Phil don't get rich by throwing money around where there's no probable ROI. Willie was nowhere nearing playing with house money yet.

    Might be a smart business man but he's a retard about the football program. You want a title, you pay for it -- big money -- to bring in a proven coach like Urban Meyer and make it happen. You don't roll the dice with assistants, pay chump change and expect results.
    Those types of home run from the get go hires are pretty fucking rare no matter how much money the boosters can pony up. Think about the PAC in say the last 20 years. There have been two: Petersen to UW and Chip Kelly to UCLA. It's not about the money, rather the scarcity of those types of opportunities where all the stars align.
    Going to stop you right there. You guys should stop acting like Pete belongs in the same discussion as coaches like Saban, Meyer and Kelly. There's a steep drop off between genius level coaches and good, solid coaches. Pete is a good coach. He's no genius.
    Pete's resume stacks up as well as any coach in the country who hasn't won NTs at multiple programs. Winning big at 2 different programs is a yuge fucking deal. He's not the revolutionary the Chip was/is but an equally great coach in a different way.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,271
    edited December 2017

    Smart bidness men like Uncle Phil don't get rich by throwing money around where there's no probable ROI. Willie was nowhere nearing playing with house money yet.

    Might be a smart business man but he's a retard about the football program. You want a title, you pay for it -- big money -- to bring in a proven coach like Urban Meyer and make it happen. You don't roll the dice with assistants, pay chump change and expect results.
    Those types of home run from the get go hires are pretty fucking rare no matter how much money the boosters can pony up. Think about the PAC in say the last 20 years. There have been two: Petersen to UW and Chip Kelly to UCLA. It's not about the money, rather the scarcity of those types of opportunities where all the stars align.
    Leave him alone. OBK is winning. He doesn't think coordinator and "assistant types" make good HCs; gotta go with the splash hire. Like the 4th of JueLie!

    Knight dropped a half a billion on a science complex just the other day, has thrown hundreds of millions at them on other stuff for the school, cares about sports a lot, but just can't see his way to being on board with the difference between what a Norvell, Tedford, Sumlin or similar guy would cost and Mario Brothers. Just won't do it.

    Look genius. People say 'no' to USC all the time, and they have money too. Pete Carroll was, what, their 4th choice? The amount of $$ that it would take to get a guy like Meyer to drop OSU would be beyond staggering, and if it didn't work out, and it doesn't at least as often as it does, you're back to square one.

    Arguing Norvell, Sumlin, Tedford, Harsin, etc. is one thing. Whatever that would have cost is a detail to PK. Arguing Saban, Meyer, or some other all-timer is something quite different. I don't think this game is as easy as it must seem to you from your recliner in Eagles Landing Phase IV.
  • RhythmicSlappingDawg
    RhythmicSlappingDawg Member Posts: 1,176

    Smart bidness men like Uncle Phil don't get rich by throwing money around where there's no probable ROI. Willie was nowhere nearing playing with house money yet.

    Might be a smart business man but he's a retard about the football program. You want a title, you pay for it -- big money -- to bring in a proven coach like Urban Meyer and make it happen. You don't roll the dice with assistants, pay chump change and expect results.
    Those types of home run from the get go hires are pretty fucking rare no matter how much money the boosters can pony up. Think about the PAC in say the last 20 years. There have been two: Petersen to UW and Chip Kelly to UCLA. It's not about the money, rather the scarcity of those types of opportunities where all the stars align.
    Leave him alone. OBK is winning. He doesn't think coordinator and "assistant types" make good HCs; gotta go with the splash hire. Like the 4th of JewLie!

    Knight dropped a half a billion on a science complex just the other day, has thrown hundreds of millions at them on other stuff for the school, cares about sports a lot, but just can't see his way to being on board with the difference between what a Norvell, Tedford, Sumlin or similar guy would cost and Mario Brothers. Just won't do it.

    Look genius. People say 'no' to USC all the time, and they have money too. Pete Carroll was, what, their 4th choice? The amount of $$ that it would take to get a guy like Meyer to drop OSU would be beyond staggering, and if it didn't work out, and it doesn't at least as often as it does, you're back to square one.

    Arguing Norvell, Sumlin, Tedford, Harsin, etc. is one thing. Whatever that would have cost is a detail to PK. Arguing Saban, Meyer, or some other all-timer is something quite different. I don't think this game is as easy as it must seem to you from your recliner in Eagles Landing Phase IV.
    Fixed.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,692 Founders Club

    Smart bidness men like Uncle Phil don't get rich by throwing money around where there's no probable ROI. Willie was nowhere nearing playing with house money yet.

    Might be a smart business man but he's a retard about the football program. You want a title, you pay for it -- big money -- to bring in a proven coach like Urban Meyer and make it happen. You don't roll the dice with assistants, pay chump change and expect results.
    Those types of home run from the get go hires are pretty fucking rare no matter how much money the boosters can pony up. Think about the PAC in say the last 20 years. There have been two: Petersen to UW and Chip Kelly to UCLA. It's not about the money, rather the scarcity of those types of opportunities where all the stars align.
    Leave him alone. OBK is winning. He doesn't think coordinator and "assistant types" make good HCs; gotta go with the splash hire. Like the 4th of JueLie!

    Knight dropped a half a billion on a science complex just the other day, has thrown hundreds of millions at them on other stuff for the school, cares about sports a lot, but just can't see his way to being on board with the difference between what a Norvell, Tedford, Sumlin or similar guy would cost and Mario Brothers. Just won't do it.

    Look genius. People say 'no' to USC all the time, and they have money too. Pete Carroll was, what, their 4th choice? The amount of $$ that it would take to get a guy like Meyer to drop OSU would be beyond staggering, and if it didn't work out, and it doesn't at least as often as it does, you're back to square one.

    Arguing Norvell, Sumlin, Tedford, Harsin, etc. is one thing. Whatever that would have cost is a detail to PK. Arguing Saban, Meyer, or some other all-timer is something quite different. I don't think this game is as easy as it must seem to you from your recliner in Eagles Landing Phase IV.
    Look at Texas A&M - what's the likelihood Jimbo is going to deliver the results they are looking for at $7.5 million x 10 years? There's no lock that that guy is going to win a SEC title. Georgia went the coordinator route and is in the fucking playoff. Miami went the retread route and got damn near the playoff.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,271
    edited December 2017

    Smart bidness men like Uncle Phil don't get rich by throwing money around where there's no probable ROI. Willie was nowhere nearing playing with house money yet.

    Might be a smart business man but he's a retard about the football program. You want a title, you pay for it -- big money -- to bring in a proven coach like Urban Meyer and make it happen. You don't roll the dice with assistants, pay chump change and expect results.
    Those types of home run from the get go hires are pretty fucking rare no matter how much money the boosters can pony up. Think about the PAC in say the last 20 years. There have been two: Petersen to UW and Chip Kelly to UCLA. It's not about the money, rather the scarcity of those types of opportunities where all the stars align.
    Leave him alone. OBK is winning. He doesn't think coordinator and "assistant types" make good HCs; gotta go with the splash hire. Like the 4th of JueLie!

    Knight dropped a half a billion on a science complex just the other day, has thrown hundreds of millions at them on other stuff for the school, cares about sports a lot, but just can't see his way to being on board with the difference between what a Norvell, Tedford, Sumlin or similar guy would cost and Mario Brothers. Just won't do it.

    Look genius. People say 'no' to USC all the time, and they have money too. Pete Carroll was, what, their 4th choice? The amount of $$ that it would take to get a guy like Meyer to drop OSU would be beyond staggering, and if it didn't work out, and it doesn't at least as often as it does, you're back to square one.

    Arguing Norvell, Sumlin, Tedford, Harsin, etc. is one thing. Whatever that would have cost is a detail to PK. Arguing Saban, Meyer, or some other all-timer is something quite different. I don't think this game is as easy as it must seem to you from your recliner in Eagles Landing Phase IV.
    Look at Texas A&M - what's the likelihood Jimbo is going to deliver the results they are looking for at $7.5 million x 10 years? There's no lock that that guy is going to win a SEC title. Georgia went the coordinator route and is in the fucking playoff. Miami went the retread route and got damn near the playoff.
    I'd say the odds of Jumbo even winning his division are low. Oklahoma promoted their coordinator and is closer than they've been to winning it all than they've been in a while. Stoops' prior gig was D coordinator at Florida. Jumbo was a career assistant/coordinator and won a title. Swinney was a career assistant/coordinator before getting the interim tag at Clempsun and a promotion. Whatever. None of this is to say that the Ducks got it right with Crystal. It is to say, I'm laffing at the idea that Knight isn't serious about winning a title and wanted to save a few mill. You can't make this stuff up. You have to come here and read it for yourself.