Creepy's Thoughts on Crystal
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Jimbo has a recent title going for him. There's that. And the fact that he wasn't run out of town as a head coach like Cristobal was. I'd be happy if I were Texas A&M. Obviously they want to win titles and are willing to pay the money necessary to give themselves a shot, unlike Oregon.YellowSnow said:
Look at Texas A&M - what's the likelihood Jimbo is going to deliver the results they are looking for at $7.5 million x 10 years? There's no lock that that guy is going to win a SEC title. Georgia went the coordinator route and is in the fucking playoff. Miami went the retread route and got damn near the playoff.creepycoug said:
Leave him alone. OBK is winning. He doesn't think coordinator and "assistant types" make good HCs; gotta go with the splash hire. Like the 4th of JueLie!YellowSnow said:
Those types of home run from the get go hires are pretty fucking rare no matter how much money the boosters can pony up. Think about the PAC in say the last 20 years. There have been two: Petersen to UW and Chip Kelly to UCLA. It's not about the money, rather the scarcity of those types of opportunities where all the stars align.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Might be a smart business man but he's a retard about the football program. You want a title, you pay for it -- big money -- to bring in a proven coach like Urban Meyer and make it happen. You don't roll the dice with assistants, pay chump change and expect results.YellowSnow said:Smart bidness men like Uncle Phil don't get rich by throwing money around where there's no probable ROI. Willie was nowhere nearing playing with house money yet.
Knight dropped a half a billion on a science complex just the other day, has thrown hundreds of millions at them on other stuff for the school, cares about sports a lot, but just can't see his way to being on board with the difference between what a Norvell, Tedford, Sumlin or similar guy would cost and Mario Brothers. Just won't do it.
Look genius. People say 'no' to USC all the time, and they have money too. Pete Carroll was, what, their 4th choice? The amount of $$ that it would take to get a guy like Meyer to drop OSU would be beyond staggering, and if it didn't work out, and it doesn't at least as often as it does, you're back to square one.
Arguing Norvell, Sumlin, Tedford, Harsin, etc. is one thing. Whatever that would have cost is a detail to PK. Arguing Saban, Meyer, or some other all-timer is something quite different. I don't think this game is as easy as it must seem to you from your recliner in Eagles Landing Phase IV. -
I trust the Oregon AD.
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Trust him to be a retard. So do I.haie said:I trust the Oregon AD.
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I trust him.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Trust him to be a retard. So do I.haie said:I trust the Oregon AD.
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Jumbo was a career coordinator and position coach before FSU hired him. Then he won a title. That's how that played out. He'll likely never win another one.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Jimbo has a recent title going for him. There's that. And the fact that he wasn't run out of town as a head coach like Cristobal was. I'd be happy if I were Texas A&M. Obviously they want to win titles and are willing to pay the money necessary to give themselves a shot, unlike Oregon.YellowSnow said:
Look at Texas A&M - what's the likelihood Jimbo is going to deliver the results they are looking for at $7.5 million x 10 years? There's no lock that that guy is going to win a SEC title. Georgia went the coordinator route and is in the fucking playoff. Miami went the retread route and got damn near the playoff.creepycoug said:
Leave him alone. OBK is winning. He doesn't think coordinator and "assistant types" make good HCs; gotta go with the splash hire. Like the 4th of JueLie!YellowSnow said:
Those types of home run from the get go hires are pretty fucking rare no matter how much money the boosters can pony up. Think about the PAC in say the last 20 years. There have been two: Petersen to UW and Chip Kelly to UCLA. It's not about the money, rather the scarcity of those types of opportunities where all the stars align.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Might be a smart business man but he's a retard about the football program. You want a title, you pay for it -- big money -- to bring in a proven coach like Urban Meyer and make it happen. You don't roll the dice with assistants, pay chump change and expect results.YellowSnow said:Smart bidness men like Uncle Phil don't get rich by throwing money around where there's no probable ROI. Willie was nowhere nearing playing with house money yet.
Knight dropped a half a billion on a science complex just the other day, has thrown hundreds of millions at them on other stuff for the school, cares about sports a lot, but just can't see his way to being on board with the difference between what a Norvell, Tedford, Sumlin or similar guy would cost and Mario Brothers. Just won't do it.
Look genius. People say 'no' to USC all the time, and they have money too. Pete Carroll was, what, their 4th choice? The amount of $$ that it would take to get a guy like Meyer to drop OSU would be beyond staggering, and if it didn't work out, and it doesn't at least as often as it does, you're back to square one.
Arguing Norvell, Sumlin, Tedford, Harsin, etc. is one thing. Whatever that would have cost is a detail to PK. Arguing Saban, Meyer, or some other all-timer is something quite different. I don't think this game is as easy as it must seem to you from your recliner in Eagles Landing Phase IV.
The only person in football who didn't think FIU was fs for firing Cristobal was the guy who did it, and even he probably figured it out eventually. -
I like to spend other people's money for them. I like to do that. - OBK/doogie
Part of the deal is that Knight doesn't want to put the UO program into a deficit hole they can't climb out of. It's part of the reason the north side of the stadium hasn't been done yet. The new basketball arena was on life support before Altman got the program hopping again.
You can't pay 105,000 seat salaries with a 60,000 seat stadium. The athletics endowment gives UO more cushion and margin for error than most but you don't spend money just because you have it.
Between ridiculous stadium expansion and crazy salary for Jimbo, AnM could actually be looking at #stadiumdefault even if Fisher does reasonably well. Their AD was subsidized by the academic side as recently as 2014. Fortunately for AnM, they don't really care all that much about the academic side of the university so they will probably just shovel cash from their oil endowment into the AD like OBK wants Oregon to do.
Other than Mike Norvell, there were no good, realistic candidates out there this year. And who knows, maybe Norvell hates Oregon.
Krystal Gayle either succeeds or he doesn't. If not, we fire up the machine in a couple of years with enough time to line up a good set of candidates in a year when Oregon has more than 50 or so kids on scholarship (thanks Mark!). -
Yes, you do. You do spend money just because you have it. It's an advantage Knight and Oregon aren't putting to good enough use. Why drop half a billion (allegedly) on some stupid science center when you can drop half a billion on the football program and buy your way to a national championship...AZDuck said:I like to spend other people's money for them. I like to do that. - OBK/doogie
Part of the deal is that Knight doesn't want to put the UO program into a deficit hole they can't climb out of. It's part of the reason the north side of the stadium hasn't been done yet. The new basketball arena was on life support before Altman got the program hopping again.
You can't pay 105,000 seat salaries with a 60,000 seat stadium. The athletics endowment gives UO more cushion and margin for error than most but you don't spend money just because you have it. -
There’s so much jack retard in this post it’s amazing.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yes, you do. You do spend money just because you have it. It's an advantage Knight and Oregon aren't putting to good enough use. Why drop half a billion (allegedly) on some stupid science center when you can drop half a billion on the football program and buy your way to a national championship...AZDuck said:I like to spend other people's money for them. I like to do that. - OBK/doogie
Part of the deal is that Knight doesn't want to put the UO program into a deficit hole they can't climb out of. It's part of the reason the north side of the stadium hasn't been done yet. The new basketball arena was on life support before Altman got the program hopping again.
You can't pay 105,000 seat salaries with a 60,000 seat stadium. The athletics endowment gives UO more cushion and margin for error than most but you don't spend money just because you have it. -
you know how I know you haven't graduated from college?oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yes, you do. You do spend money just because you have it. It's an advantage Knight and Oregon aren't putting to good enough use. Why drop half a billion (allegedly) on some stupid science center when you can drop half a billion on the football program and buy your way to a national championship...AZDuck said:I like to spend other people's money for them. I like to do that. - OBK/doogie
Part of the deal is that Knight doesn't want to put the UO program into a deficit hole they can't climb out of. It's part of the reason the north side of the stadium hasn't been done yet. The new basketball arena was on life support before Altman got the program hopping again.
You can't pay 105,000 seat salaries with a 60,000 seat stadium. The athletics endowment gives UO more cushion and margin for error than most but you don't spend money just because you have it. -
That's why you and your kids aren't leaving the trailer park any time soon. Say hi to doogie for us.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yes, you do. You do spend money just because you have it. It's an advantage Knight and Oregon aren't putting to good enough use. Why drop half a billion (allegedly) on some stupid science center when you can drop half a billion on the football program and buy your way to a national championship...AZDuck said:I like to spend other people's money for them. I like to do that. - OBK/doogie
Part of the deal is that Knight doesn't want to put the UO program into a deficit hole they can't climb out of. It's part of the reason the north side of the stadium hasn't been done yet. The new basketball arena was on life support before Altman got the program hopping again.
You can't pay 105,000 seat salaries with a 60,000 seat stadium. The athletics endowment gives UO more cushion and margin for error than most but you don't spend money just because you have it.
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Loloregonblitzkrieg said:
Yes, you do. You do spend money just because you have it. It's an advantage Knight and Oregon aren't putting to good enough use. Why drop half a billion (allegedly) on some stupid science center when you can drop half a billion on the football program and buy your way to a national championship...AZDuck said:I like to spend other people's money for them. I like to do that. - OBK/doogie
Part of the deal is that Knight doesn't want to put the UO program into a deficit hole they can't climb out of. It's part of the reason the north side of the stadium hasn't been done yet. The new basketball arena was on life support before Altman got the program hopping again.
You can't pay 105,000 seat salaries with a 60,000 seat stadium. The athletics endowment gives UO more cushion and margin for error than most but you don't spend money just because you have it.
So you have figured out how to use the Internet to get here and post word vomit, but you still don't know about the Google. I could have a field day with this one, but it's starting to feel a lot like smacking krisvashon around for sport. It just didn't feel good at some point.
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I miss @MikeSeaver
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If we're going to bash trailer porks, meth and pumping gas, I'm out.creepycoug said:
That's why you and your kids aren't leaving the trailer park any time soon. Say hi to doogie for us.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yes, you do. You do spend money just because you have it. It's an advantage Knight and Oregon aren't putting to good enough use. Why drop half a billion (allegedly) on some stupid science center when you can drop half a billion on the football program and buy your way to a national championship...AZDuck said:I like to spend other people's money for them. I like to do that. - OBK/doogie
Part of the deal is that Knight doesn't want to put the UO program into a deficit hole they can't climb out of. It's part of the reason the north side of the stadium hasn't been done yet. The new basketball arena was on life support before Altman got the program hopping again.
You can't pay 105,000 seat salaries with a 60,000 seat stadium. The athletics endowment gives UO more cushion and margin for error than most but you don't spend money just because you have it.
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haie said:
There’s so much jack retard in this post it’s amazing.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yes, you do. You do spend money just because you have it. It's an advantage Knight and Oregon aren't putting to good enough use. Why drop half a billion (allegedly) on some stupid science center when you can drop half a billion on the football program and buy your way to a national championship...AZDuck said:I like to spend other people's money for them. I like to do that. - OBK/doogie
Part of the deal is that Knight doesn't want to put the UO program into a deficit hole they can't climb out of. It's part of the reason the north side of the stadium hasn't been done yet. The new basketball arena was on life support before Altman got the program hopping again.
You can't pay 105,000 seat salaries with a 60,000 seat stadium. The athletics endowment gives UO more cushion and margin for error than most but you don't spend money just because you have it.
@swaye true???!??!??! -
Coachella actually means "Greatest Collection of Losers in America at Worst Music Festival Ever where a Nuclear Bomb Detonation Would Improve All Humanity." Loose translation of course.
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Disagree, Corvallis would be a better choice.Swaye said:Coachella actually means "Greatest Collection of Losers in America at Worst Music Festival Ever where a Nuclear Bomb Detonation Would Improve All Humanity." Loose translation of course.
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RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
Disagree, Corvallis would be a better choice.Swaye said:Coachella actually means "Greatest Collection of Losers in America at Worst Music Festival Ever where a Nuclear Bomb Detonation Would Improve All Humanity." Loose translation of course.
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haie said:
There’s so much jack retard in this post it’s amazing.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Yes, you do. You do spend money just because you have it. It's an advantage Knight and Oregon aren't putting to good enough use. Why drop half a billion (allegedly) on some stupid science center when you can drop half a billion on the football program and buy your way to a national championship...AZDuck said:I like to spend other people's money for them. I like to do that. - OBK/doogie
Part of the deal is that Knight doesn't want to put the UO program into a deficit hole they can't climb out of. It's part of the reason the north side of the stadium hasn't been done yet. The new basketball arena was on life support before Altman got the program hopping again.
You can't pay 105,000 seat salaries with a 60,000 seat stadium. The athletics endowment gives UO more cushion and margin for error than most but you don't spend money just because you have it.
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put another way, If Phil Knight cared as much as Oregon fans wished he did, he could park five tenths of one percent of his wealth into about one third of the new Portland School District muni Bond issue and pay $10 million/ year for Real Coach’s salary with the Tax Free Income he’ll be earning Guaranteed by the Full Faith and Credit of the Portland taxpayer.
Wouldn’t cost Knight a fucking dime.
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Or he could just do nothing like he's doing now, be cheap and hire unproven assistants (Helfrich) or assistants with bad head coaching records (Cristobal). It's enough to satisfy low expectation Ducks like ArizonaDuck, NTXDuck, PDXDuck and most of the rest of Quook Nation. Making a bowel game this year was a huge fucking win for these guys.
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You're so much better than all the Duck fans that actually went to UO.oregonblitzkrieg said:Or he could just do nothing like he's doing now, be cheap and hire unproven assistants (Helfrich) or assistants with bad head coaching records (Cristobal). It's enough to satisfy low expectation Ducks like ArizonaDuck, NTXDuck, PDXDuck and most of the rest of Quook Nation. Making a bowel game this year was a huge fucking win for these guys.
You should think about starting your own hobby board. Something catchy like Hardcore Pondcrappers or something like that. -
I don't say this often, but OBK is right and Creeper is off base on this one.
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When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you with a splintered 2x4.dflea said:
You're so much better than all the Duck fans that actually went to UO.oregonblitzkrieg said:Or he could just do nothing like he's doing now, be cheap and hire unproven assistants (Helfrich) or assistants with bad head coaching records (Cristobal). It's enough to satisfy low expectation Ducks like ArizonaDuck, NTXDuck, PDXDuck and most of the rest of Quook Nation. Making a bowel game this year was a huge fucking win for these guys.
You should think about starting your own hobby board. Something catchy like Hardcore Pondcrappers or something like that. -
Which part? That PK just say "no mas" to whatever perceived difference there would be between hiring a Norvell, Tedford, Harsin type? Or breaking the bank to pry Urban Meyer from Ohio State? Or Nick Saban from Alabama?Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I don't say this often, but OBK is right and Creeper is off base on this one.
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You'll need it, Sally.oregonblitzkrieg said:
When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you with a splintered 2x4.dflea said:
You're so much better than all the Duck fans that actually went to UO.oregonblitzkrieg said:Or he could just do nothing like he's doing now, be cheap and hire unproven assistants (Helfrich) or assistants with bad head coaching records (Cristobal). It's enough to satisfy low expectation Ducks like ArizonaDuck, NTXDuck, PDXDuck and most of the rest of Quook Nation. Making a bowel game this year was a huge fucking win for these guys.
You should think about starting your own hobby board. Something catchy like Hardcore Pondcrappers or something like that. -
Right, hobbit. I would stick with the uppercuts if I were you, your only chance to land some punches being as short as you are.dflea said:
You'll need it, Sally.oregonblitzkrieg said:
When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you with a splintered 2x4.dflea said:
You're so much better than all the Duck fans that actually went to UO.oregonblitzkrieg said:Or he could just do nothing like he's doing now, be cheap and hire unproven assistants (Helfrich) or assistants with bad head coaching records (Cristobal). It's enough to satisfy low expectation Ducks like ArizonaDuck, NTXDuck, PDXDuck and most of the rest of Quook Nation. Making a bowel game this year was a huge fucking win for these guys.
You should think about starting your own hobby board. Something catchy like Hardcore Pondcrappers or something like that. -
oregonblitzkrieg said:
Right, hobbit. I would stick with the uppercuts if I were you, your only chance to land some punches being as short as you are.dflea said:
You'll need it, Sally.oregonblitzkrieg said:
When I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you with a splintered 2x4.dflea said:
You're so much better than all the Duck fans that actually went to UO.oregonblitzkrieg said:Or he could just do nothing like he's doing now, be cheap and hire unproven assistants (Helfrich) or assistants with bad head coaching records (Cristobal). It's enough to satisfy low expectation Ducks like ArizonaDuck, NTXDuck, PDXDuck and most of the rest of Quook Nation. Making a bowel game this year was a huge fucking win for these guys.
You should think about starting your own hobby board. Something catchy like Hardcore Pondcrappers or something like that.
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For his single season in Eugene I would give Taggart an A+. That doesn't mean he is a great coach or would have even been very successful over time.LawDawg1 said:
So Taggart was successful?creepycoug said:A couple things, since we all know Creepy is a closet Quook:
If he's successful and leaves, it means he was successful. If not, you have to fire him
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He hired a guy who fixed the defense, the team didn't hate themselves and everyone involved with it, recruiting was elite, and if Herbert stays healthy the chances of winning 9 games are more were very high.
He definitely didn't earn a head gig at Florida State, but he was on track to be exactly what Oregon needed. Frankly I'm still glad we hired him even though he left after 300ish days. -
Mosster47 said:
For his single season in Eugene I would give Taggart an A+. That doesn't mean he is a great coach or would have even been very successful over time.LawDawg1 said:
So Taggart was successful?creepycoug said:A couple things, since we all know Creepy is a closet Quook:
If he's successful and leaves, it means he was successful. If not, you have to fire him
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He hired a guy who fixed the defense, the team didn't hate themselves and everyone involved with it, recruiting was elite, and if Herbert stays healthy the chances of winning 9 games are more were very high.
He definitely didn't earn a head gig at Florida State, but he was on track to be exactly what Oregon needed. Frankly I'm still glad we hired him even though he left after 300ish days.
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Doogie and Salemkewg - two peas in pod.salemcoog said:Mosster47 said:
For his single season in Eugene I would give Taggart an A+. That doesn't mean he is a great coach or would have even been very successful over time.LawDawg1 said:
So Taggart was successful?creepycoug said:A couple things, since we all know Creepy is a closet Quook:
If he's successful and leaves, it means he was successful. If not, you have to fire him
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He hired a guy who fixed the defense, the team didn't hate themselves and everyone involved with it, recruiting was elite, and if Herbert stays healthy the chances of winning 9 games are more were very high.
He definitely didn't earn a head gig at Florida State, but he was on track to be exactly what Oregon needed. Frankly I'm still glad we hired him even though he left after 300ish days.
I'm not sure which one of you should be more embarrassed.
